intel extreme graphics is equiv to what?

thuned

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What would you ppl say intel's extreme graphics is equivalence to? Compared to a dedicated 3d card. tnt, tnt2, voodoo3 somewhere along there?


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The one on the 855 (ie centrino) chipset.
 

Bateluer

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Originally posted by: klah
Down near the GeForce256-SDR and Radeon7000.


That sounds more accurate to me. Integrated video has made some strides in recent chipsets. Its no where near as terrible as they used to be.
 

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The i810 graphics I have on this comp is probably about a TNT1...maybe...
 
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Originally posted by: lifeguard1999
An etch-a-sketch.

Pen and paper.

What chipset? The i810 to i845 series is utter crap, but the 2nd-gen (i855 mobile, i865/875 desktop) stuff is on par with a low-clocked gF4MX or R7500.

- M4H
 

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Intel Extreme graphics 1 on intel 845G or 845GE chipset = GeForce256(845G) or GeForce2 MX 400(845GE) or Radeon 7200

Intel extreme graphics 2 on Intel 865G chipset = GeForce4 MX440 First edition or Radeon 7500 with 64 MB RAM.
 

Nebor

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You could probably draw the frames by hand faster.... Especially if you overclock your hand.

As I go to hit the post button I think, "overclock your hand" could definitely be taken the wrong way. *cries*
 

VIAN

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LOL!

Smell smoke?

"Intel" and "Graphics" are not... what are they... ummm. I think Intel should just stick to CPUs.
 

thedarkwolf

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The Intell 828656, whatever the hell that is :), in this computer at work is a little faster than the POS ATI 7000 I have at home. I haven't benchmarked it or anything though. Thats just going by how Enemy Territory feels.
 

yhelothar

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Originally posted by: klah
Down near the GeForce256-SDR and Radeon7000.

geforce256 SDR is more equivalent to a radeon 7200...
radeon 7000 is more equivalent to a TNT2 ultra with only 1 pipeline and no hardware T&L
 

McArra

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Originally posted by: Nebor
You could probably draw the frames by hand faster.... Especially if you overclock your hand.

As I go to hit the post button I think, "overclock your hand" could definitely be taken the wrong way. *cries*

LOL :D
 

Insomniak

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Originally posted by: lifeguard1999
An etch-a-sketch.


Bingo.


The ONLY integrated graphics which are even REMOTELY viable are the integrated GeForce 4 MX chips in an Nforce 2 Mobo. Other than that, prepare to pony up for a dedicated GPU if you seriously expect to play games with the system.
 

Matthias99

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Intel Extreme 2 graphics are noticeably worse than a GF2MX -- they lack Hardware Transform and Lighting. Maybe along the lines of a TNT or TNT2, or a RADEON 7XXX. *Maybe*. Just about any standalone card will outperform it, due to having dedicated onboard memory.

The ONLY integrated graphics which are even REMOTELY viable are the integrated GeForce 4 MX chips in an Nforce 2 Mobo. Other than that, prepare to pony up for a dedicated GPU if you seriously expect to play games with the system.

The RADEON Mobile chipsets (9000/9600), and their IGP 3XX (which is gradually trickling into new motherboards), are actually pretty decent. All the Intel ones are crap, though.
 

Bateluer

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You got to remember, people don't choose an IGP because they want performance, they get it to cut costs. Or they are just incredibly stupid.
 

dguy6789

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being the fact that my friend just bought a brand new emachine with intel extreme graphics 2, and that fact that it runs c&c generals at less then 5 fps, i would say intel extreme graphics are about a 1/10th the speed of a gf2 mx400. what moron said that it was as fast as a gf4mx440, i dont know where he got his info, intel extreme graphics are super slow. on a scale, intel extreme graphics are to a gf2 mx, is the same as a gf2 to a rad 9800 xt, that is how much faster a gf2 is then a intel extreme, these ppl arent kidding pen and paper is better.
 

Insomniak

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Originally posted by: Matthias99


The ONLY integrated graphics which are even REMOTELY viable are the integrated GeForce 4 MX chips in an Nforce 2 Mobo. Other than that, prepare to pony up for a dedicated GPU if you seriously expect to play games with the system.

The RADEON Mobile chipsets (9000/9600), and their IGP 3XX (which is gradually trickling into new motherboards), are actually pretty decent. All the Intel ones are crap, though.

Yeah, but in that post I was talking non-mobile chipsets. As for mobiles, yeah, both ATi and Nvidia's mobile chips are pretty good, though ATi has a slight edge right now I think.
 

Matthias99

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The RADEON IGP is their new *desktop* integrated chipset. Boards using it are just hitting the market now.