Intel have been secretly building Sandy Bridge CPUs as high as June 2015 manufactured date...

[Burpo]

Ascendtech has bare H67 boards for $23, shipped..

http://www.ascendtech.us/lenovo-ibm-k330a-11200001-motherboard_i_mbdslen11200001.aspx#

 

[waltchan]

Because Intel CPUs are depreciating so fast after 4 years or so, my eBay buyers are finding any excuse they can to get their refund, even if its only 1 business day away. One of my buyers bought my i3-2130 on Friday, and today on Monday, he messages me if he can cancel his order since it hasn't been shipped out yet. Hello, it's the weekend.

It's more of, "man, I should have waited a few seconds longer when I could have goten it for $5 cheaper." Selling used Intel processors is always a risk for me as there have been a lot of buyer's remorse I've seen due to the depreciating prices.

I expect Kaby Lake delivering the same results after 2021 or so, and i3-7200 mysteriously costs less than FX-4300.

 

[bigboxes]

You don't buy CPUs as an investment. This is not fine wine. They don't go up in value just by sitting on them longer. You buy CPUs to use them. Now, if you bid on a lot of old PCs and are parting out then you take what you can get because profit is depends on selling X amount to recoup your initial cost. The rest is profit. But just buying CPUs and sitting on them hoping to make money in the future is ludicrous. So is complaining about economics on the internet.

 

[waltchan]

There's only one lucky Intel processor that has gone up in price lately, Pentium G3258, as the new in boxes are getting hard to find now. I have 2 NIBs to sell soon, maybe $99.99 each. Almost there...

Is Skylake still around, or Kaby Lake dominating the scene? I hardly and barely know that Skylake exists, and it wants to depreciate now.

 

[MrTeal]

Just shave the little nick off with a box knife, and then touch up with sandpaper. Chances are that chip is fine, though you might need match it with a cosmetically damaged motherboard to keep your artistic theme consistent.

 

[LTC8K6]

They really are still making new Sandy Bridge chips, apparently.

https://semiaccurate.com/2017/04/24/intel-brief-press-sandy-ex-may-2/

 

[waltchan]

They really are still making new Sandy Bridge chips, apparently.

https://semiaccurate.com/2017/04/24/intel-brief-press-sandy-ex-may-2/

While the article mentions the "E" version, the current LGA1155 CPUs still remain in production are Celeron G540, Pentium G850, i3-2120, i5-2400, and i7-2600. There are no Ivy Bridges chips in POS systems, so it was skipped in briefing.

 

[LTC8K6]

While the article mentions the "E" version, the current LGA1155 CPUs still remain in production are Celeron G540, Pentium G850, i3-2120, i5-2400, and i7-2600. There are no Ivy Bridges chips in POS systems, so it was skipped in briefing.

Lighten up, Walt.

 

[PhlashFoto]

I fear to see the Celeron G540 and Pentium G850 will remain in "launched" status up to 2020 (when Windows 7 ends all support), and by then, they all depreciate down to less than $5 shipped each on eBay, including new ones made in 2019. By 2020, I'm figuring out how many generations behind from Sandy Bridge I'll be with 2019 G850, and I'll tell people my processor is only 1 year old.

Nice fabrication, but I've never resold any computers in my life so far, actually (last used computer I sold was in 2008). I keep everything and then donate to recycling center later if zero value is reached. I have lots of LGA775 Allendales I don't need anymore.

Go enjoy your new Kaby Lake, don't worry about me.

Because Intel CPUs are depreciating so fast after 4 years or so, my eBay buyers are finding any excuse they can to get their refund, even if its only 1 business day away. One of my buyers bought my i3-2130 on Friday, and today on Monday, he messages me if he can cancel his order since it hasn't been shipped out yet. Hello, it's the weekend.

It's more of, "man, I should have waited a few seconds longer when I could have goten it for $5 cheaper." Selling used Intel processors is always a risk for me as there have been a lot of buyer's remorse I've seen due to the depreciating prices.

I expect Kaby Lake delivering the same results after 2021 or so, and i3-7200 mysteriously costs less than FX-4300.

So, I have been following this thread for weeks. So many things to say.

You are very much full of it and borderline conman. Then you blame buyers for wanting their money back, and you blame "intel"? Or call their normal production and inventory system a "secret"? You are beyond delusional, and you are extremely unrealistic. Then you talk about deprecation.

