Intel Core i7-6950X , Intel Core i7-6900K and Intel Core i7-5960X

[Ajay]

I dont think a Skylake Refresh will be released as enthusiast since the release frequency isnt the same as mainstream

Not sure what you are saying here?

 

[jpiniero]

I expect the Skylake-X turbo clock to be at least 4 Ghz for the 10 core and more than 4 Ghz for the 6 and 8. It'd obviously have to downclock when using AVX-512 but the throughput should still be higher.

Whether that'd be better in games versus a theoretical 4.5/4.9 4C8T Kaby Lake-X is certainly up for question.

 

[Ajay]

4GHz turbo on the 10 core - that would be impressive. I will be surprised if SKL-X clocks that high for 10 cores. Then again, if what I've read is true - that SKL-X/EP will be manufactured on 14nm plus - I suppose its possible.

 

[PontiacGTX]

Not sure what you are saying here?

KabyLake=Skylake refresh so its unlikely they will release the same cpu architecture on enthusiast on the same socket with no improvement

 

[jpiniero]

4GHz turbo on the 10 core - that would be impressive. I will be surprised if SKL-X clocks that high for 10 cores. Then again, if what I've read is true - that SKL-X/EP will be manufactured on 14nm plus - I suppose its possible.

Basically my thinking is that Skylake-X is a different die altogether than Skylake-EP and will be tuned differently. Skylake-X is only quad channel memory; no chip interconnect, etc. It's strictly geared toward workstation and enthusiast where Turbo Boost is more useful and needed.

 

[lolfail9001]

some Xeon E5 are unlocked for overclock

That fun stopped in v4 for retail versions.

I have seen that PCI lanes don't matter at all in benchmarks.

Someone over at OC.net tested frametimes, turns out they do matter.

 

[crashtech]

That fun stopped in v4 for retail versions.

Someone over at OC.net tested frametimes, turns out they do matter.

I'd like to take a look at that if you have a link handy.

 

[Ajay]

Basically my thinking is that Skylake-X is a different die altogether than Skylake-EP and will be tuned differently. Skylake-X is only quad channel memory; no chip interconnect, etc. It's strictly geared toward workstation and enthusiast where Turbo Boost is more useful and needed.

That would make allot of sense, assuming Intel sells enough SKL-X CPUs.

 

[Arachnotronic]

That would make allot of sense, assuming Intel sells enough SKL-X CPUs.

Nope. Intel has often had a "cut down" platform with fewer memory channels and fewer pins. LGA 2011 was accompanied by an LGA 1356 in the Romley gen, but these platforms weren't very widely advertised to the consumer market.

With Skylake-Xeon, LGA-2066 becomes the "cut down" platform relative to the top-end LGA-3467, and it is what will be sold into the workstation/consumer market. The dies, just as they are on the LGA 1356 chips, are the same.

 

[Ajay]

Well, you've got me there. Didn't know about "E" class LGA 1356 chips. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGA_1356

 

[wingman04]

That fun stopped in v4 for retail versions.

Someone over at OC.net tested frametimes, turns out they do matter.

Who at OC.net has the equipment to test frame times?

 

[lolfail9001]

Who at OC.net has the equipment to test frame times?

I suppose, the more correct wording would be to say :"minimum framerates".

Anyways, i can't exactly find that post now, all i remember were LGA2011-3 chips and SLId Titans and slight minimum framerate improvement from going to 40 lanes on same clocks.

 

[wingman04]

Did you see this Video?

 

[biostud]

But since nvidia only supports 2x SLI with newer cards, then the extra pcie lanes play less of a role.

 

[biostud]

Pushed to Q3/Q4, sadly.

But still no pcie 4.0.

 

[LTC8K6]

But since nvidia only supports 2x SLI with newer cards, then the extra pcie lanes play less of a role.

But that new 2X SLI supposedly needs a lot more bandwidth?

 

[LTC8K6]

Through aggressive pricing and marketing. But, that got a slap on the wrist already for aggressive marketing and, as I said, Intel doesn't want to erode its profits either.

And so far there is no sign that Intel needs to do anything.

 

[biostud]

But that new 2X SLI supposedly needs a lot more bandwidth?

Hence the HB SLI bridge?

 

[Burpo]

This video popped up yesterday & guy is a motor mouth, but does a quick compare of 5960X vs 6950X (both at 4.4Ghz). As expected the 6950X kills 5960X in multi-thread. Cinebench R15 score of 2263 vs 1725.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hRPpVFZpN5Y

 

[wingman04]

This video popped up yesterday & guy is a motor mouth, but does a quick compare of 5960X vs 6950X (both at 4.4Ghz). As expected the 6950X kills 5960X in multi-thread. Cinebench R15 score of 2263 vs 1725.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hRPpVFZpN5Y

Adobe creative sweets encoding was only 1 minute 20 seconds faster out of 16 minutes and 50 seconds.

 

[LTC8K6]

Adobe creative sweets encoding was only 1 minute 20 seconds faster out of 16 minutes and 50 seconds.

I think he gave an adequate explanation of why Adobe may not have shown a big improvement.

 

[wingman04]

I think he gave an adequate explanation of why Adobe may not have shown a big improvement.

He did not prove are give us a program that substantially benefits with 10 cores over a 5960X.