Intel going to ship quade core before year end!

[cmdrdredd]

Originally posted by: AdamK47 3DS
I'm a gamer, so I wonder if there are any games that would benifit from two dual cores sandwiched together.

No, a Conroe chip now will likely be the best performing CPU for a gamer for the pricepoint. It's likely that Quad Core CPUs will be much more expensive than dual core and as has been said already, offer no benefit for a gamer.

 

[NoStateofMind]

Originally posted by: zsdersw

The way the cores interact is important.

Yes it is "Quad Core" and "Dual core". BUT! It will not be nearly as efficient as K8L, being that it is 4 cores on one silicon, instead of 2 dual cores "stapled" together. Pentium D anyone?

Those issues are irrelevant to the point I was making and the original statement by AnandThenMan. Relative inefficiency doesn't make Kentsfield any less of a "quad-core" chip than the quad-core K8L.. or the Smithfield/Presler any less of a "dual-core" chip than dual-core chips from AMD.

Discuss all you want about the relative inefficiency of Kentsfield and Smithfield/Presler.. but don't say they're not quad-core and dual-core chips, respectively.

So what's your point? I stated THEY WERE dual and quad cores. In other words I agreed with you. I then stated that the performance would not be the same if it were 4 cores integrated together other than "stapled". Meaning that part was a whole other subject.

Shoosh!

 

[zsdersw]

But that's just using a single term for different types of multi-core design...

So what? The terminology is accurate, regardless of the multi-core design type.

I tend to call the 2C MCMs "twin core" rather than dual core (which I reserve for multicores that are interconnected directly), and designs like Kentsfield would be a twin dual core...
The reason for the distinction is that there is a measurable difference in performance between the two.

You call them what you want. When all or most people do the same, then you'll have something.

 

[cmdrdredd]

Originally posted by: PC Surgeon
Yes it is "Quad Core" and "Dual core". BUT! It will not be nearly as efficient as K8L, being that it is 4 cores on one silicon, instead of 2 dual cores "stapled" together. Pentium D anyone?

until it's released in retail channels there's no telling. It's more or less just marketing and getting the jump right now.

 

[zsdersw]

I then stated that the performance would not be the same if it were 4 cores integrated together other than "stapled". Meaning that part was a whole other subject.

There was a very pronounced "BUT!" in between.. suggesting that the latter subject had some sort of relevance to the first (which it doesn't).

 

[xtknight]

There's definitely cases where some multithreaded software will not use more than 2 threads. multi- means two or more, and lots of software is still probably two at this point. More advanced software can spawn n threads.

 

[NoStateofMind]

Originally posted by: zsdersw

I then stated that the performance would not be the same if it were 4 cores integrated together other than "stapled". Meaning that part was a whole other subject.

There was a very pronounced "BUT!" in between.. suggesting that the latter subject had some sort of relevance to the first (which it doesn't).

"BUT!" or not, it's still two different subjects rofl! 😀

 

[Viditor]

Originally posted by: zsdersw

But that's just using a single term for different types of multi-core design...

So what? The terminology is accurate, regardless of the multi-core design type.

I tend to call the 2C MCMs "twin core" rather than dual core (which I reserve for multicores that are interconnected directly), and designs like Kentsfield would be a twin dual core...
The reason for the distinction is that there is a measurable difference in performance between the two.

You call them what you want. When all or most people do the same, then you'll have something.

Or you could devolve even farther and just call them hunks of silicon with funny names...
The terminology is accurate only if you are the only one doing the defining. What matters is calling them something that is actually representative of their design...this is the point I was making.

 

[SparkyJJO]

meh, $1K for a CPU? No thanks.

 

[cmdrdredd]

Originally posted by: SparkyJJO
meh, $1K for a CPU? No thanks.

Heh well, I dunno if it'll be that much but there would be no real value to it for me.

 

[BrownTown]

Originally posted by: kmtyb
Kentsfield Runs hot but if I open more than few client in Windows, i clearly see the advantage of Kentsfield. Oh if you do any media processing, it ROCKS!!!! For games I can't tell the diff. between Kentsfield and C2D.

Intel will launch Core 3 Duo and Core 3 Quad later part of next year and the Quad will be a true Quad core.

They really gonna call the 45nm parts Core 3, I would think just make it a newer Core 2 revisions and Save Core 3 for the Nehlem parts.

 

[Markfw]

What's really amazing is how many people can't seem to spell quad.............

 

[FelixDeCat]

Intel processors are better than AMD, hands down.

 

[zsdersw]

Originally posted by: Viditor
Or you could devolve even farther and just call them hunks of silicon with funny names...
The terminology is accurate only if you are the only one doing the defining. What matters is calling them something that is actually representative of their design...this is the point I was making.

So this is a question of evolving or devolving? That's ridiculous.

The general terms are "dual-core" and "quad-core".. which means 2 cores in one package and 4 cores in one package, respectively. If you want to refer to design type, you don't refer to the chips only as "dual-core" and "quad-core".. you add whatever acronym or defining phrase you want to describe it.

A Honda Accord and a Toyota Camry are both cars. It is not inaccurate to refer to them as cars. You use "cars" to describe them when you're not differentiating between them but between other types of automobiles.. or if you were to say to your teenager "Take the car to school today", for example. You call them by name, "Accord" and "Camry", when referencing the relatively slight differences between the two.

Additionally, the differences between the Accord and Camry don't make them not cars. The differences between a "2C MCM" dual-core chip and a dual-core chip featuring one piece of silicon don't make the "2C MCM" not a dual-core chip.

 

[pacho108]

Originally posted by: FelixDeKat
Intel processors are better than AMD, hands down.

says an intel fanboy

 

[zsdersw]

"BUT!" or not, it's still two different subjects rofl!

Irrelevant. You implied a connection between the two.. which was the fault.

 

[kmtyb]

Nehlem parts are going to be called Core 3 🙂