Discussion Intel Nova Lake in H2-2026: Discussion Threads

[adroc_thurston]

check facts before speaking lmao

That's not a real v/f, not under realistic cooling.
Properly instrumented 285k is high 1.4's at 5.7.
AMD's also not correct since they're at 1.38v.

 

[511]

That's not a real v/f, not under realistic cooling.
Properly instrumented 285k is high 1.4's at 5.7.
AMD's also not correct since they're at 1.38v.

There can be variance

 

[adroc_thurston]

There can be variance

It's not variance, the XOC tard is not instrumenting it properly (he physically can't. It's Techinsights and up-tier voodoo).

 

[Momoka_]

Source? that seems low also waiting for this leak to spread on News website only to be re posted again here only than i will believe this.

These are very early leaks and should not be taken as the final IPC uplift.

 

[511]

These are very early leaks and should not be taken as the final IPC uplift.

I was more curious about the IPC of Arctic Wolf

 

[511]

It's not variance, the XOC tard is not instrumenting it properly (he physically can't. It's Techinsights and up-tier voodoo).

You need to test thousands of samples for a good data point 1-2 Sample wouldn't be enough

 

[regen1]

So it's basically everything you need for a HEDT platform except More Ram Channels

In some ways kinda, yeah.
For more memory channels next "-WS" platform(2028 tentatively) looks interesting with "consumer" compute tiles.

 

[511]

In some ways kinda, yeah.
For more memory channels next "-WS" platform(2028 tentatively) looks interesting with "consumer" compute tiles.

That is indeed interesting but why the actual F it has a NPU with more TOPS than PTL

 

[adroc_thurston]

You need to test thousands of samples for a good data point 1-2 Sample wouldn't be enough

Not a 'sample' thing.
He's just not instrumenting v/f properly.

For more memory channels next "-WS" platform(2028 tentatively) looks interesting with "consumer" compute tiles.

gigadeath to SP8

 

[adroc_thurston]

That is indeed interesting but why the actual F it has a NPU with more TOPS than PTL

Aren't they sharing the SOC tile across the lineup?

 

[511]

Aren't they sharing the SOC tile across the lineup?

He meant the 8 Channel WS that is based of consumer CPU tile it has like 6-7 (8+16) Tiles iirc

 

[adroc_thurston]

He meant the 8 Channel WS that is based of consumer CPU tile it has like 6-7 (8+16) Tiles iirc

Ah, NVL-W? yeah.
Idk why it has the blob.

 

[511]

Ah, NVL-W? yeah.
Idk why it has the blob.

RZL-W

 

[adroc_thurston]

RZL-W

is it not Nova anymore? funky platform in any case.

 

[Joe NYC]

It's hard to get moar fmax when you suck and maximum safe voltage does gown 100mV.

Easy choice there:

 

[511]

Easy choice there:

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DLVR exists to not have this issue

 

[adroc_thurston]

Easy choice there

They did that already 2 years ago and the market was less than happy.

 

[inquiss]

Almost nobody needs 52 C with limited membw. Intel is in for a rude awakening if it thinks that halo part will sell buckets.

On the flip side, 4 P + 4 LPE cores is probably not enough in today's market.

The question is, what clocks will Zen 6 hit? If we're talking +10% fmax +8% IPC then overall +20% ST is reasonable. Zen 5 and ARL are basically the same, so Zen 6 should have a 10% or so lead over NVL in ST (assuming NVL fmax is the same as ARL).

Totally agree, and it's obvious. So much chat about SKUs that will be 5% of sales, at best. Limited sales of 24c AMD and 52c Intel. Hardly anyone needs that, if you actually do need throughout you but big boy platforms. The real chat here should be about the single tile Intel SKUs and AMD single ccd chips as that's the upgrade that almost everyone will see.

 

[LightningZ71]

The inflection between the 32MB L3 8 core CCD zen 5 and the 48MB 12 core CCD zen 6 should be impressive. I don't think the X3D parts will show quite the improvement as I'm beginning to think that they're bottlenecking elsewhere in many cases.

 

[DrMrLordX]

We are like 6-9 Months away and we had PTL not reaching 5 Ghz to it being 5.1 so maybe 200-300Mhz more is possible have to see

Intel had to move heaven and Earth just to get 5.1 GHz. And 5.1 GHz was NOT the goal or even close to it, Intel probably wanted at least 5.3 GHz and couldn't get there. Let's not give them too much credit.

Totally agree, and it's obvious. So much chat about SKUs that will be 5% of sales, at best. Limited sales of 24c AMD and 52c Intel. Hardly anyone needs that, if you actually do need throughout you but big boy platforms. The real chat here should be about the single tile Intel SKUs and AMD single ccd chips as that's the upgrade that almost everyone will see.

Enthusiast forums are always obsessed with top-end parts. Look at all the people around here using 9800X3Ds and 9950X3Ds etc. It's a disproportionate number compared to the average even in the DiY space.

 

[511]

Intel had to move heaven and Earth just to get 5.1 GHz. And 5.1 GHz was NOT the goal or even close to it, Intel probably wanted at least 5.3 GHz and couldn't get there. Let's not give them too much credit.

All Intel first node had this issue 22nm/14nm/10nm(it was something else but anyway)/Intel 4

 

[Fjodor2001]

HEDT used to mean more memory channels, which NVL will not offer.

So 52C NVL-S will not be HEDT then (as speculated by some), or what does HEDT mean in practice for NVL-S?

 

[Momoka_]

So 52C NVL-S will not be HEDT then (as speculated by some), or what does HEDT mean in practice for NVL-S?

Jaykihn mentioned on VideoCardz that while NVL-S supports CQDIMM, it only offers larger capacity rather than more memory channels.

 

[inquiss]

Intel had to move heaven and Earth just to get 5.1 GHz. And 5.1 GHz was NOT the goal or even close to it, Intel probably wanted at least 5.3 GHz and couldn't get there. Let's not give them too much credit.



Enthusiast forums are always obsessed with top-end parts. Look at all the people around here using 9800X3Ds and 9950X3Ds etc. It's a disproportionate number compared to the average even in the DiY space.

Oh I get that, it's in my post history. And that's totally fine and all well and good. It's when people talk about what will be relevant or important in the market and forget that they are in a niche that I'm commenting on. There are a lot of 9800X3D in the diy space though. Very good part

 

[inquiss]

So 52C NVL-S will not be HEDT then (as speculated by some), or what does HEDT mean in practice for NVL-S?

More power limits and the need for a non mainstream motherboard to use it, probably