Intel forces all Non Z series mainboards to disable Overclocking

[jason5220]

seems its the end of overclocking the G3258 on cheap H97M boards etc.

Really wanted to buy the H97M Pro AS Rock on newegg for $68. So I can overclock the G3258 but now it seems like we are all screwed.

if I buy the H97M PRO right now on newegg am I guaranteed to get a board with a bios version lower than 2.0? ASRock released this new microcode exactly 1 month ago. But then I see on this thread people are reporting G3258 only allowed 1 core on windows 10 without the update?

What you guys think go for the H97M PRO right now? or shell out $20 extra and get the Z97M AsRock for $88 instead?

http://hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1870450

user also verifies its true

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157512&cm_re=H97M-_-13-157-512-_-Product


QUOTE Cons: I was going to give this 5 stars but as of this weeks update they have removed CPU overclocking from the UEFI. that was one of the reasons i chose this motherboard and the more expensive K series processor

 

[jason5220]

Lets just say I shell out the extra $20 for the Z97 is there any real benefit to this? because the 4790K already runs at 4.4 GHZ by default with stock cooler.

Even if you were to raise it to 4.6 GHZ you would be wasting money on an aftermarket cooler, and even then a $84 board is unlikely to actually do 4.6 so all in all its not even worth the trouble.

So taking into consideration a 4790K is just fine at stock speeds what real benefits would a Z97 actually have over the H97 that would be worth this extra $20?

 

[2is]

Why would an $85 board not be able to do an extra 200mhz? It's not all that much more power consumption. If you can cool the CPU, just about any board that has OCing ability can do it. Also, afik, OCing has always only been officially supported on Z series chipsets.

 

[jason5220]

Why would an $85 board not be able to do an extra 200mhz? It's not all that much more power consumption. If you can cool the CPU, just about any board that has OCing ability can do it. Also, afik, OCing has always only been officially supported on Z series chipsets.

yeah but is 200mhz worth it is the question?

200 MHz for $20 more?

But its pretty sad that Microsoft and intel are working together underhanded in an evil scheme to removing overclocking from all non Z mainboards.

Honestly I don't see why people should be forced to buy a Z97 board just to OC a el cheapo G3258. I remember all those B85 and H81 boards were sold I'm combos with 3258 as an overclocking combo. Imagine everyone now who is going to have to live with the fact that their 4.3GHZ G3258 will now be reduced to 3.2GHZ locked Pentium unless they buy a Z97.

I think its a douche bag move on Microsoft and Intel's part. Why go this distance to piss off customers when the haswell generation is almost dead? you realize releasing the G3258 was a dumb move then fine don't release one on skylake but don't screw over users who already bought their mainboard for Christ sakes.

 

[Dufus]

Windows 10 applies microcode update version 0x1C.

Don't know if ASRocks BIOS can be rolled back to use less than 0x19.

You could run a OS other than W10 if it's an option. Plenty of people have reverted backwards from W10 given it's built in spyware and forced updates. One poor guy lost three LCD's due to this.

 

[Burpo]

Nothings going to change on any board that's not flashed with new bios..

As far as " Microsoft and intel are working together underhanded in an evil scheme"..

Dude, where do you get your pot?

 

[MongGrel]

Dude, where do you get your pot?

:biggrin:

 

[VirtualLarry]

Funny, my Gigabyte GA-H81M-DS2V v1.0 board, just got a BIOS update recently (For Win10 AE issues), and now it OVERCLOCKS BETTER. They didn't take away overclocking, they improved it.

So, if some mobo makers are knuckling under for Intel, that's too bad. My understanding was that Win10 pushed a certain microcode update, but ONLY if it was newer than what was in the BIOS. Hence, mobo makers came out with a BIOS update, with an even NEWER microcode update, that was the Win10 one becomes not effective. And still allowing OCing.

PS. With the newest BIOS, DS2V can go up to 1.7V vcore, rather than being limited to 1.2V.

Edit: PPS. Why the new username, john5220? Old one get banned?

 

[ShintaiDK]

Windows pushes an obsolete microcode. Get a newer one from your BIOS vendor or disable the update.

The 0x1C was replaced less than a week after with 0x1D. And the update itself is a year old, yet MS pushed it as "new". The latest microcode is 0x2A if I recall right.

In short, tell MS to stop constantly messing up.