SPR must have been sampling for some time now. We've seen ES in the wild before. And didn't realize I'd been put in a camp...Milan-X is already shipping, and Genoa is sampling I think. Sapphire Rapids is not even sampling yet, how could you possibly think they can compete ? and on desktop, ADL is barely competitive, and not in perf/watt, so what makes you think is will be interesting there either ? Especially when Vermeer-X (or whatever) comes out ? Exist50 even agrees.