Waltchan, you have no idea how the world works, nor do you understand terms you throw around. What is crazy, is how you try to make us to be in the wrong. That part is fairly amusing. But, you shouldn't selling old tech as new.

What's next; build a slingshot and sell it as "new" 2017 tech?

 

[waltchan]

I understand people here have been criticizing against me for not buying the latest and greatest stuff to please people. This is not how my business work if I'm forced to buy only Kaby Lake stuff. I do wish that people here to not remind me many times not to go for older stuff, I know.

 

[waltchan]

Then you blame buyers for wanting their money back, and you blame "intel"?

It's called "panic selling," similar to a stock market crash. I have to unload all my high-end Sandy Bridge CPUs at today's market price, and buy them back later when they bottomed out at $5 each price. I'll repeat my same method with Skylake 5 years later.

 

[frozentundra123456]

I understand people here have been criticizing against me for not buying the latest and greatest stuff to please people. This is not how my business work if I'm forced to buy only Kaby Lake stuff. I do wish that people here to not remind me many times not to go for older stuff, I know.

You can buy whatever you want for yourself. Nobody really cares. It is your buying and reselling practices that invite criticism, as they seem borderline (at best) shady. Of course nobody really knows because your threads are so confusing that nobody really knows what you are doing.

 

[bigboxes]

"I want a $5 CPU!" said no one ever!

 

[waltchan]

Just scored a NIB ASRock B75M-Pro3-M board. Shopping for a NIB LGA1155 board on eBay is 5 times more busier than at Micro Center, I'll say, people have been refreshing their screens and buying one like mad. I've never seen anything like this before. I refuse to let the winning bid end at $150 too easily according to previously sold listings, or a first person place its bid, so I did a buy it now for $84 total.

But still, I get high in my emotion every time with any price increase and unpredictable winning bid, as the LGA1155 motherboard supply will always be scarce. Remember the 2008 recession, because of that, there were actually fewer LGA1155 boards produced than LGA1150. Nobody believes me at all that motherboards do appreciate in value while CPU goes down in value, so I'll keep all my experience story to myself.

 

[MrTeal]

Just scored a NIB ASRock B75M-Pro3-M board. Shopping for a NIB LGA1155 board on eBay is 5 times more busier than at Micro Center, I'll say, people have been refreshing their screens and buying one like mad. I've never seen anything like this before. I refuse to let the winning bid end at $150 too easily according to previously sold listings, or a first person place its bid, so I did a buy it now for $84 total.

But still, I get high in my emotion every time with any price increase and unpredictable winning bid, as the LGA1155 motherboard supply will always be scarce. Remember the 2008 recession, because of that, there were actually fewer LGA1155 boards produced than LGA1150. Nobody believes me at all that motherboards do appreciate in value while CPU goes down in value, so I'll keep all my experience story to myself.

This I don't get. You're buying an $85 5-year old motherboard to pair with a $5 Sandy Bridge Pentium. You're $90 in for an aged platform and used components. Meanwhile, you could buy a new with warranty B150 uATX board for $40AR, and a Kabylake-S G4560 for $60. Yes that's ~10% more money, but you not only get new parts with warranty, but you also get a 5-600MHz speed bump, all the architectural advances since Sandy Bridge, a wildly better iGPU, and hyperthreading.

BTW - Sandy Bridge was released in 2011. It'd be a stretch to say LGA1155 was produced in fewer numbers because of the 2008 recession.

 

[coercitiv]

This I don't get. You're buying an $85 5-year old motherboard to pair with a $5 Sandy Bridge Pentium. You're $90 in for an aged platform and used components. Meanwhile, you could buy a new with warranty B150 uATX board for $40AR, and a Kabylake-S G4560 for $60. Yes that's ~10% more money, but you not only get new parts with warranty, but you also get a 5-600MHz speed bump, all the architectural advances since Sandy Bridge, a wildly better iGPU, and hyperthreading.

Just wait a few more years, he'll spend $85 on a B150 board as well.

 

[XavierMace]

I feel like waltchan is TridenT's alter ego.

 

[waltchan]

This I don't get. You're buying an $85 5-year old motherboard to pair with a $5 Sandy Bridge Pentium. You're $90 in for an aged platform and used components. Meanwhile, you could buy a new with warranty B150 uATX board for $40AR, and a Kabylake-S G4560 for $60. Yes that's ~10% more money, but you not only get new parts with warranty, but you also get a 5-600MHz speed bump, all the architectural advances since Sandy Bridge, a wildly better iGPU, and hyperthreading.

