Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 at 1333Mhz

[mcrooster]

I was looking at getting an E6600 a while back when Intel released the P35, it was an attractive option because you could run the cpu at 1333 Mhz instead of 1066Mhz with everything else running at stock timings and without a voltage increase. Then intel came out with the E6850 that runs at 3 Ghz which i believe is the same chip as the E6600 just set to run at 1333 Mhz stock from the factory, good way for intel to make some extra $$$ for nothing, anyway my question is does the Q6600 run at 1333 Mhz without a voltage increase like the E6600 and if so then why would ANYBODY buy the E6850 given that its the same price as the Q6600???
4 x 3Ghz cores vs 2 x 3Ghz cores, am i missing something here?

 

[nCred]

Because many people can run the e6850 at 3.6 ghz without increasing voltage, and it can be overclocked to 4 ghz on air while very few e6600 could be clocked that high.

 

[jjmIII]

Ya, my Q6600 'GO' chip is at 70, 66, 66, 70C (CoreTemp 0.95) with all four cores loaded with Orthos. This is at default speeds w/ OEM HSF.

I better put some mack-daddy cooling on before I set it at ~1333bus.

What temps are others getting with OEM HSF and full load???

EDIT: Kinda weird, set the bus to ~300 and left everything else alone.....and the temps went DOWN! Now 62, 58, 57, 62C under 100% load.

 

[MarcVenice]

Well mcrooster, only 1% of the PC users actually overclocks So that's why.

 

[mcrooster]

I guess i havnt made my question very clear, ill make it simple -
Does the Q6600 (quad core one) run at 1333 Mhz without a voltage increase like the E6600 (dual core one) does, if not is this because of a lack of voltage or because of excess heat.
If it does then id rather have a Q6600 with 4 cores running at 3 Ghz than an E6850 with 2 cores running at 3.6 Ghz (overclocked of course).

 

[swtethan]

Originally posted by: mcrooster
I guess i havnt made my question very clear, ill make it simple -
Does the Q6600 (quad core one) run at 1333 Mhz without a voltage increase like the E6600 (dual core one) does, if not is this because of a lack of voltage or because of excess heat.
If it does then id rather have a Q6600 with 4 cores running at 3 Ghz than an E6850 with 2 cores running at 3.6 Ghz (overclocked of course).

or..... you could get a q6600 running at 3.6ghz


VVVVVVVVV

 

[jjmIII]

Does the Q6600 (quad core one) run at 1333 Mhz without a voltage increase

Mine does.....even under dual Orthos.

 

[mcrooster]

Thats cool jjmIII, whats your temps like at 3Ghz ??? i would have to imagine they would be getting a tad on the high side?

 

[cmdrdredd]

Keep an eye on your PWM temp because high temps in that area can cause BSODs at otherwise stable FSB/CPU overclocks with Quad CPUs on some P35 boards.

 

[kzrssk]

Originally posted by: jjmIII

Does the Q6600 (quad core one) run at 1333 Mhz without a voltage increase

Mine does.....even under dual Orthos.

What's your stepping? I just got mine in from Newegg today, and I'm hoping to be able to pull off a bump to 333*9 on stock cooling lmao.

 

[Don66]

Long but interesting reading...Mod your chip for 1333

 

[Trevante]

Originally posted by: mcrooster
why would ANYBODY buy the E6850 given that its the same price as the Q6600???
4 x 3Ghz cores vs 2 x 3Ghz cores, am i missing something here?

Before you even get into the issue of which is faster, you have to consider what the CPU is going to be used for. Sure you could have 4 x 3hz, but if you're not doing anything that actually uses those 4 cores, what would be the point? You'd just have a hotter processor that you're not fully utilizing. And like others said, the E6850 can easily be overclocked higher than a Q6600.

 

[solofly]

Originally posted by: kzrssk

Originally posted by: jjmIII

Does the Q6600 (quad core one) run at 1333 Mhz without a voltage increase

Mine does.....even under dual Orthos.

What's your stepping? I just got mine in from Newegg today, and I'm hoping to be able to pull off a bump to 333*9 on stock cooling lmao.

G0 stepping of Q6600 at 333x9 at 1.1volts under load and 1.14v at idle. How's that for voltage? ... to be fair I am using Ultra120 eXtreme, an amazing cooler.

 

[jjmIII]

Originally posted by: mcrooster
Thats cool jjmIII, whats your temps like at 3Ghz ??? i would have to imagine they would be getting a tad on the high side?

Yes, at 3ghz with dual Orthos and OEM HSF, CoreTemp 0.95 reads 69, 65, 65, 69C....again, default voltage and OEM HSF.

I'm on an Abit IP35-E with an Antec EarthWatts 430W power supply. I get big vdroop under full load......1.144V according to cpu-z 1.40.5 (default V is 1.2375).

 

[jjmIII]

What's your stepping? I just got mine in from Newegg today, and I'm hoping to be able to pull off a bump to 333*9 on stock cooling lmao.

Ya, 'GO' here too.....333*9 is possible on OEM air.

 

[ViRGE]

A lot of your ability to get away with 3ghz is going to depend on the voltage of the chip you get; blind luck in other words. My B3 does 3ghz on stock voltage, but it also requires a good cooler(Tuniq Tower) just to keep temps below 70C.

 

[Laminator]

Not every E6600 will do 3.0GHz on stock voltage. I need 1.3v in the BIOS to get to 3.0GHz and be completely stable for prolonged torture testing.

 

[VirtualLarry]

Originally posted by: mcrooster
I guess i havnt made my question very clear, ill make it simple -
Does the Q6600 (quad core one) run at 1333 Mhz without a voltage increase like the E6600 (dual core one) does, if not is this because of a lack of voltage or because of excess heat.
If it does then id rather have a Q6600 with 4 cores running at 3 Ghz than an E6850 with 2 cores running at 3.6 Ghz (overclocked of course).

If you run non-multithreaded apps, that 3.6Ghz CPU is going to be faster than that 3Ghz CPU. Keep that in mind. Since many apps still aren't multithreaded, that may be the reason why so many people would prefer to go the E6850 route.
Plus, quad-cores run hotter and are a PITA to deal with the cooling.