Intel i5 / Socket 1156 Which Cooler won't block memory slots?

blacksizzle

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Looking into building a socket 1156 system with the i7 860 cpu.

I've noticed all the motherboards have the CPU socket very close to the memory slots.

here is a link to the motherboard I'm looking at getting
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... 6813128400

I want to make sure I don't lose use of a memory slot as there are only 4, and I plan on using all 4.

I'd like to go with a zalman if possible

Decided to make this a temporary sticky for all the new LGA1156 people.
Please Addon Which sinks you've used and had no problems, or List how you fixed this problem.

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MadScientist

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Your link or Newegg's is not working. I'm using a Cooler Master Hyper 212 Plus on an Asrock P55 Pro MB. It's fan just clears the first ram slot on this MB.
 

adairusmc

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Originally posted by: MadScientist
Your link or Newegg's is not working. I'm using a Cooler Master Hyper 212 Plus on an Asrock P55 Pro MB. It's fan just clears the first ram slot on this MB.

I have heard good things about that one when researching what cooler I wanted to get for my 860 build.

I ended up going with a Prolimatech Megahalem myself, I sure hope it fits since I already have all 4 slots taken for my RAM, plus the Corsair RAM fan on top of the memory. I needed something after seeing the cores approach 100C on the stock cooler with AS5 applied instead of the intel thermal paste.
 

michael19

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Originally posted by: adairusmc
Originally posted by: MadScientist
Your link or Newegg's is not working. I'm using a Cooler Master Hyper 212 Plus on an Asrock P55 Pro MB. It's fan just clears the first ram slot on this MB.

I have heard good things about that one when researching what cooler I wanted to get for my 860 build.

I ended up going with a Prolimatech Megahalem myself, I sure hope it fits since I already have all 4 slots taken for my RAM, plus the Corsair RAM fan on top of the memory. I needed something after seeing the cores approach 100C on the stock cooler with AS5 applied instead of the intel thermal paste.

if your socket 1156 is approaching 100c with *any* cooler you are doing something very wrong..
 

adairusmc

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Originally posted by: michael19
Originally posted by: adairusmc
Originally posted by: MadScientist
Your link or Newegg's is not working. I'm using a Cooler Master Hyper 212 Plus on an Asrock P55 Pro MB. It's fan just clears the first ram slot on this MB.

I have heard good things about that one when researching what cooler I wanted to get for my 860 build.

I ended up going with a Prolimatech Megahalem myself, I sure hope it fits since I already have all 4 slots taken for my RAM, plus the Corsair RAM fan on top of the memory. I needed something after seeing the cores approach 100C on the stock cooler with AS5 applied instead of the intel thermal paste.

if your socket 1156 is approaching 100c with *any* cooler you are doing something very wrong..

I am not doing nothing wrong, I have reseated it several times. Idle temps are fine though. In the low 40's, high 30's when idle. The stock cooler just sucks.

The mega shadow that is on its way should fix that problem though.
 

aigomorla

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Addon from another thread:

Originally posted by: RussianSensation
System:

CPU: Core i7 860 L926B422
Heatsink + Fan: Prolimatech Megahalems + Scythe S-Flex F 1600 RPM, 64 CFM
Motherboard: GIGABYTE GA-P55-UD3R LGA 1156 Bios F3f
Memory: GSkill Ripjaws F3-12800CL7D-4GBRH
Case: Thermaltake Soprano
^^^ Budget case with 1x120mm intake fan at the front, 1x120mm exhaust case fan in the back, and 92mm fan side intake
Thermal Paste: Arctic Silver 5
Camera: Don't have any picture of my own right now. Will try to get some as soon as I can.

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Installation

So I'll start off with the Most important question everyone has been asking.

(1) Will fitting Prolimatech Megahalems in the Horizontal Heatpipe orientation cause problems with 1x120 25mm fan due to the fan portruding into the 1st Dimm Slot on UD3R or other similar Socket 1156 boards (i.e. the fan blowing towards the back of the case fan)?


Depends on your Ram. The fan will sit right above the 1st DIMM slot. Prolimatech Megahalems by itself has no problems clearing GSkill Ripjaws in the 1st and 2nd DIMM slot (it is tall enough). However, as soon as you put the fan on, the Fan clips portrude into the 2nd DIMM slot and one of them hits the tallest "heatsink tooth" of the Gskill Ripjaws.

