Discussion Intel current and future Lakes & Rapids thread

[A///]

Definitely good progress. Although I'd love to see a locked frequency test between the series and the 8468V.

 

[jpiniero]

Intel PK8071305118600 Xeon Bronze 3408u 1.8g 22.5m Cache Processor Tray.

Intel PK8071305118600 Xeon Bronze 3408u 1.8g 22.5m Cache Processor Tray shipped for $427.65. Free shipping! Secure purchasing, 30 day return policy.

www.shopblt.com

This site has most (?) of the SPR lineup available to backorder... although it says DDR4? Not sure what you would get if you ordered. The 8 core is $427.65.

 

[repoman27]

I asked Locuza about it, he thinks its old Sapphire Rapids XCC, interestingly enough the Print is different as in less efficient than the Original old design perhaps its an entirely different CPU? I guess they did not have finished wafers as they expected?

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It's the elusive SPR XCC 15C + HBM tile, which I estimated at 483 mm² from these photos:

Note the difference in aspect ratio of the tiles. Intel made 4 different SPR XCC dies between the left and right handed and HBM / non-HBM versions.

 

[nicalandia]

I guess I made a big enough of a fuss in Twitter?
I tagged Andreas, Dr. Ian, Locuza and others.



Lets see the real deal already

 

[Geddagod]

I guess I made a big enough of a fuss in Twitter?
I tagged Andreas, Dr. Ian, Locuza and others.
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Lets see the real deal already

Yay! If it was you, lol, good job.
They better post a shot of SRF soon though

 

[coercitiv]

I guess I made a big enough of a fuss in Twitter?
I tagged Andreas, Dr. Ian, Locuza and others.

Little did they know that all those people asking them for the real pic were... only one person: @nicalandia .

 

[Exist50]

I guess I made a big enough of a fuss in Twitter?
I tagged Andreas, Dr. Ian, Locuza and others.
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Lets see the real deal already

Hah, well that certainly explains it. Intel marketing never ceases to amaze in their ability to screw up the most basic things. And this is also why I have no respect for the business group leaders like Spelman. So far removed from the actual product that they literally don't even know what they're looking at.

 

[A///]

It's a trope in film, but marketing very much is a "lines of powdered sugar" enviro today as it was in the 1980s when that trope was alive and kicking.

 

[aigomorla]

So for next gen intel HEDT your looking at:

1299 - ASUS W790E - Sage Pro
1200 ~ 4 x (2 x 32gb DDR5)
1800~ Im hearing that is what retail price will be at launch.

4299 ~ just for the core... for the 112 pci-e platform with pci-e 5.0.

 

[A///]

So for next gen intel HEDT your looking at:

1299 - ASUS W790E - Sage Pro
1200 ~ 4 x (2 x 32gb DDR5)
1800~ Im hearing that is what retail price will be at launch.

4299 ~ just for the core... for the 112 pci-e platform with pci-e 5.0.

Don't forget the electrician's bill upgrading your home wiring and breaker box.

 

[aigomorla]

Don't forget the electrician's bill upgrading your home wiring and breaker box.

I already picked up the new ATX 9000 standard PSU.

Its even California Approved by using bio trash as fuel.

 

[A///]

I already picked up the new ATX 9000 standard PSU.
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Its even California Approved by using bio trash as fuel.

I haven't seen the films in years now. Are they on any of the services? I've got the DVDs but no player available. It's in a moving box somewhere if the movers didn't nick it.

 

[nicalandia]

Another Xeon w9-3495x Review. Use Google translate.

【Hothotレビュー】 異次元の性能が新たな境地を切り開く。56コアのXeon w9-3495Xを試す

Intelから、Sapphire RapidsことXeon W-3400およびXeon W-2400シリーズが正式発表となった。店頭ではXeon W-2400が既に販売されているのだが、上位のXeon W-3400についても並ぶまで時間の問題だろう。

pc.watch.impress.co.jp

Air Cooled stock performance on Cinebench R23 is 61,000 points

 

[A///]

Power usage?

 

[aigomorla]

uhhh.... can someone explain to me what that bottom comment means.

I haven't seen the films in years now. Are they on any of the services? I've got the DVDs but no player available. It's in a moving box somewhere if the movers didn't nick it.

Suposidly 4 is coming out.

 

[A///]

uhhh.... can someone explain to me what that bottom comment means.

Can you be more specific?

 

[Geddagod]

Intel ships multi-die chips to US military ahead of schedule

What else when you have a customer that will only accept these three words: Sir, yes, sir

www.theregister.com

It's a miracle lol
Also this:

https://twitter.com/x/status/1644201346474868737

Looks like SKT goes wider. Wonder how they are going to feed that.

