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Intel P4 heatsink?

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YodasBrains

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Getting closer to actually getting to put together my new computer as soon as a backordered gigabyte 8sq800 motherboard arrives. I was browsing various tech sites and people talking about how the heatsinks that come with processors often suck.

Is this the case for the Intels latest processors? I got a 2.4B cpu retail sittin at home. couldnt find anything specific about it. havent opened it yet but now im wondering if i will need to buy a better heatsink. Thanks!
 
The retail heatsink is quite good. Unless you are itching to get every friggin' last half-mhz out of your cpu, then there's no need to replace it. 🙂

Btw, I have a Gigabyte 8SQ800 on the way too. It should be here on Fri or Mon. 🙂
 
The Intel one is fine. Intel is a huge company--with engineers who spend all day just thinking about heatsinks. RR
 
The intel heatsink was loud. (Well, not so much loud as whinny.)

I replaced my hsf as soon as I possibly could.
 
P4 HS? Stock HSF are pretty good. It is so efficient, I have my 7V mod to the fan which now running at 2500rpm.
For? 1.6a@2.4Ghz@1.65V Loud? really? I don't think so..🙂
 
The stock P4 hsf is good, not that loud too and cool enough. Got my 1.6A to 2.6, switching to a PAL8942 with a 46cfm fan only got me 32Mhz more.
 
Whats the normal temp ranges for a P4 between 1.7-2.4B with normal usage & heavy usage? My P4 is heating upto 41C in a few minutes, should I change the fan? Its a generic piece of crap, no name even.
 
P4 HSF are super. Even for overclocking. That's what is super about p4's. Dont even bother to get anything else, your wasting your money to maybe get another 20 or 30mhz.

Lou
 
Originally posted by: Maki
The stock HSF also warps the hell out of the motherboard under it.

Me no like, bad medicine.
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Any P4 heatsink will bow the motherboard a little. Certainly not worthy of "warps the hell out of" status. It doesn't harm the motherboard any, and I don't recall ever hearing a single issue about it.
 
And if you didnt ever notice, motherboards dont break, I mean they really DONT break. You can bend them almost in half and nothing happens. I also remember a story from someone on these forums putting the mobo in the dishwasher? And it continued to work fine after. So the little bit of "warp" you might get is nothing to worry about.
 
The stock fan is variable speed too so it can be pretty darn quite.
 
Originally posted by: Maki
The stock HSF also warps the hell out of the motherboard under it.

Me no like, bad medicine.
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hmmm... I didn't even think about the warp factor. Considering the tension that pulls the heatsink up against the CPU, I was always concerned that those plastic pins holding the heatsink mounting bracket onto the motherboard might get heated up over time and allow the heatsink to move away from the CPU. My fear was confirmed when I had a local customer bring his system in complaining about BSOD syndrome, and sure enough, 1 of the 4 pins had somehow allowed the heatsink bracket to lift away from the motherboard by 1/16" and his heatsink was no longer making uniform contact with the CPU. I remembered the old Socket 423 method of mounting the brackets through the motherboard, directly to the case, so I took the following steps:

1) I pulled those 4 plastic pins out and removed the bracket from the motherboard.
2) I temporarily mounted the motherboard in the case so I could mark the 4 places I needed to have motherboard standoffs.
3) I took the board back out, and went to work with a drill and tap, and installed 4 motherboard standoffs in the 4 corner locations of the heatsink bracket.

Now the bracket is not attached to the motherboard. It is being held in by 4 of the longer mounting screws that go through the motherboard and into the standoffs. I should have taken some pics, but I was in too much of a hurry to see how it would work. I later figured that I could have saved myself some time and effort by just replacing those pins with some 6-32 screws and locknuts, but now that you've mentioned the motherboard warping, I may actually use this method again on future builds.
 
I just bought a P4 2.4 and ASUS P4PE boad (both retail). Things are going great so far but the temp readings for the mobo and the cpu caused me some concerns. The temps were running near 47C (idle) on cpu, after I put a small table fan at the open case side, the temp subsided to about 42C (idle) and 48C load. My room ambient temp is somewhere around 85F (due to 3 comps in my small bedroom).

I have 2 questions:

1) Does the ASUS board read temps higher then normal like some boards? (BH7)

2) I read in another thread someone recommending removing the black thermal substance on the retail HS and putting after-market stuff. I have the black stuff + Arctic Silver. Should I take my HS out, clean the black stuff out, then reapply Arctic Silver?


Thanks for any help you can provide, I'm looking to overclock my machine once I can feel safe about the temp readings.

-Strayen
 
Originally posted by: Strayen
I read in another thread someone recommending removing the black thermal substance on the retail HS and putting after-market stuff. I have the black stuff + Arctic Silver. Should I take my HS out, clean the black stuff out, then reapply Arctic Silver?
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Definitely. You should not be using both.
 
Originally posted by: LouPoir
P4 HSF are super. Even for overclocking. That's what is super about p4's. Dont even bother to get anything else, your wasting your money to maybe get another 20 or 30mhz. Lou
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Originally posted by: Wingznut
Originally posted by: Strayen
I read in another thread someone recommending removing the black thermal substance on the retail HS and putting after-market stuff. I have the black stuff + Arctic Silver. Should I take my HS out, clean the black stuff out, then reapply Arctic Silver?
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Definitely. You should not be using both.
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Using two layers of thermal interface material might actually work as insulation instead of moving the heat away, try removing the pad and AS with isopropyl alcohol until no trace of either is left and then reapply AS.
 
Originally posted by: Maki
The stock HSF also warps the hell out of the motherboard under it.

Me no like, bad medicine.
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That is because board makers choose to be cheap and not provide proper hardware. Most that I've seen only give you 4 plastic push pins to mount the retention bracket. That is not how it is supposed to be done.

The EPoX 4BDA2+ that I had came with a backing plate and 4 screws. The backing plate went on the underside of the mobo which the CPU retention bracket was screwed into in. No Warp, no push pins that could pop out.

 
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