Intel partially transitioning to BGA 2H 2013:

[mikk]

Maybe Intel planning indeed LGA Broadwell, but for Xeon only.

 

[Sheep221]

Maybe Intel planning indeed LGA Broadwell, but for Xeon only.

Xeons for sure won't be BGA, would you like to throw out $1000 CPU because board failed?

 

[ViRGE]

I could be mistaken, but i'm under the impression that some celeron and pentium models will be 4th gen core based - as is indicated on their roadmap. Yes, a large portion of them will be Bay Trail, but for some confusing reason some appear to be core based *shrug*.

Indeed. That's the only thing that makes any sense. The duds have to go somewhere. In fact I'm surprised they're moving Bay Trail into this spot at all, since it reduces the market for the duds. I guess they must do enough business that they're selling too many good chips as Celerons right now.

 

[beginner99]

Indeed. That's the only thing that makes any sense. The duds have to go somewhere. In fact I'm surprised they're moving Bay Trail into this spot at all, since it reduces the market for the duds. I guess they must do enough business that they're selling too many good chips as Celerons right now.

Maybe they expect to have a lot more baytrail duds that are not usable in tablets?

 

[ShintaiDK]

Maybe they expect to have a lot more baytrail duds that are not usable in tablets?

Maybe duds should be replaced by hitting desired TDPs.

 

[beginner99]

It seems to hint that intel may be shuffling a great deal of it's parts toward the enthusiast line of 6/8 core processors beginning with the next generation, and we're seeing intel is planning on releasing Haswell-E for 2014. I just don't know whether the change will be abrupt, gradual, or if they're going to still offer Broadwell in LGA and just aren't telling us. Or maybe i'm missing something, shrug.

Someone said that in another thread but AFAIK it has been said for a year now that on 14 nm atom (airmont) will be the first chip and then probably mobile broadwell. Hence probably not enough capacity. Also since iGPU and power consumption don't matter much on desktop why not just keep it as 22 nm and haswell? IMHO that is not such a dumb idea. Broadwell is a tick only so it will offer a minor improvement and even for SB users it would be a debatable if it was worth and upgrade.

 

[mikk]

Xeons for sure won't be BGA, would you like to throw out $1000 CPU because board failed?

Sure these would be LGA. I see server parts in the driver, that's why I think there might come Broadwell for Xeon.

Someone said that in another thread but AFAIK it has been said for a year now that on 14 nm atom (airmont)

Nope. Intel did not. In best case Airmont will be ready for a late 2014 launch. Broadwell 2C is expected to come earlier than that.