Intel Displays Self-Branded Water Cooling Solution for Sandy Bridge-E

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http://www.techpowerup.com/152042/I...ater-Cooling-Solution-for-Sandy-Bridge-E.html
Back in August, it was reported that the retail packages of some, if not all, Intel's Sandy Bridge-E Core i7 LGA2011 processors will not pack the certified cooling solution like Core i7 LGA1366 processors do. It was also reported that Intel will sell its own-branded cooling solutions separately. It became a little obvious right then, that Intel won't selling dinky-little heatsinks that cost a couple of dozen Dollars. At the ongoing IDF event, Intel displayed its first retail-packaged cooling solution that's not only LGA2011-compatible, but also supports older socket types such as LGA1155, LGA1156, and LGA1366.

The cooling solution is a closed-loop (self-contained) liquid cooler made by water cooling OEM Asetek. Called the RTS2011LC, the cooler is rated to cool processors with TDP of up to 130W. The cooler consists of an exposed-copper block that also houses the pump, tough and flexible tubing that runs to the radiator assembly, which houses a reservoir, and a fancy-looking 120 mm fan. Along with the fan, the Intel logo on the block lights up blue. The radiator used looks similar to that on the Hydro Series H70, a popular cooler by Corsair, which is also made by Asetek. Expected to be available around the same time as Core i7 LGA2011 processors, the Intel RTS2011LC could command a price over $99.

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Source: LegitReviews

 

[OBLAMA2009]

would this be something you would have to add your own water to? would have have to worry about the water spilling all over the electronics if you picked up and moved you computer. if so that would be absolutely retarded, id stick with current i7's as long as possible

 

[996GT2]

Radiator looks similar to the one found on the H70.

Even with 2 high-RPM fans, the H70 gets handily outperformed by a high-end air cooler like the Noctua NH-D14 or Thermalright Silver Arrow with two low-speed fans.

When using similar RPM fans on both, the H70 runs about 10C hotter than a Silver Arrow!

 

[Piano Man]

Totally gouging the customer. I guess as long as they only pull this stuff on their E series line it doesn't really matter, as anyone who is willing to fork an insane amount of cash for a relatively faster CPU will undoubtedly be bringing their own cooling solution to the table.

But if this tactic filters down to their main line of chips, that is just ridiculous.

 

[blackened23]

Radiator looks similar to the one found on the H70.

Even with 2 high-RPM fans, the H70 gets handily outperformed by a high-end air cooler like the Noctua NH-D14 or Thermalright Silver Arrow with two low-speed fans.

When using similar RPM fans on both, the H70 runs about 10C hotter than a Silver Arrow!

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The antec kuhler 920 outperforms everything in that list and the noctua NH-D14, AFAIK. It is bracket compatible with the intel cooler.

I don't really think any of these models are supposed to be massively better than top air coolers, its not a true water cooling solution with a water block. For me the biggest draw is that you have MUCH more room to work with in your case, the clutter around the CPU is far smaller. As well, the Antech 620/920 are very, very, very quiet.

I'm pretty set on getting the antec 920 for my next build. Its an excellent cooler, which happens to be bracket compatible with the corsair 50/70's - which works out great for me.

 

[Tsavo]

Pew-nay.

 

[StrangerGuy]

Radiator looks similar to the one found on the H70.

Even with 2 high-RPM fans, the H70 gets handily outperformed by a high-end air cooler like the Noctua NH-D14 or Thermalright Silver Arrow with two low-speed fans.

When using similar RPM fans on both, the H70 runs about 10C hotter than a Silver Arrow!

http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/coolers/display/corsair-h100_5.html#sect0

When H100, let alone the H70, gets outperformed by an Thermalright Archon that is cheaper, more reliable and doesn't leak water, why even bother?

I'm pretty starting from Ivy even true WC will be obsolete since its even less likely to be heat-limited than the already icy cold SB.

