Intel Pentium Extreme Edition 955

Pabster

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Click here.

Now the only real question is if the power consumption and heat output can be reduced enough to make use of that unlocked multiplier and actually overclock it!

Of course a new chipset is required for this, 975X.
 

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Of course a new chipset is required for this, 975X.

I'm not surprised. Intel should factor in the cost of a new motherboard everytime they release a new line of processors. If you compare THAT to AMD, it's a wonder anyone even upgrades their Intel processors.
 

exar333

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thats one very annoying thing about Intel...when you upgrade, you have to get a new MB as well...:(
 

Duvie

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Originally posted by: Bona Fide
Of course a new chipset is required for this, 975X.

I'm not surprised. Intel should factor in the cost of a new motherboard everytime they release a new line of processors. If you compare THAT to AMD, it's a wonder anyone even upgrades their Intel processors.



I agree this is getting ridiculous....To many new chipsets, IMO...

This chip is still using netburst architecture (which INtel agrees is the dieing chip) but on the 65nm process...Should have fixed some of the leakage issues so they should run cooler and thus be very nice ocers...The higher FSb at default would make a multiplier adjuster a more welcome things...
 

TomKazansky

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Originally posted by: Pabster
Click here.

Now the only real question is if the power consumption and heat output can be reduced enough to make use of that unlocked multiplier and actually overclock it!

Of course a new chipset is required for this, 975X.

it's about time that intel should come up with a new architechture. It's just steriods pumping into this new beast.

hm, wut is the fx line at? 57? 59?
 

BigCoolJesus

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Originally posted by: Pabster
FX-57 currently and we'll see a FX-59 in the future.

3.0GHz??? :Q


I would pay for that beast, just to overclock it
(of course this is assuming id win the lottery so i would also have Phase Change Cooling)
 

Cooler

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It seems soon intel wont be Mhz king in a year or soo beat at there own game lol.
 

monster64

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Originally posted by: BigCoolJesus
Originally posted by: Pabster
FX-57 currently and we'll see a FX-59 in the future.

3.0GHz??? :Q


I would pay for that beast, just to overclock it
(of course this is assuming id win the lottery so i would also have Phase Change Cooling)


Yeah, I think tom's oced the fx-57 to fx-59 speeds and "simlulated" the performance of the fx-59.
Link
Enjoy.
 

jazzboy

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I agree with one of the above posters. This is just getting stupid - another new chipset requirement. And i thought people were complaining about amd currently changing socket too often.

Anyway i do remember (from that inq article about 45nm leakage fix) that 65nm at least has reduced leakage. And isn't intels roadmap supposed to include a 3.6 ghz presler.
 

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AMD is going to do the same thing with Socket M2. New board and DDR2. I like both AMD and Intel but some people will just put down Intel any chance they get.
 

BigCoolJesus

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Originally posted by: DBZ33
AMD is going to do the same thing with Socket M2. New board and DDR2. I like both AMD and Intel but some people will just put down Intel any chance they get.

We all know that there going to
but what we were trying to point out (which you may have missed) is that Intel builds upon new chipsets more often then AMD (at least enough to get some people angry, plus the M2 is actually a good thing since DDR2 will now be supported by AMD)
 

Pabster

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To be fair, AMD doesn't produce any in-house logic. :D They haven't since the old Athlon MP days.
 

stratman

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It'll be interesting seeing how this thing OCs, it's the first 65nm chip out, right?

Thanks for the link Pabster.
 

Dadofamunky

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Well, it looks like a better unit than anything else in its class from them lately.... but it sure won't make me switch back to Intel.
 

Pabster

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Originally posted by: formulav8
Amd did make a 8000 series chipset for their Opteron cpu's.

You are correct. I'd totally forgotten about AMD's 8000 chipset. I don't believe they've produced anything since, though, correct?




 

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If Intel can get their current leakage fixed, then I think the 65nm netburst parts should run quite a bit cooler.
 

Bona Fide

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Originally posted by: StrangerGuy
If Intel can get their current leakage fixed, then I think the 65nm netburst parts should run quite a bit cooler.

Isn't Netburst the problem to begin with? I'm thinking Conroe will be the only solution to voltage leaks.
 

Topweasel

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Any Coralation to AMD and Intel just between the need for new mobos is vey small. AMD has only did one change worth noting since the A64 came out and that was the change from 754-939 and we are still only 2 speed jumps on 939 ahead of what 754 can get. They Will make a change from 939 to M2 but there is no proof that 939 dies then and that their won't be future upgrades even after the M2 is released. Now within the socket 939 has their been a need to change mobos to go to .09 or to go DC. NO. Intell with this 975 crap will have made their 3rd new chipset that is required for a new processor for Socket T (775). 2 times they have said that even though the pinout is completely the same and is easily backwords compatible with other other Socket T CPUs this new CPU must have this new chipset or higher. It brings into question wether or not you could believe that your Intel machine is even considered upgradeable at all. Socket changes I don't mind stupid restriction within the same socket I do have an issue with.
 

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I'm curious to see the details of their 65nm process. Intel says that they've reduced leakage by a factor of four, but apparentely they're not using SOI.

Intel has also implemented "sleep transistors" in its 65nm SRAM. Sleep transistors shut off the current flow to large blocks of the SRAM when they are not being utilized, which eliminates a significant source of power consumption on a chip. This feature is especially beneficial for battery-powered devices, like laptops.

It sounds like this P4 is going to be able to turn off unused portions of the L2 cache like Dothan can.
 

Pabster

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Originally posted by: Joepublic2
I'm curious to see the details of their 65nm process. Intel says that they've reduced leakage by a factor of four, but apparentely they're not using SOI.

I think the shrink to 65nm alone is enough to drastically reduce leakage.

It sounds like this P4 is going to be able to turn off unused portions of the L2 cache like Dothan can.

But what use will that be for the desktop?