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***Intel Core 2 Duo Processor E7200 2.53GHz 1066MHz 3MB LGA775 CPU, Retail***

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Originally posted by: secretanchitman
Originally posted by: Pats2005
Originally posted by: mharr7
Goodbye E8400, Hello E7200. This is the chip thats going into my new build!
Kickass chip.
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E7200 > E8400 ?

Any comparisons... ?
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yeah i'd like to see them too...i would imagine that the E8400 would be faster than the E7200.
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Here's a review of the E7200 by xbitlabs.com and they do compare the E7200 to the E8200.

Wolfdale for Economical Enthusiasts: Core 2 Duo E7200 Review

(Conclusion:
I believe it won?t be too much to say that Intel prepared another remarkable product. From the user standpoint, the main advantage of Core 2 Duo E7200 is the fact that its launch reduced the cost of a new CPU with 45nm core. As a result, the new processor that came to replace Core 2 Duo E4700 raises the performance bar for mainstream Intel processors quite noticeably. Of course, it is not faster than Core 2 Duo E8000, losing about 10% to it, but it is significantly faster than Core 2 Duo E6550 and is just a little behind Core 2 Duo E6750. Moreover, Core 2 Duo E7200 boasts great overclocking potential and is capable of hitting frequencies close to 4GHz with just a few simple tricks.)


 
Originally posted by: Pats2005
Originally posted by: mharr7
Goodbye E8400, Hello E7200. This is the chip thats going into my new build!
Kickass chip.
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E7200 > E8400 ?

Any comparisons... ?
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E8400 > E7200

E8600 > E8400 > E7300 > E7200

E8600
10 X multiplier
6mb L2 cache
333mhz FSB
3300mhz
~4.4ghz oc
$271
$299
aug 1

E8400
9 X multiplier
6mb L2 cache
333mhz FSB
3000mhz
~4.1-4.2ghz oc
$183
$199
jan 16

E7300
10 X multiplier
3mb L2 cache
266mhz FSB
2666mhz
4.0-4.2ghz oc
$148
$170
june - aug 1?

E7200
9.5 X multiplier
3mb L2 cache
266mhz FSB
2530mhz
3.8-4.1ghz oc
$133
$146
april 28

http://en.expreview.com/2008/0...enom-x3-8600-who-wins/

http://techgage.com/article/in...new_budget_superstar/8

http://xbitlabs.com/articles/c...ay/core2duo-e7200.html


Originally posted by: deepinya
or get the e8400 for 189.99

http://www.newegg.com/Product/...x?Item=N82E16819115037
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+1
:beer:


 
Originally posted by: Serradifalco
How will this cpu oc with the memory in my sig?
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Your RAM is fine. Running 1:1, 400 FSB with the 9.5x multi of the E7200 puts you at 3.8ghz. 425 FSB puts you at 4ghz. I'd be hard pressed to think you'd get much more OC out of this chip based on the early reviews. In either case, your RAM will run those just fine at CAS4 timings.
 
Originally posted by: Fayd
Originally posted by: Extelleron
Not a very interesting product at that price range.

Doesn't overclock as well as the E8400 and has 1/2 the L2 cache, yet is only a bit cheaper. IMO it would be foolish not to spend a little more and get either an E8400 or a Q6600.
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meh... i'd be moving from an e4400 to an e7200. it's a good change imo.

but i'll be waiting till prices come down as well.
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I'm just curious, what sort of improvement do you expect going from an E4400 to an E7200?

I just got an E4500 with a Fry's combo for $99.99 plus tax, and I sold the motherboard on eBay for a net price of about $25, putting the cost of the E4500 at about $83. I can run it at 3.33GHz (10x333MHz) with a reduced CPU multiplier (available in the BIOS on my Gigabyte G31 MicroATX motherboard). I'm using an Arctic Cooling Alpine 7 cooler and default voltage. The only problem from my perspective is the power consumption--it consumes an extra 19 Watts if I overclock it that high. I've got it in a system with a GeForce 9600GT--not the fastest video card in the world.

The E7200 has 1MB more cache, and I suppose I could run it at 4GHz on a Gigabyte P35 ATX motherboard with a 400MHz FSB (I don't think the Gigabyte G31 MicroATX motherboard can handle a bus speed like that). So I'm looking at about $53 extra for the CPU and about $20-30 extra for the motherboard (plus any extra I'd spend for a better cooler, like an Arctic Cooling Freezer 7 Pro). Maybe the power consumption would be even less with a 45nm CPU (but it would take a long time to save $83 on my electric bills). I haven't seen any performance benchmarks for overclocked processors running at 4GHz. I looked at the one that compares an E7200 to an E8400 both set to 7x333MHz to compare cache performance (3MB vs. 6MB), and the verdict is that the difference is not too significant, except in 3D games and WinRAR (about 15%). How much difference would an extra 1MB cache make?

I think an upgrade to an E8400 would be a lot better, but what do you think?
 