 

[Edrick]

For me the biggest draw is that you have MUCH more room to work with in your case, the clutter around the CPU is far smaller. As well, the H50/H70/Antech 620/920 are very, very, very quiet.

+1

Even if these self contained water coolers get beat by the top of the line air coolers, there are still benefits which include the above quote.

 

[God Mode]

http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/coolers/display/corsair-h100_5.html#sect0

When H100, let alone the H70, gets outperformed by an Thermalright Archon that is cheaper, more reliable and doesn't leak water, why even bother?

I'm pretty starting from Ivy even true WC will be obsolete since its even less likely to be heat-limited than the already icy cold SB.

Some people can easily mount these in their case while a tower sink wont fit. I really see no point in using these if you're using a large case that can fit any heatsink.

 

[Meghan54]

Some people can easily mount these in their case while a tower sink wont fit. I really see no point in using these if you're using a large case that can fit any heatsink.

Here are a couple of reasons: can be quieter, won't block off memory slots.


Water cooling was never cost competitive with air coolers....how could they be? More moving parts, more complex assemblies, etc. And the self-encolsed ones like the H70 and that Intel contraption were never supposed to outperform top end air cooling, just perform near those and provide other benefits.

If you look at the IB motherboards, with the memory slots placed on either side of the cpu, I'd almost think massive tower air coolers aren't going to work too well.....we already have problems with those type coolers blocking memory slots on boards with the slots further away from the cpu socket than the new IB X79 boards.

 

[Ferzerp]

I use an H50 right now, and wouldn't trade it for a giant traditional HSF. It performs well enough to keep my i7-930 comfortably cool at 4Ghz, is very quiet, and takes up very little room.

If I wanted to do some crazy bleeding edge OC, I'd get something more capable, but right now I'm not even at the limits of what stock voltage will get me (the 930 is actually undervolted).

The stock cooler, however, was awful and temps rose out of control at these speeds.

 

[drizek]

+1

Even if these self contained water coolers get beat by the top of the line air coolers, there are still benefits which include the above quote.

Except they aren't quiet. Every review I've read says that they are louder than a high end tower with good fans on it.

 

[blackened23]

Except they aren't quiet. Every review I've read says that they are louder than a high end tower with good fans on it.

The hell are you talking about? The loudness depends entirely on WHICH 120mm fans are bundled with it. The corsairs H100/H80 aren't quiet because they are bundled with horribly cheap 120mm fans. The H50/H70 are mostly quiet, but the fans bundled are still cheap. The antecs are the quietest coolers i've ever used. Quieter than the NH-D14 to my ears.

It all boils down to WHICH 120mm fans they pack with it -- You simply can't make a broad statement proclaiming that this intel cooler will be loud. It all depends on which 120mm fans are used with the radiator, and that we DONT know.

Then again, I have a ton of 120mm fans lying around from old cases so they're easy to replace.

 

[Ferzerp]

However, if they do bundle them, it would be nice to offer a traditional HSF retail version as well for those that want the retail warranty (or are retail and OEM warranties the same at this point?), but don't want to pay extra for a cooler they won't use.

 

[drizek]

I didn't say that Intels will be loud, I just said that it is not true that these fauxter coolers are quieter than air coolers as a general rule. A full tower can be made silent with a silent fan, these things also have the pump running all the time that raises the noise floor.

I admit I've never used one, but only because I've heard bad things about both noise and performance relative to high end towers.

 

[blackened23]

I didn't say that Intels will be loud, I just said that it is not true that these fauxter coolers are quieter than air coolers as a general rule. A full tower can be made silent with a silent fan, these things also have the pump running all the time that raises the noise floor.

I admit I've never used one, but only because I've heard bad things about both noise and performance relative to high end towers.

Fair enough. I am somewhat concerned about what this cooler would do to the price -- hopefully intel won't force it on us. Are all boxed CPU's going to have it? Meaning we have to get an oem cpu, if we're using our own cooler? Hmm.

