News Intel GPUs - Battlemage officially announced, evidently not cancelled

[DavidC1]

Jensen would love to kill ARC. He probably hates that Intel got even this close to threatening his dominance in GPUs.

Intel never had the execution ability of Nvidia during their best days. Direct competition with Nvidia would have failed anyway.

 

[511]

Intel never had the execution ability of Nvidia during their best days. Direct competition with Nvidia would have failed anyway.

Agree to disagree During Moore Noyce and grove they had that ability also with craig as well it's just after MBA Took on its a disaster

 

[Mopetar]

Maybe everyone just needs to wait for JHH to retire and an MBA to take the helm at Nvidia.

 

[DZero]

This should be irrelevant if their claims are proven to be true.


If Nvidia offers a better product with better margins, then the competition should still be able to offer competing products at a lower price. And Nvidia is known for engaging in practices that attempt to stop this dynamic.

Remember AMD? was superior to Intel, but yet Intel has the advantage.
nVIDIA will suffer the same fate.

Is about margins.

The only way is that nVIDIA with Mediatek takes over first the low tier market and then the mid tier one.

PS: Intel deserves their own forum. Is already relevant. And in this pace Qualcomm might get a spot too.

 

[511]

Remember AMD? was superior to Intel, but yet Intel has the advantage.
nVIDIA will suffer the same fate.

Is about margins.

The only way is that nVIDIA with Mediatek takes over first the low tier market and then the mid tier one.

Lol why do you think they are betting big on fabs if they succeed at comparable PPA to TSMC every compititor is going to have an issue cause they can drive low end margin products out of market

 

[DeathReborn]

Maybe everyone just needs to wait for JHH to retire and an MBA to take the helm at Nvidia.

Raja Koduri to complete the set?

 

[gaav87]

Ashes of singularity - Lunar lake 140V Intel(R) Core(TM) Ultra 7 258V
Z1 for comparison. Cpu framerate seem to be almost 2x vs 8core/16thread z1 extreeme

GPU Benchmark - Ashes of the Singularity

Video Card GPU Benchmarks, High quality testing of your video card and gaming system.

www.ashesofthesingularity.com

 

[gaav87]

Same speed as AMD z1 extreme while having 2.5x higher resolution.

 

[DZero]

Damn, Intel pulled BIG this time. And I feel that the nVIDIA GTX XX50 tier for laptop is about to not to be useful anymore. Intel and AMD caugh up with it.

 

[Hitman928]

Same speed as AMD z1 extreme while having 2.5x higher resolution.

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Those database results are all over the place. I don't think I can draw any conclusions from these random submissions. Here are some Z1 Extreme results at near the same resolution as the Intel results.

 

[gaav87]

Those database results are all over the place. I don't think I can draw any conclusions from these random submissions. Here are some Z1 Extreme results at near the same resolution as the Intel results.

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You showed DX11 results. Not apples to apples. DX11 gives different score results.

 

[Saylick]

Maybe everyone just needs to wait for JHH to retire and an MBA to take the helm at Nvidia.

Ha, that's assuming JHH's master plan of uploading his consciousness to Nvidia's in-house supercomputer cluster so that he can run Nvidia in perpetuity doesn't come to fruition sooner.

 

[gaav87]

Damn, Intel pulled BIG this time. And I feel that the nVIDIA GTX XX50 tier for laptop is about to not to be useful anymore. Intel and AMD caugh up with it.

its around desktop gtx1050ti gtx1060 so still room for improvement.

 

[gaav87]

Anyone can share info ? Are this alchemist refresh (acm -r)
soc1 sku2 is unreleased G21 alchemist+ (im quite sure)
Why would they pop out of a sudden with r&d tag ?

 

[Hitman928]

You showed DX11 results. Not apples to apples. DX11 gives different score results.

Fair enough, though I don't think it's going to give that much of a different score. However, the main point was the range of scores. Even if I use DX12, it's the same thing. The top Z1 Extreme score is 2x the score you showed. What am I supposed to make of these comparisons when there is a +- 50% spread in the results?

 

[511]

Only 10 days for embargo but looks kind of promising we will know soon how capable is Xe2 and it will finally answer Arc Xe1 had made poor HW choices or not

 

[DZero]

its around desktop gtx1050ti gtx1060 so still room for improvement.

Yeah, but it renders any XX50 option in danger for nVIDIA. they won't see useful in x86 processors. Maybe they will integrate it on Mediatek processors.

 

[gaav87]

Fair enough, though I don't think it's going to give that much of a different score. However, the main point was the range of scores. Even if I use DX12, it's the same thing. The top Z1 Extreme score is 2x the score you showed. What am I supposed to make of these comparisons when there is a +- 50% spread in the results?

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The 7000 score is clearly with external gpu as laptop 4060 score around 8k and laptop 4070 around ~10k

780m vs 4070

 

[Hitman928]

The 7000 score is clearly with external gpu as laptop 4060 score around 8k and laptop 4070 around ~10k

780m vs 4070
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OK, so the LNL example was with a dGPU as well then.

 

[gaav87]

I asked, a friend to test A770 with same settings as this two xe2 gpus. If its the 20xe2 gpu Intel dx11 gains are big.

OK, so the LNL example was with a dGPU as well then.

This is with external gpu

 

[Hitman928]

I asked, a friend to test A770 with same settings as this two xe2 gpus. If its the 20xe2 gpu Intel dx11 gains are big.
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This is with external gpu
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That's with an external GPU and at a different resolution. There's lots of different dGPUs that could be used.

 

[DZero]

So, Intel GPU are now pretty competent? Heck, just make a sub forum since I want to know which laptops uses Intel dGPU.

 

[511]

So, Intel GPU are now pretty competent? Heck, just make a sub forum since I want to know which laptops uses Intel dGPU.

Only the upcoming battlemage architecture and forward they were good for some productivity scenarios like davinci and stuff

 

[Hans Gruber]

What is the consensus for Battlemage performance for their top GPU? Are we talking 4070 performance with 16GB of vram?

 

[511]

AFAIK somewhere between those lines yes