Intel Extreme Graphics: What is the real video card equivalent

[bluemax]

Originally posted by: XBoxLPU
My mom still uses an Rage 128, a whopping 4mb

Rage 128's never came with less than 16MB. You probably have the old Rage Pro. 2D redraws are a little slow but crisp.

 

[AgaBoogaBoo]

Its worse than the Radeon VE SDRAM line because I'm currently stuck on a Radeon VE SDR and my brother has Intel Extreme graphics and mine seems to do a lot better atleast in games where cpus aren't the bottleneck.

 

[OverVolt]

I would try to conveince those people tp upgrade memory to at least 256mb. on 128megs, just about everything will run off the swap file and be terribly slow. Even just browsing.

Intel Extreme can't do barely ANY games. Maybe some very old ones, but nothing recent as said before.

If they need more gaming power a PCI card should do just fine, Dell takes off the AGP slots to save money, and it totally cuts your upgrade options.

 

[dexvx]

Originally posted by: merlocka
There are some details in this thread.

I posted some results of the IEG on my laptop.


Oddly enough, I've recently benchmarked the Intel "Extreme" graphics on my laptop.

Dell C400 laptop
P3 1.2GHz
512MB PC133
Windows 2000
Intel 830M "Extreme" integrated graphics, driver version 12.1

Quake3Arena demo

Demo001 - Set to "high quality" then resolution/color depth changed
640x480x16/32bpp = 72/62FPS
1024x768x16/32bpp = 32/27FPS

Mad Onion

3DMark2001SE
640x480x16/32bpp = 1875/1714
1024x768x16/32bpp = 1017/985


In general, it's about TnT2 performance.

You're comparing the LAPTOP extreme series (you probably have a Pentium3 based laptop with SDR ram, based on the i830 chipset). Totally different then the i845G extreme series with DDR SDRam.

 

[merlocka]

Originally posted by: dexvx

You're comparing the LAPTOP extreme series (you probably have a Pentium3 based laptop with SDR ram, based on the i830 chipset). Totally different then the i845G extreme series with DDR SDRam.

umm, ya. I posted the system specs with the data.

If you want some benchmarks of 845G with a 2.4P4 you can check here.

With the 830M the results are similar to TnT2 performance.
With a 2.4G CPU and 845G, the results are somewhere between a TnT2 and a Geforce2MX.

Whoda thunk that a thread about intel extreme graphics would have 29 posts in one day...

 

[apoppin]

Originally posted by: Batman5177
believe it or not, their marketing strategy works! call it "Extreme" and people will buy it!

just check out the gamespot forums. you'll find lots of people wondering why their P4 3.06ghz with intel extreme graphics wont run games well.

ex·treme ( P ) Pronunciation Key (k-strm)
adj.
Most remote in any direction; outermost or farthest: the extreme edge of the field.
Being in or attaining the greatest or highest degree; very intense: extreme pleasure; extreme pain.
Extending far beyond the norm: an extreme conservative. See Synonyms at excessive.
Of the greatest severity; drastic: took extreme measures to conserve fuel.
Sports.
Very dangerous or difficult: extreme rafting.
Participating or tending to participate in a very dangerous or difficult sport: an extreme skier.
Archaic. Final; last.

n.
The greatest or utmost degree or point.
Either of the two things situated at opposite ends of a range: the extremes of boiling and freezing.
An extreme condition.
An immoderate, drastic expedient: resorted to extremes in the emergency.
Mathematics.
The first or last term of a ratio or a series.
A maximum or minimum value of a function.
Logic. The major or minor term of a syllogism.

I think "extreme" can be applied to Intel's graphics solution: EXTREMEly Mundane Graphics

 

[Sunner]

One thing to considder is that most IEG solutions have quite bad 2D.
One of my workstations at work is based on the i815, which while older than the i845G is similar in 2D quality.
When I threw a Voodoo3 PCI in there, there was a clear difference, even on our Compaq S910 monitors(cheap but ok monitors).

We have slowly began the process of upgrading our aging workstations to Evo510 boxes, they come with i845G chipsets, and as with the i815's, the 2D isn't too great.
But at least Compaq is nice enough to leave an AGP slot in there, if I ever get an upgrade, Im picking up a Radeon 9100 or something

 

[Harabecw]

what about the SIS chipset? in this 651 based motherboard there is an onboard VGA chipset, never tried it and I dont intend to anytime soon.

but, anyone got any benches?