 

[Exist50]

Intel ships multi-die chips to US military ahead of schedule

What else when you have a customer that will only accept these three words: Sir, yes, sir

www.theregister.com

It's a miracle lol
Also this:

https://twitter.com/x/status/1644201346474868737

Looks like SKT goes wider. Wonder how they are going to feed that.

I'm sure the front end will be even more interesting

 

[A///]

Give it some time and people will call Pat "Guns A'blazing Gunslinger" Gelsinger as Papa Gelsinger.

 

[Geddagod]

Early Intel 14th Gen Meteor Lake-M Laptop CPU With 4+8 Core Configuration Spotted

An early Intel Meteor Lake-M CPU sample which features a total of 12 cores has been leaked within a Dell Inspirion test unit.

wccftech.com

reminding anyone of 0.8 GHz ADL leaking out in userbenchmark 8 months before ADL launch?

 

[Hulk]

Early Intel 14th Gen Meteor Lake-M Laptop CPU With 4+8 Core Configuration Spotted

An early Intel Meteor Lake-M CPU sample which features a total of 12 cores has been leaked within a Dell Inspirion test unit.

wccftech.com

reminding anyone of 0.8 GHz ADL leaking out in userbenchmark 8 months before ADL launch?

Yes, that was a baffling one as well.

 

[nicalandia]

Power usage?

460 Watts at stock and over 1000 watts when OC

 

[nicalandia]

PugetSystem Review on Xeon W 2400 series.

Intel Xeon W-2400 Content Creation Review

Intel has released its latest Xeon W-2400 processors, featuring up to 24 cores and quad channel DDR5 memory. Although the W-2400 is not as powerful as Intel's W-3400 line, it is expected to compete well with AMD's lower core count Threadripper Pro processors for several content creation workflows.

www.pugetsystems.com

For General Computing the Threadripper Pro 5965WX with 8 channel it reings supreme.

 

[A///]

TR Pro, based on a now 3 year old core release which was designed years beforehand. It sounds pathetic on Intel's end given some of the dire comments I've seen on messaging boards but this is actually very good for Intel. They've made some performance leaps. Getting their power usage under control is another big step they have to undertake and I have no doubt they will get there eventually.

 

[Geddagod]

PugetSystem Review on Xeon W 2400 series.
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Intel Xeon W-2400 Content Creation Review

Intel has released its latest Xeon W-2400 processors, featuring up to 24 cores and quad channel DDR5 memory. Although the W-2400 is not as powerful as Intel's W-3400 line, it is expected to compete well with AMD's lower core count Threadripper Pro processors for several content creation workflows.

www.pugetsystems.com

For General Computing the Threadripper Pro 5965WX with 8 channel it reings supreme.

These are some very interesting results.

The 24 core Intel xeon performs within the margin of error of the 24 core AMD Zen 3 system. All while consuming ~80% the energy of the AMD threadripper in CB.
In blender The 24 core AMD part is 7% faster, while using ~50% more Whr
In Premiere Pro idk why SPR is performing worse than their icelake counterparts. Anyone know why? Idk if this is because of bugs, or because of an architectural difference, or because icelake is consuming >35% more power, because even in what looks like raw MT tests 24 core SPR is losing to the 8+16 RPL too. No idea.
And in Unreal engine, the 24 core AMD part only takes up 75% the time as their SPR competition in compile shaders, and preforms effectively the same in build lighting, but again, all while using >20% more Whr.

A lot of these tests have Intel losses, or near ties, while the Intel part is using marginally to a lot less power. This is not as straight forward as saying the 24 core AMD zen 3 part is better, because if we match up the tests with the power draw results as well, it starts painting a very different picture.

I'm also very interested in what the 2495X vs the w7 3455 is going to look like. Both 24 core parts, one is monolithic while the other one is chiplets based, and also has way more L3 cache. I think the power consumption results are going to be very interesting as well. It's a shame the early preview did not have that, but the website did mention that they will have a review of those CPUs up soon so that's going to be fun.

Just based on the early preview though:
In CB, V-ray, Blender, Unreal Build lighting, Davinci resolve intraframe, the scores are effectively the same
Unreal Compile shaders the monolithic version scored ~10% faster,
In Premiere Pro Raw Result the chiplet version scores nearly ~20% faster
These are from the tests where it wasn't ST based where the 13900k wasn't blowing away everything, and also where the versions of the test are matched together. I might have missed some though. This was a quick glance. Results may vary from the final review, this info is from the early preview after all.