BTW - Sandy Bridge was released in 2011. It'd be a stretch to say LGA1155 was produced in fewer numbers because of the 2008 recession.

This board is currently valued at $150 for the next 3 years new-in-box (I may not use it if I can't find a 2018 i3-2120), and then it drops again when LGA1150 is ready to go down to $5 CPU next. I do store some NIB boards unused on rare occasion if they look like investment to me, and this one fits well definitely.

Unemployment rate was 13% in Los Angeles County back in 2011. Micro Center and Fry's Electronics used to be less-busy and people bought less. Now it's 6% today.

 

[XavierMace]

You truly have a dizzying intellect.

 

[waltchan]

You truly have a dizzying intellect.

But not on AMD, I'm way more laid back. Purchase some FX-4300s from time to time. I'm more stricter with Intel now, and I try to buy the older ones as much as possible.

 

[MrTeal]

BTW - Sandy Bridge was released in 2011. It'd be a stretch to say LGA1155 was produced in fewer numbers because of the 2008 recession.

Unemployment rate was 13% in Los Angeles County back in 2011. Micro Center and Fry's Electronics used to be less-busy and people bought less. Now it's 6% today.

Are you really claiming that less LGA1150 (starting Q2'13) boards were sold than LGA1155 based on California's unemployment rate comparing 2011 and 2017, and your personal experience with how busy Microcenter feels?

That contradicts pretty much most data on PC yearly PC sales that show total units continually dropping since a peak in 2011 (LGA1155 launched Jan 2011).

 

[waltchan]

The previous model of i3-4370, i3-3245, crashed down and depreciated from $129.99 retail to $41 in just 2.5 years, and it expects to reach $25 next year. I'm saving my NIB ASRock B75 for a i3-3245 for $10. Almost there... Time will tell...

 

[Valantar]

The previous model of i3-4370, i3-3245, crashed down and depreciated from $129.99 retail to $41 in just 2.5 years, and it expects to reach $25 next year. I'm saving my NIB ASRock B75 for a i3-3245 for $10. Almost there... Time will tell...

Well, yes. It was replaced by newer model with a faster architecture, higher clocks, better efficiency, a far better iGPU, a platform with more features, and so on. Is that in any way surprising? That's how technological advancement works: what's worth $100 in 2011 shouldn't under any circumstance be worth $100 in 2017, as that would imply technological stagnation. While scarcity of replacement parts does some times drive prices up, that's another situation entirely. The reason why AMD chips have held their value better is also in the same ball park: there hasn't been significant improvement per generation, at least not compared to the competition. This all changed with Ryzen, of course, and I'd expect older APU prices to plummet once Raven Ridge is launched.

Oh, and your stance of "saving" a motherboard as "new in box": what's the point? What value does a motherboard have if it isn't used or you have no use for it? I would argue none at all. For now, you're out $84 that you're not getting back, nor getting any value at all from.

Amd as everyone keeps saying: you can get a $40 H110 board and a $60 Pentium G4560, and you'd have a system that would beat your dream Sandy Bridge i3 in pretty much every measure, not to mention have far more modern connectivity, all for $10 more. Why not?

 

[VirtualLarry]

as everyone keeps saying: you can get a $40 H110 board and a $60 Pentium G4560, and you'd have a system that would beat your dream Sandy Bridge i3 in pretty much every measure

This, entirely. The new budget hotness is definitely the G4560, with a cheap B150/B250 board. (Or do they have any H110 boards with four DIMM slots?)

Edit: Someone else on these boards commented that it performs much like an i5-2500K at stock speeds, which is nothing to sneeze at. It's good for 1080P gaming, for most modern games too.

 

[waltchan]

For now, you're out $84 that you're not getting back, nor getting any value at all from.

That's absolutely not true at all. Don't make me provide eBay proof if I decide to resell it for $169.99 shipped, and it will still sell. $84 means $79.99 plus tax, and this is the same price selling with new ASRock B250M-Pro4-M board. I'm not losing at all.

I also notice LGA-1151 boards have been more expensive to buy at launch during 2016 than LGA-1150 back in 2013 when we're still digesting from 2008 recession. TigerDirect (now defunct) used to give some FREE LGA1150 boards with CPU purchase after rebate.