Jiffer- e8400 with 3ghz, 6mb of cache and low power consumption make it a real winner. Your 9600gt will bottleneck you so the jump to an e7200 is not worth it. Now if you were running 9800's in sli then I say make the jump to an e8400.
 
Originally posted by: jiffer
Originally posted by: Fayd
Originally posted by: Extelleron
Not a very interesting product at that price range.

Doesn't overclock as well as the E8400 and has 1/2 the L2 cache, yet is only a bit cheaper. IMO it would be foolish not to spend a little more and get either an E8400 or a Q6600.
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meh... i'd be moving from an e4400 to an e7200. it's a good change imo.

but i'll be waiting till prices come down as well.
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I'm just curious, what sort of improvement do you expect going from an E4400 to an E7200?

I just got an E4500 with a Fry's combo for $99.99 plus tax, and I sold the motherboard on eBay for a net price of about $25, putting the cost of the E4500 at about $83. I can run it at 3.33GHz (10x333MHz) with a reduced CPU multiplier (available in the BIOS on my Gigabyte G31 MicroATX motherboard). I'm using an Arctic Cooling Alpine 7 cooler and default voltage. The only problem from my perspective is the power consumption--it consumes an extra 19 Watts if I overclock it that high. I've got it in a system with a GeForce 9600GT--not the fastest video card in the world.

The E7200 has 1MB more cache, and I suppose I could run it at 4GHz on a Gigabyte P35 ATX motherboard with a 400MHz FSB (I don't think the Gigabyte G31 MicroATX motherboard can handle a bus speed like that). So I'm looking at about $53 extra for the CPU and about $20-30 extra for the motherboard (plus any extra I'd spend for a better cooler, like an Arctic Cooling Freezer 7 Pro). Maybe the power consumption would be even less with a 45nm CPU (but it would take a long time to save $83 on my electric bills). I haven't seen any performance benchmarks for overclocked processors running at 4GHz. I looked at the one that compares an E7200 to an E8400 both set to 7x333MHz to compare cache performance (3MB vs. 6MB), and the verdict is that the difference is not too significant, except in 3D games and WinRAR (about 15%). How much difference would an extra 1MB cache make?

I think an upgrade to an E8400 would be a lot better, but what do you think?
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I think you are missing the point here... we just like to play. This is our adult playground! I know the slide at the next park is only 1 ft higher but I still want to give it a go! I won't see any improvement over my 3Ghz e4300, but I will get a thrill out of tweaking the e7200. I am paying for the thrill... not necessarily for the huge improvemnt in performance.

I remember as a young man looking through the computers listed in Computer Shopper Magazine and fantasizing about how much better my life would be if I owned one of those! We play a few games, surf the net, and do homework. How much better do you really think this cpu would perform? The bottom line is I want one. I want to go down that 1 ft taller slide!

 
Originally posted by: Damainman
Is the E4600 for 99 bucks in-store pick-up only at Micro Center competitive in this mix?
http://www.microcenter.com/sin...tml?product_id=0287625
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Depends on what you want it for. If you just want a cheap-but-decent chip, then sure it is. If you want to overclock on an older motherboard that doesn't take to high FSB, then sure it is.

If you want a really high overclocker, then the E7200 may be better. If you want higher stock performance, the E7200 is better.

Originally posted by: Serradifalco
I think you are missing the point here... we just like to play. This is our adult playground! I know the slide at the next park is only 1 ft higher but I still want to give it a go! I won't see any improvement over my 3Ghz e4300, but I will get a thrill out of tweaking the e7200. I am paying for the thrill... not necessarily for the huge improvemnt in performance.

I remember as a young man looking through the computers listed in Computer Shopper Magazine and fantasizing about how much better my life would be if I owned one of those! We play a few games, surf the net, and do homework. How much better do you really think this cpu would perform? The bottom line is I want one. I want to go down that 1 ft taller slide!
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That was awesome! I can just imagine the confused look on my wife's face when I tell her that I bought this chip "because I wanted to do down that 1' taller slide." LMAO!

At $136 shipped, I may have to go down that 1' taller slide. Just to check it out.
 
Originally posted by: Zap
Originally posted by: Damainman
Is the E4600 for 99 bucks in-store pick-up only at Micro Center competitive in this mix?
http://www.microcenter.com/sin...tml?product_id=0287625
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Depends on what you want it for. If you just want a cheap-but-decent chip, then sure it is. If you want to overclock on an older motherboard that doesn't take to high FSB, then sure it is.

If you want a really high overclocker, then the E7200 may be better. If you want higher stock performance, the E7200 is better.

Originally posted by: Serradifalco
I think you are missing the point here... we just like to play. This is our adult playground! I know the slide at the next park is only 1 ft higher but I still want to give it a go! I won't see any improvement over my 3Ghz e4300, but I will get a thrill out of tweaking the e7200. I am paying for the thrill... not necessarily for the huge improvemnt in performance.

