Are both generation 8 and 9 Intel processor NOT vulnerable to the spectre flaw ?
Ryzen has very low vulnerability right now. No reason not to go with Ryzen.Any idea as to when processors will be available which are designed to not have this vulnerability ? Thanks.
Major flaw in Intel processor that affect consumer grade cpus is only one specific part of Spectre, called Meltdown. Meltdown vulnerable cpu's are that avoidable ones, support to them isn't guaranteed as they are fundamentally broken. 8th gen is still Meltdown-vulnerable, 9th gen, at least 9600, 9700 and 9900 are fixed.
That's a lot of FUD there, imo.
https://www.grc.com/inspectre.htm
Inspectre says my Haswell chips are no longer vulnerable and still have good performance.
The CPUs are not vulnerable any more.They are software-fixed. Software fix is available as long as os-vendors do care about broken Intel cpus.
The flaw is called Meltdown because all hardware-based data separations are flawed, cpu's hardware security is melt away.
The CPUs are not vulnerable any more.
You are just repeating "broken" because you have a grudge against Intel.
It won't help your case any, imo.
The CPUs are not broken now, and they never were.
People found exploits in Intel and AMD processors. Neither one is broken.
Ryzen has very low vulnerability right now. No reason not to go with Ryzen.
I do not see any "totally non-vulnerable" CPUs on the horizon.
err, not quite sure I agree with that. Seems just a bit too much of an Intel fan-comment, let's put it that way. They were and are a serious flaw in Intel's hardware design.and they never were.
Neither one is broken, but Intel does have a lot of hardware flaws, way more than AMD, and way more vulnerabilities.The CPUs are not vulnerable any more.
You are just repeating "broken" because you have a grudge against Intel.
It won't help your case any, imo.
The CPUs are not broken now, and they never were.
People found exploits in Intel and AMD processors. Neither one is broken.
Normal consumer users don't really need the workarounds, though.
It was discussed a lot in the threads about the vulnerabilities.Citation on this one?
Some people don't care. I on the other hand do. I wouldn't want a part with a known design flaw. Others don't mind. To avoid Spectre, your best bet is probably a chip with no HT/SMT. No side channel to attack. As far as the Intel only Meltdown, I'm not up to date enough to know if this has been addressed in Intel's 9 series chips yet.Citation on this one?
It's my understanding, that they can be exploited via JavaScript, in your browser. That doesn't make me feel too certain that home users are somehow "unaffected".It was discussed a lot in the threads about the vulnerabilities.
From what I recall, the "most secure" Intel CPUs against Meltdown and Spectre are Cascade Lake-S and Cascade Lake-AP. Fancy running one of those on your desktop?
Everything else requires more-extensive OS/software/microcode patching (with contingent performance tradeoffs) to protect against such problems.
And yes, running without SMT offers a lot of protection against Spectre.
Coffeelake-r, 9600,9700 and 9900 have exactly same modifications as Cascade-Lakes.