Regardless of insane dual deals, I want to make love to the 45nm quads come July. I imagine nothing Nehalem releases within the first year will even come close to a 3.6ghz 45nm quad in terms of price/performance. Not to mention when it's time for an upgrade it'll make a great secondary rig much longer than any dual will, assuming software devs EVER make multi-core apps more widely spread.
the roadmap makes a lot of sense.
they will eliminate the q6700 to eliminate overlap. same with the q9300 which overlaps with the q6600 right now.
the q9400 i'm assuming is a 2.66 ghz 3mb x 2 cache quad.
so the q6600 will basically be any 65nm quad core they produce since they will still have plenty of lines and fabs not converted to 45nm and extra inventory. they would not mark them 6700 or 6800 because of the overlap, its just a way to get rid of older quads.
the 9300 overlapped with the q6xxx too much so the q9400 puts it just slightly above.
the dual core price cuts are not very large disappointingly. i mean the e8400 price will barely have dropped since inception then again intel doesnt have any competition in duals since amd never released k10 core based duals to even remotely compete. still not too bad a roadmap, if you want a higher end quad it seems liek thats where the huge cuts are (maybe to stymie any chance amd shanghai does well).
they will eliminate the q6700 to eliminate overlap. same with the q9300 which overlaps with the q6600 right now.
the q9400 i'm assuming is a 2.66 ghz 3mb x 2 cache quad.
so the q6600 will basically be any 65nm quad core they produce since they will still have plenty of lines and fabs not converted to 45nm and extra inventory. they would not mark them 6700 or 6800 because of the overlap, its just a way to get rid of older quads.
the 9300 overlapped with the q6xxx too much so the q9400 puts it just slightly above.
the dual core price cuts are not very large disappointingly. i mean the e8400 price will barely have dropped since inception then again intel doesnt have any competition in duals since amd never released k10 core based duals to even remotely compete. still not too bad a roadmap, if you want a higher end quad it seems liek thats where the huge cuts are (maybe to stymie any chance amd shanghai does well).
It doesn't make sense to me that they are getting rid of the brand new Q9450 for a chip with less L2 cache.
It's more like they're replacing the Q9300 with the Q9400, so increasing the multi, and then replacing the Q9450 with the Q9550, also increasing the multi, thus removing overlap and stepping up the 45nm quads multipliers a notch to increase demand.
WT
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I'm so confused ... I have six different Newegg wish list upgrade plans at this point, and I see no end in sight. Last week I thought I had finalized my upgrade, but this damn thread now has me contemplating sticking with my 650 board and going Q6700 instead of the planned 750FTW/9450 combo.
Its a great time to be buying, but its a b@tch trying to determine what is the best upgrade path available to a gamer.
Its a great time to be buying, but its a b@tch trying to determine what is the best upgrade path available to a gamer.
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I personally scrapped every build I was going to upgrade to this year due to every time I would get ready to do something next month was coming out. Now I'm just going to upgrade early next year onto inte'ls next socket 1366 (or whatever it was).
nope thats probably still the best deal if you bought it oem or not. The e8400/q6600 & e7200 especially are killer deals right now. (all faster than the e2140 & oc higher too).
Strictly price/performance e2140 is the winner. The x1950gt in your sig is not a win, IMO. why not pick up a 8800gt/3870/9600gt? or even an x1950pro 256mb at the time would have been a better pick.
BTW, I like all the components in your sig (an obvious value shopper like myself!)
Why would existing chips suddenly overclock better?The reason folks are expecting golden Q6600 is because chips which are currently going into Q6700's will be getting down-binned all the more in order for them to be sold as Q6600's.
I see no rationale to expect Q6700's to suddenly become "better" just because inventory levels are either high or low...there is no "cause and effect" there.
if you look at it that way then those parts are not getting a pricecut...while the Q6600 and Q9550 get pricecuts, the others just get repalced with faster parts at the same price.
Originally posted by: Idontcare
The reason folks are expecting golden Q6600 is because chips which are currently going into Q6700's will be getting down-binned all the more in order for them to be sold as Q6600's.
I see no rationale to expect Q6700's to suddenly become "better" just because inventory levels are either high or low...there is no "cause and effect" there.
Do they make QX6800's anymore? If not, then happy times are ahead......
9300 and 9400 are 6mb. all the "50" ones are 12mb.
my strategy for these things is usually to just buy the cheapest one in a line.
i just bought a e7200 for $130.
i figure when the price cut happens itll drop to say $115 retail box.
so at worst its a $15 cut.
im mean i'd hate to be someone who say had bought a 9550 originally and its now worth $250 less after 3 months.
same reasoning with say a q6600. you buy one today at $200. and in 3 months it might be $170. so not a huge depreciation hit. then in a year buy the chepaest one again instead of buying an expensive one every 2 years.
I think the point here is that since they won't be making any 65nm dekstop quads other than the Q6600 that means happy times as there will be a lot more Q6600's with what would have otherwise been Q6700's and QX6800's.
But it in no way suggests that the EOL Q6700's or QX6800's will suddenly become great overclockers just because.
The Q6600 will be this generation's Celeron 300A.
bryanW1995
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I hope you're right idc! I'll let you know how the current batch is doing once I get my tuniq and q6600 lapped and oc'd
VirtualLarry
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I have two rigs here, both with E2140s @ 3.2Ghz, and one has an X1950GT, and one has an X1950Pro. Both have a 320GB WD SATA HD and 2x2GB Patriot DDR2-800 5-5-5-12. NewEgg had an X1950XTX 512MB card for $100, but they raised the price and sold out.
But with the introduction of the Nehalem, what type of drop in current CPU prices could we expect?
Models which are priced at $316 or greater or anything that ends with 50 so Core 2 Quad Q9450/Q9550/Q9650.
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