I remember as a young man looking through the computers listed in Computer Shopper Magazine and fantasizing about how much better my life would be if I owned one of those! We play a few games, surf the net, and do homework. How much better do you really think this cpu would perform? The bottom line is I want one. I want to go down that 1 ft taller slide!
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That was awesome! I can just imagine the confused look on my wife's face when I tell her that I bought this chip "because I wanted to do down that 1' taller slide." LMAO!

At $136 shipped, I may have to go down that 1' taller slide. Just to check it out.
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OK, I went down the 1' taller slide from Newegg after reading some initial user reviews. It seems with a good mb, ram and air cooler 4Ghz is definitely a good possibility! I have the mb and ram. I will buy this cooler. You can usually get it at Ewiz.com for $23 shipped if you wait a couple days. So for $158 total, I will have a cpu that clock for clock is about 10% slower than an e8500!

Check this out!

Brolloks went nuts with his!
 
I changed my mind on the cooler. I want something with better performance. Any recommendations would be appreciated! I would like to keep it under $50.00. I want something that will last me through the next couple of upgrades.
 
Originally posted by: Serradifalco
I changed my mind on the cooler. I want something with better performance. Any recommendations would be appreciated! I would like to keep it under $50.00. I want something that will last me through the next couple of upgrades.
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Tuniq 120 can be had for $45 or so at newegg.
 
Almost ordered one but determined this minor upgrade will last me another 12-15 months until Nehlaham processors show up in reasonable prices. So I got an E8400 instead with the G.Skill 4GB memory deal for 79.99. I am not much of an overclocker anymore and havent been for nearly a decade 🙁

 
I just received my e7200 fro Newegg today! The box came in perfect condition as always from the Egg! I am just waiting on my new cooler before I try it out. I can't wait!
 
Originally posted by: jiffer
Originally posted by: Fayd
Originally posted by: Extelleron
Not a very interesting product at that price range.

Doesn't overclock as well as the E8400 and has 1/2 the L2 cache, yet is only a bit cheaper. IMO it would be foolish not to spend a little more and get either an E8400 or a Q6600.
Click to expand...

meh... i'd be moving from an e4400 to an e7200. it's a good change imo.

but i'll be waiting till prices come down as well.
Click to expand...
I'm just curious, what sort of improvement do you expect going from an E4400 to an E7200?

I just got an E4500 with a Fry's combo for $99.99 plus tax, and I sold the motherboard on eBay for a net price of about $25, putting the cost of the E4500 at about $83. I can run it at 3.33GHz (10x333MHz) with a reduced CPU multiplier (available in the BIOS on my Gigabyte G31 MicroATX motherboard). I'm using an Arctic Cooling Alpine 7 cooler and default voltage. The only problem from my perspective is the power consumption--it consumes an extra 19 Watts if I overclock it that high. I've got it in a system with a GeForce 9600GT--not the fastest video card in the world.

The E7200 has 1MB more cache, and I suppose I could run it at 4GHz on a Gigabyte P35 ATX motherboard with a 400MHz FSB (I don't think the Gigabyte G31 MicroATX motherboard can handle a bus speed like that). So I'm looking at about $53 extra for the CPU and about $20-30 extra for the motherboard (plus any extra I'd spend for a better cooler, like an Arctic Cooling Freezer 7 Pro). Maybe the power consumption would be even less with a 45nm CPU (but it would take a long time to save $83 on my electric bills). I haven't seen any performance benchmarks for overclocked processors running at 4GHz. I looked at the one that compares an E7200 to an E8400 both set to 7x333MHz to compare cache performance (3MB vs. 6MB), and the verdict is that the difference is not too significant, except in 3D games and WinRAR (about 15%). How much difference would an extra 1MB cache make?

I think an upgrade to an E8400 would be a lot better, but what do you think?
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i'm a cheapass. i expect a cheap upgrade.

my E4400 never reliably hit 3 ghz. i'm a noob OCer, so that's probably the problem. i never did try changing the strap, so i should probably do that before i discount it completely.

i dont really want any more than 3-3.5 ghz... but 45nm will reduce the load wattage significantly. it's part of my overall change towards a lower wattage PC. also included in this change is (g80) 8800GTS ---> HD3870.

 
really this is pretty much the best bang for the buck cpu out right now, stock and overclocked.

with the E2180 for $70.00 being also a excellent deal in its price range and the

E8400 for $190.00 ish also being a great deal

you really cant go wrong right now with all these cpu's right now

if your price range is less than $100.00 E2180

http://www.newegg.com/Product/...x?Item=N82E16819116052

$100.00 to $150.00 E7200

http://www.newegg.com/Product/...x?Item=N82E16819115052

$150.00 to $200.00 E8400

http://www.newegg.com/Product/...x?Item=N82E16819115037

and if you multitask and use software that can take advantage of a quad core cpu, the Q6600 aint bad for $215.00 shipped.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/...x?Item=N82E16819115017
 
Originally posted by: Fayd
my E4400 never reliably hit 3 ghz. i'm a noob OCer, so that's probably the problem. i never did try changing the strap, so i should probably do that before i discount it completely.
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What motherboard do you have? The BSEL 1066FSB mod is pretty darn easy to do.
 
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