 

[996GT2]

The hell are you talking about? The loudness depends entirely on WHICH 120mm fans are bundled with it. The corsairs H100/H80 aren't quiet because they are bundled with horribly cheap 120mm fans. The H50/H70 are mostly quiet, but the fans bundled are still cheap. The antecs are the quietest coolers i've ever used. Quieter than the NH-D14 to my ears.

It all boils down to WHICH 120mm fans they pack with it -- You simply can't make a broad statement proclaiming that this intel cooler will be loud. It all depends on which 120mm fans are used with the radiator, and that we DONT know.

Then again, I have a ton of 120mm fans lying around from old cases so they're easy to replace.

Uh, no. Just no.

The H80 and H100 aren't quiet because they are bundled with very high-speed fans (2600 RPM). Not because the fans are low quality. In fact, Corsair specifically sourced those fans for the H80/H100 due to their static pressure performance. The H100 and H80 NEED those fans to reach the same performance as high-end air coolers using 1300 RPM fans. The H70 is quieter compared to the H80 because its fans are lower RPM (around 2000). As a result it also does not perform as well as the H80.

I don't care how good of a fan you put on there, at 2600 RPM it's going to be loud no matter what. Slap a 2600 RPM Gentle Typhoon on there and the noise levels will still be much greater than a Silver Arrow or NH-D14 with their stock 1300 RPM fans.

 

[Majic 7]

I have a H70 with two Scythe fans, push at 680rpms and pull at 1100rpms. Idles at 30 to 34 depending on ambient, games at 50, and runs Prime blend at 55 after 8 hrs. Works for me. 10 degrees cooler than my Noctua U12P at load. Idles the same.

 

[notty22]

I'm a big fan of the H50, I know some are not. There are reviews showing these closed loop coolers performing very well. I notice most who have or are using them are happy with them.
http://blog.corsair.com/?p=987

 

[AdamK47]

I had an H70 for a little less than a month. It looked great mounted, but it's cooling performance left me underwhelmed. I'm currently using a Thermalright Silver Arrow. It does a much better job cooling my 980x.

 

[blackened23]

I'm a big fan of the H50, I know some are not. There are reviews showing these closed loop coolers performing very well. I notice most who have or are using them are happy with them.
http://blog.corsair.com/?p=987

It performs well conditionally - you must have a good case (airflow wise) and you must use a push pull configuration. I'm pretty exited about the antec kuhler 920, it uses the same idea as the corsair H50 but performs much better and extremely quiet....same bracket system too. (as the h50) Performs better than the noctua as well.

I'm also a pretty big fan of having much more room to work in the case, some air coolers are so huge that something simple like adding RAM is a difficult task (cough noctua d14)

 

[Diogenes2]

I'm using an H70 with one Cooler Master Excaliber fan .. Very quiet ..
Performance is not much, if any, better than the 212+, but reduction in case clutter is what matters to me ..

 

[Ferzerp]

It performs well conditionally - you must have a good case (airflow wise) and you must use a push pull configuration. I'm pretty exited about the antec kuhler 920, it uses the same idea as the corsair H50 but performs much better and extremely quiet....same bracket system too. (as the h50) Performs better than the noctua as well.

I'm also a pretty big fan of having much more room to work in the case, some air coolers are so huge that something simple like adding RAM is a difficult task (cough noctua d14)

Same exact bracket, so it's just remove the radiator, loosen the bracket and remove the old, but don't have to do any work under the motherboard same?

 

[blackened23]

Same exact bracket, so it's just remove the radiator, loosen the bracket and remove the old, but don't have to do any work under the motherboard same?

Right, the H50/70u uses the same mounting bracket as the antecs. Corsair partnered with a different company for the H80/100, so those are incompatible.

 

[Ferzerp]

Right, the H50/70u uses the same mounting bracket as the antecs. Corsair partnered with a different company for the H80/100, so those are incompatible.

If my h50 ever bites it, I'll keep that in mind 🙂 Thanks.