You can of course try raising the fan higher but it will reduce the airflow to the bottom of your heatsink. In my case, the fan clip was still touching the Ram heatsink on one side and as a result the Megahalems was NOT making a proper contact with the CPU no matter what I tried. Perhaps, those with more patience can get it to work but...the deal breaker for Horizontal Heatpipe type of installation on UD3R came with the actual installation attempt.

I want to highlight that if it wasn't for just 1 Heatsink Tooth on the Ripjaws, the fan clip would have fit without problems in the horizontal heatpipe orientation.

(2) Can you install Prolimatech Megahalems with Horizontal Heatpipe positioning on 1156 board such as UD3R so that the fan blows towards the case exhaust fan?

Maybe (but someone else should confirm).
I spent 15 minutes trying to fit the cooler in the Horizontal Heatpipe Position as seen in picture #3 on socket 1366 board here.

Then I finally gave up and took out my ruler. After measuring, I realized that in this position The top securing bracket is 2mm-3mm off from ONE of the screw holes. You may think 2mm is not a big amount of space and that I'll just move the bracket .... but regardless of tiny movements, it made it impossible with my board and 1156 Prolimatech kit to fit the cooler in the Horizontal Heatpipe Orientation. Believe me I wanted to fit it this way to exhaust air into my case fan and not into my Power Supply. I conceed that I probably made a mounting error here.

Anyways, I installed the cooler with the fan blowing towards the TOP of the case (i.e. in the Vertical Heatpipe Position like so), since I wanted to see what my performance would be like in the future when I install 8 Gigs of Ram (and this is the only way that fit for me). In other words the screws for the top mounting top bracket fit when I installed my bracket This Way

(3) Does Prolimatech Megahalems clear 1st and 2nd DIMM slots on 1156 boards like UD3R with Gskill Ripjaws when the cooler is mounted in the Vertical Heatpipe Orientation (i.e., the fan blows towards the top of the case)? Will 8GBs of Ram with low to medium sized ram heatsinks fit?

YES to both questions. I was able to fit GSkill Ripjaws in Dimms #1 and #2 without problems. The fan clip ends up right between the 2 Sticks and as I mentioned before the Megahalems heatsink itself has no problems clearing them in Height.

However, anything of height such as Gskill Tridents will NOT fit.


***Note*** I am hoping that perhaps it was my lack of mounting skills, and I hope others disprove my inability to mount the cooler with the fan blowing towards the back of the case on Socket 1156 :)

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Non-overclocked Performance:

Idle - Core i7 860 with power saving technologies = 1200 mhz (133 x 9.0) @ 0.864V
Intel Stock Cooler: 39 / 40 / 39 / 40 *C (Image)
Prolimatech Megahalems: 29 / 29 / 31 / 30 *C (Image)
*Notice my hard drive and GPU temperatures did not change so the case airflow is the same.

Load - Seti@Home (8 threads) - Core i7 860 = 2931 (133 x 22) @ 1.152V
Intel Stock Cooler: 78 / 80 / 76 / 80 *C (Image)
Prolimatech: 50 / 49 / 49 / 51 *C (Image)

Load - Prime 95 (Small FFTs) - Core i7 860 = 2931 (133 x 22) @ 1.136-1.152V
Intel Stock Cooler: 83 / 84 / 82 / 84 *C (Image)
Prolimatech: 54 / 54 / 54 / 55 *C (Image)

Non-overclocked Conclusion: On Average Prolimatech beat the Intel Stock cooler ~ 9.75*C at idle and ~ 29*C at load.

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Overclocked Performance:

Settings:

PCH - Auto
PLL - 1.800V (stock)
VTT (Internal Memory Controller) - Auto (will find lowest setting at the end)
Load Line Calibration: Enabled
QPI Ratio 32x
CPU Multiplier 21x
CPU Vcore - start 1.26875 in BIOS (bumps updated below, where applicable)
DDR3 - 1.650V start (bumps updated below, where applicable)

All Vcore was measured from CPU-Z.

