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Intel Core i7-6950X , Intel Core i7-6900K and Intel Core i7-5960X

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pcslookout

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What would be the reason to get a processor this expensive for ?

I am curious.

How much more power do they have than a $300 to $400 processor ?
 
pcslookout said:
How much more power do they have than a $300 to $400 processor ?
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Substantially more if your are working with something that can use the additional threads. Typically rendering or encoding. That being said, my children have/are growing out of that stage where they want to watch the same thing over and over so I have a diminishing need for these capabilities now. Unless I'm just bitten with the "gotta have it" bug for some future multi-threaded monster cpu, I'll likely just stick with the mainstream platforms from now on.
 
YBS1 said:
Substantially more if your are working with something that can use the additional threads. Typically rendering or encoding. That being said, my children have/are growing out of that stage where they want to watch the same thing over and over so I have a diminishing need for these capabilities now. Unless I'm just bitten with the "gotta have it" bug for some future multi-threaded monster cpu, I'll likely just stick with the mainstream platforms from now on.
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Mainstream platforms being what ?
 
Mainstream, meaning not the HEDT line. Z97, Z170, and future platform developments along that lineage.
 
wingman04 said:
What is the change?
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Specs don't advance much compared to LGA-2011 (PCIe 4.0 would have been nice for longevity).
The main issue is that the same chipset (and potentially, the same motherboard) will support both top binned Kabylake-X quad cores and Skylake-X 6,8 &10 core variants (with lower clock speeds). As Arachnotronic said, you get to choose higher clocks or more cores than the standard desktop line of CPUs.
 
Ajay said:
Specs don't advance much compared to LGA-2011 (PCIe 4.0 would have been nice for longevity).
The main issue is that the same chipset (and potentially, the same motherboard) will support both top binned Kabylake-X quad cores and Skylake-X 6,8 &10 core variants (with lower clock speeds). As Arachnotronic said, you get to choose higher clocks or more cores than the standard desktop line of CPUs.
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Will not the standard desktop line have moved on by the time Kabylake X is released?
 
Ajay said:
Nope, Kabylake-X and Skylake-X come out Q2 of next year:
Check out this ATF post: Intel RoadmapSkylake-XKaby Lake-X and Skylake-W Processors in Q2 2017
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Pushed to Q3/Q4, sadly.

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Well, I'd like your post, but I don't like the date :anguished:

Given our reduced computer use due to mobile device usage - I'm going to consolidate mine and my wife's systems down to just one.
It'll probably be an overclock gaming system - but that won't matter to her :grinning:.
I may go with SKL-X and do a hyper-V system, I'm just starting to look into that (I run Win10, she's sticking with Win7).
 
Ajay said:
Well, I'd like your post, but I don't like the date :anguished:

Given our reduced computer use due to mobile device usage - I'm going to consolidate mine and my wife's systems down to just one.
It'll probably be an overclock gaming system - but that won't matter to her :grinning:.
I may go with SKL-X and do a hyper-V system, I'm just starting to look into that (I run Win10, she's sticking with Win7).
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Maybe I'm just on an unRAID kick, but the above use case seems like a decent excuse to go for an 8 core with two GPUs to pass through as separate work stations from one box 😛
 
YBS1 said:
Mainstream, meaning not the HEDT line. Z97, Z170, and future platform developments along that lineage.
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Yeah -- that dissuaded me from what I described somewhere as two project plans for IB-E and Haswell-E that spent months on the drawing board but were "terminated."

If I were doing work that required more than 4 cores and the software actually used more than 4 cores, I can see it. It's nice to have "more than you need," and the result may leave one almost in a state of orgasmic climax. But if you have too much more than you need and have as much occasion to use it as would cost you an extra few hours a year on a lesser platform, then you might think yourself merely stupid.

I'm even now got more reservations about adding a second Gfx card for a 2x GTX 1070 SLI. The one I have is the Gigabyte OC Mini. Somehow, it seemed that mine was OC'd just a tad too much by some 24 Mhz. Or maybe I just had to adjust 3D settings, but I switched it down from "OC" in the Gigabyte software to "ECO." . The peak frequency is somewhere above 1,800 Mhz -- either way. After a few minor tweaks and explorations, I'm wondering if I would ever need more than one card.

I dunno -- maybe the Oculus Rift thing. More money to spend . . .
 
Its nice that the mainstream and HEDT are merging in a way, but I still see a frustrating dilemma with choosing between 4 faster cores or 6-10 slower ones. It is what it is though. And Q3-4? Are you kidding? That's one hell of a long time. I guess Intel figures they can compete with Zen with what they have out now just fine? I think Intel should release Skylake-X 8 core for $600 and 6 core for $450 to take the wind out of Zen's sails. Sounds like a good idea to me.
 
Intel probably doesn't want to 'take out' AMD. Intel wants to maximize profit margins and keep AMD from expanding significantly. Don't expect any deals on an 8 core SKL-X
 
VirtualLarry said:
With the new KBL-X platform (2066?), Intel is crossing over mainstream and HEDT platforms.
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I dont think a Skylake Refresh will be released as enthusiast since the release frequency isnt the same as mainstream

lolfail9001 said:
Let's just say there are folks who want both: threads and clocks.
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some Xeon E5 are unlocked for overclock

wingman04 said:
Will not the standard desktop line have moved on by the time Kabylake X is released?
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Mainstream is limited to less PCIe Lanes, less memory channels , lower core count and only single socket cpus, if you wanted to get a mainstream cpu you would get a faster 4 core cpu but if the application you use need higher bandwidth,core count or pcie then you would get a slower cpu
 
PontiacGTX said:
Mainstream is limited to less PCIe Lanes, less memory channels , lower core count and only single socket cpus, if you wanted to get a mainstream cpu you would get a faster 4 core cpu but if the application you use need higher bandwidth,core count or pcie then you would get a slower cpu
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I have seen that PCI lanes don't matter at all in benchmarks.

 
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