Discussion Intel Core i7-11370H is it power hungry?

[Asterox]

Well, obviously Tigerlake it can be very power hungry for 4/8 Mobile 10nm CPU.

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CPU package power, or we look only at CPU power consumption.

For comparison i will use my 65W Desktop Renoir APU.

For Renoir APU(Core Performance Boost=Auto) it is roughly the highest measured power consumption in these two examples. The power consumption in the Blender test varies, i noticed a minimum of about 60W, but mostly CPU package power is around 70W

10nm Mobile 4/8 Core i7-11370H, 35W

- Cinebench R15, 53W

- Blender, 54W






7nm Desktop 6/12 Renoir APU, 65W

- Cinebench R15, 74W

- Blender, 72W





"I am a little surprised," that Desktop Renoir APU in the same tests uses only 20W more power.

 

[jpiniero]

Intel does give the OEMs wide latitude in PL1 and PL2.

 

[ondma]

Why would anyone pair a 3070 with a quad core cpu? Seems like a very unbalanced combination.
8 core TL-H and mobile Alder Lake cannot come soon enough.

 

[Asterox]

Intel does give the OEMs wide latitude in PL1 and PL2.

Yes, "but if you step on the gas what's left of that label Mobile CPU".

For example, Ryzen 3 Pro 4350G is Desktop 65W APU.

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Related to the earlier link provided, or older forum post.This is Desktop PC, and in Cinebench R20 Multithread total system power consumption is 74W.



It is kind of weird, in laptop 4/8 Tiger Lake only CPU can eat 53W.Total system or laptop power consumption, hm in that scenario it is probably minimum 60W.

Intel is pushing "Mobile 4/8 Tiger Lake CPU" clocks to high above optimal power efficiency.

 

[jpiniero]

Intel is pushing "Mobile 4/8 Tiger Lake CPU" clocks to high above optimal power efficiency.

60+ W PL2 isn't that unusual. Intel could force OEMs to keep the PL2 to some range but they don't. The only thing they restrict is the max all core frequency.

 

[EliteRetard]

Another set of benchmarks for the 11370H

Their summary:
It's an i3, good for light duty single threaded tasks.
Fails hard at productivity and gaming, even at 45w.

 

[ondma]

Another set of benchmarks for the 11370H

Their summary:
It's an i3, good for light duty single threaded tasks.
Fails hard at productivity and gaming, even at 45w.

His point is correct in a certain context, but I think calling it an "i3" is a bit harsh. In mobile, i3 traditionally is the bottom of the barrel, both in single (sometimes without even turbo) and multi-threaded. This processor is certainly not bottom of the barrel in single threaded. If one follows this argument, then there should be no i7 at all until the 8 core models come out. That may be actually true, but this processor should be an i5, not at i3, reserving i7 for the 8 core models and i3 for lower end quad cores with lower clockspeed.

 

[uzzi38]

His point is correct in a certain context, but I think calling it an "i3" is a bit harsh. In mobile, i3 traditionally is the bottom of the barrel, both in single (sometimes without even turbo) and multi-threaded. This processor is certainly not bottom of the barrel in single threaded. If one follows this argument, then there should be no i7 at all until the 8 core models come out. That may be actually true, but this processor should be an i5, not at i3, reserving i7 for the 8 core models and i3 for lower end quad cores with lower clockspeed.

Well it is at least numbered like an i5.

-H i5s are usually -300.

 

[jpiniero]

One point, the 11370H is basically identical to the i7 1185G7 so that probably played a part in it being branded i7.

 

[Mopetar]

Why would anyone pair a 3070 with a quad core cpu? Seems like a very unbalanced combination.
8 core TL-H and mobile Alder Lake cannot come soon enough.

Because the know some crazed miner is going to buy a whole pallet of them and use them for mining. Why put an expensive CPU in them when you can use a cheaper component and save a little bit of money.

 

[coercitiv]

Because the know some crazed miner ...

Not at all, it's because they know some random Joe will see Intel i7 and Nvidia 3070 and buy the unit regardless.

 

[lyonwonder]

I think Intel's going to release 6 and 8-core variants of Tiger Lake sometime this year too, which should raise the bar of mobile to near-desktop level?

 

[mikk]

Yes they are launching TGL-H 6/8C in May by the looks of it.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1386998564790935557

 

[PingSpike]

Why would anyone pair a 3070 with a quad core cpu? Seems like a very unbalanced combination.
8 core TL-H and mobile Alder Lake cannot come soon enough.

My work is taking my 6 core desktop to the dump and giving me a 4 core laptop as an upgrade. It comes with a whole 2 USB ports! But at least it says i7 on the box now.

 

[coercitiv]

My work is taking my 6 core desktop to the dump and giving me a 4 core laptop as an upgrade. It comes with a whole 2 USB ports! But at least it says i7 on the box now.

It's not about benchmarks anymore, it's about how technology enables solutions for real-world problems. Intel had a problem and your company solved it!