Intel Stock Cooler: Lost by default (no point when getting 84 *C at 2.93ghz)

Prolimatech Megahalems:

3.15ghz => BCLK 150, idle Vcore 1.248V, Prime95 100% load Vcore 1.280V @ 60-62*C
3.36ghz => BCLK 160, idle Vcore 1.248V, Prime95 100% load Vcore 1.280V @ 64-66*C
3.57ghz => BCLK 170, idle Vcore 1.248V, Prime95 100% load Vcore 1.280V @ 64-66*C (FAIL)
--- Updated VCore to 1.2750V in BIOS ---
3.57ghz => BCLK 170, idle Vcore 1.2640V, Prime95 100% load Vcore 1.280V @ 67-70*C
3.78ghz => BCLK 180, idle Vcore 1.2640V, Prime95 100% load Vcore 1.280V @ 69-73*C
--- Lowered DDR3 Voltage to 1.60V from 1.65V without changing speed or timings ---
3.88ghz => BCLK 185, idle Vcore 1.2640V, Prime95 100% load Vcore 1.280V @ 74-75*C
--- Lowered DDR3 Voltage to 1.58V from 1.60V without changing speed or timings ---
3.99ghz => BCLK 190, idle Vcore 1.2640V, Prime95 100% load Vcore 1.280-1.296V @ 76-77*C

So far passed 7 minutes, which is nothing but getting a feel for temperatures. Will obviously test Prime 95 for much longer.

My current standing after 1 hour 20 min of Small FFTs: 3.99ghz @ 79 / 80 / 76 / 80*C 1.296V

Getting Prime95 stable above this frequency needs more than 1.31875V on Vcore which takes my temperatures to 83-84*C. I don't want to run my system 24/7 under these conditions so I am limiting my overclock to 80*C.

 

dmw16

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Interesting. So it sounds like if the heatsink is installed such that the fans mount top and bottom there will be sufficient clearance. Am I reading that correctly?
 

aigomorla

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Originally posted by: Jumpem
Has anyone heard about the Zalman CNPS10X Quiet in regards to this?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/...x?Item=N82E16835118052

Seems like it would work depending on orientation.

Zalman is not really considered the top dogs anymore.

But it looks like a standard tower sink so it looks like it would fall into the same issues as everyone else is describing.

However i saw another picture recently of a noctuna sink, which is similar with push/pull fans that worked.

If i had to chose, id probably get the noctuna over the zalman.
 

Jumpem

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Originally posted by: aigomorla
Zalman is not really considered the top dogs anymore.

But it looks like a standard tower sink so it looks like it would fall into the same issues as everyone else is describing.

However i saw another picture recently of a noctuna sink, which is similar with push/pull fans that worked.

If i had to chose, id probably get the noctuna over the zalman.

I don't plan to be overclocking. I just want something relatively quiet, and that will cool better than the stock cooler.
 

brentpas

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Was asked to post this.

Noctua NH-U12P SE2 cooler

System Specs
Cooler Master HAF 932
Asus Maximus III Formula (1156)
Intel Core i7 860
G.Skill Trident DDR3 2000Mhz 8gb total (4 sticks)
Corsair HX850W PSU
EVGA 8800GTX

Here are some pictures

Before with only 1 fan

http://i562.photobucket.com/al...mputer%20Build/055.jpg

Showing the offset of the fans

http://i562.photobucket.com/al...mputer%20Build/076.jpg

http://i562.photobucket.com/al...mputer%20Build/077.jpg

http://i562.photobucket.com/al...mputer%20Build/080.jpg

http://i562.photobucket.com/al...mputer%20Build/081.jpg

http://i562.photobucket.com/al...mputer%20Build/082.jpg

http://i562.photobucket.com/al...mputer%20Build/083.jpg

And some temps at STOCK speed (very frustrating)

Full Load Case Closed
http://i562.photobucket.com/al...FullLoadCaseClosed.jpg

Full Load Case Open
http://i562.photobucket.com/al...d/FullLoadCaseOpen.jpg

Idle Case Closed
http://i562.photobucket.com/al...ild/IdleCaseClosed.jpg

Idle Case Opened
http://i562.photobucket.com/al...Build/IdleCaseOpen.jpg



 

adairusmc

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Since Aigo is collecting data, here is my experience with a Prolimatech Mega Shadow and my 1156 i7 860 build.

Full specs -

Core i7 860
Asus Maximus III Formula
Prolimatech Mega Shadow with two Thermalright TR-FDB-12-1600 fans (Push/Pull config)
8Gb Corsair Dominator-GT (CMG4GX3M2A1600C7)
PC P&C Silencer 750 PSU
Visiontek 4870X2
3x SATA Hard Drives
2x SATA Optical Drives
Antec 900-Two case

I had some trouble installing the Mega Shadow with the Dominator memory because of how tall it is (not considering the optional fan unit that comes with it).

After taking the top sinks off of the first two sticks of RAM, and modifying how the fan on that side attached to the heatsink, everything is mounted and working great now. I think that with low profile DDR3 the Megahalem/Megashadow will mount with even less trouble.

Some pictures -

Heatsink not mounted, just sitting on CPU with fan attached. - The heatsink would not even sit flat on the CPU without mounting hardware, it was sideways due to the fan and fan clip.

Heatsink Mounted with no fan, showing the distance from the bare heatsink to the memory banks.

RAMsinks removed from the top of the first two sticks of memory.

Clip over the top of the heatpipes to hold the first fan on. - I still had to mount the fan about 1/4 higher than it would normally sit so it would not make contact with the memory. I did this by taking one of the fan clips and attaching it over the top of the heatpipes. It stays there remarkably well, I thought I was going to have to use a dab of superglue to hold it in place or something, but I did not.

Zip tie holding the fan onto the heatsink on the bottom. - just one zip tie on one side is holding the fan on, and now it is not going anywhere.

Everything installed in the case.

I was seeing terrible temps with the stock intel cooler, which prompted me to order the Mega Shadow. I did take some before/after screenshots to compare the stock cooler to the mega shadow.

stock intel cooler, idle - computer had been running for about 20 minutes or so

stock intel cooler, load, after only a minute of Prime95 small FFT.

Keep in mind that was after re-seating the stock intel cooler several times, and trying different thermal paste other than the stuff they put on the stock coolers. This was at the stock speed, everything in the BIOS pretty much set to auto, turbo on.

Here is the results after installing the megahalem -

Mega Shadow, idle

Mega Shadow, load with 1min of Prime95 (just to keep it consistent with the stock cooler screenshot)

Much better with the Mega Shadow. I let it run for about 30 min more to see if it would get much higher, and the highest it got at the stock speed was 56,55,55,55 across the cores.

And here is a screenshot I took earlier this evening, with an overclock I am testing. I have already tested the system to 3.53Ghz 24h prime stable, with turbo on, speedstep on, and default voltage.

With the same settings, I am going for 3684 with default voltage, so far so good, hopefully it stays that way for 24h.

OC to 3684, about an hour into Prime95 SmallFFT testing for stability. Not bad temps really.

 

MyLeftNut

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Originally posted by: Jumpem
Has anyone heard about the Zalman CNPS10X Quiet in regards to this?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/...x?Item=N82E16835118052

Seems like it would work depending on orientation.

The Zalman CNPS10X series actually performs just as good or just slightly edges out a TRUE and Megahalems. Only problem with the Zalman is you need to make sure the mounting tension is high enough as the mounting system is horrible. As well, going push+pull requires some improvising as it was only designed for 1 fan. Since it sells for around the same price as a Megahalems or TRUE, anyone in their right mind would go for something with better mounting.
 

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RussianSensation

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You guys should realize that it is going to be very hard to get a Core i7 to 4.0ghz+ on anything other than the TRUE, Megahalems or Scythe Mugen 2.

Also Medicius if you are going for a S775 cooler, get a Xigmatek 1283 since it will be better than the Tuniq Tower and cost less $$. The Dark Knight has a good mounting system and costs the same as the Tuniq Tower you linked.

Zalman CNPS10x is an excellent cooler but the Extreme edition is significantly larger in dissapting area vs. the Quiet edition.
 

PClark99

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Coolermaster Hyper 212+

Can mount all 4 sticks on my Gigabyte P55M UD4 as long as the HSF is oriented drawing air from over the RAM slots.

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