"Intel Confidential" CPU purchased

[aigomorla]

oops... i did mis read your post... my bad tal

I have to agree with Tal... each die is unique.

 

[JFAMD]

No it isn't, if that was the case there would be no such thing as die harvesting... when you make a wafer every single die is unique.

What I meant was that the design is identical for every die on the wafer. The chemical/metal properties and the process is what ends up making each die different.

Each die is unique when it comes OFF the wafer.

 

[uli2000]

I used to work for a guy as a teenager who built systems with 486 and Pentium I ES' he got from some "contacts" in Intel. I remember going with him a few times to fast food resturants near an Intel plant in Chandler, AZ where cash was exchanged in the parking lot for said chips from engineers on their lunch breaks.

 

[Shmee]

Hey, thanks for the advice, and, just to clarify, I do have this sample 100% legit. I met someone online who works for intel, asked him if I could get a sample, and was able to. Simple as that. I will ask him for further advice on getting a retail, just to make sure everything is fine in the future.

 

[Gillbot]

Hey, thanks for the advice, and, just to clarify, I do have this sample 100% legit. I met someone online who works for intel, asked him if I could get a sample, and was able to. Simple as that. I will ask him for further advice on getting a retail, just to make sure everything is fine in the future.

If you don't have an NDA agreement with intel, it's not "legit".

 

[aigomorla]

Hey, thanks for the advice, and, just to clarify, I do have this sample 100% legit.

Did u sign an NDA?

*go hugz my NDA documents*

^ remember this comment??

If you don't have an NDA agreement with intel, it's not "legit".

yeah... if its not from intel straight... its not legit.

:T

 

[JFAMD]

I wouldn't necessarily say that. Once the product has been launched, you would not need an NDA.

The key is did the person that give you the processor have the right to give you the processor.

I have a room full of samples, and once a product launches, I can give them out, at my discretion if I believe it will drive more business for us.

Prior to launch, it is all NDA.

And don't ask, I am not giving them away to you.

 

[Phynaz]

yeah... if its not from intel straight... its not legit.

Actually that's not entirely true. If you have pre-release product from an OEM that is under NDA, then you do not need an NDA with Intel (or AMD).

 

[Gillbot]

I wouldn't necessarily say that. Once the product has been launched, you would not need an NDA.

The key is did the person that give you the processor have the right to give you the processor.

I have a room full of samples, and once a product launches, I can give them out, at my discretion if I believe it will drive more business for us.

Prior to launch, it is all NDA.

And don't ask, I am not giving them away to you.

So if we don't ask then you will? ()

 

[JFAMD]

As a rule, the first time I give someone free samples, the floodgates open up and you can't put that toothpaste back in the tube. We do find non-profit organizations that we will give old processors to from time to time. But even that become logistically difficult because of some of the rules that need to be followed.

 

[Gillbot]

I was being facetious.

I am grateful for samples I receive but I generally don't ask for them because of the reasons you stated. Everyone wants to know where to get free stuff and the pestering never ends.

This is the main reason I no longer review hardware like I used to. The amount of work vs. minimal gains from reviews just isn't currently worth it to me.

 

[Markfw]

I was being facetious.

I am grateful for samples I receive but I generally don't ask for them because of the reasons you stated. Everyone wants to know where to get free stuff and the pestering never ends.

This is the main reason I no longer review hardware like I used to. The amount of work vs. minimal gains from reviews just isn't currently worth it to me.

I would in a heartbeat ! In fact I got a free motherboard, but I cooked it with my 1090T.

But, JFAMD, if you do want to give me one, I would not sell it, and I would review it (like I do all the stuff I buy anyway).

 

[Martimus]

And don't ask, I am not giving them away to you.

How about if I say, "Pretty Please"? With a cherry on top?

I could get my little girl to look all sad and act like it really upsets her that I am not getting one. She always does that to me whenever she doesn't get what she wants.

By the way, I am also just joking. I would love a new processor, but I can go buy it without a problem. The biggest reason I haven't built a new computer recently, is because the Video card I want has actually gone up in price since it came out last year; and I just can't justify paying more than something was worth in the past when its value will plummet in a few months anyway.

 

[aigomorla]

Actually that's not entirely true. If you have pre-release product from an OEM that is under NDA, then you do not need an NDA with Intel (or AMD).

oh you mean like a prepackaged sample Dell?

Yeah then you sign NDA's with Dell.
But no company will give you a preproduction sample on anything without a NDA on file.

That is like the company asking you to rip its technology.

I wouldn't necessarily say that. Once the product has been launched, you would not need an NDA.

The key is did the person that give you the processor have the right to give you the processor.

I have a room full of samples, and once a product launches, I can give them out, at my discretion if I believe it will drive more business for us.

Prior to launch, it is all NDA.

And don't ask, I am not giving them away to you.

ROFLROFL.... stating this is like asking to get mob'd.

But guys.... lemme add something..

Rule of Thumb:
You should only ask for samples if: - you know you are worth it... (Sounds like a ego statement, but its true..)
However if you are worth it: you wont be needing to ask for samples, because u will be given one..

If you have to ask for the samples... 90% of the time it will be NO... unless the vendor has had its eyes on you.

So dont bother emailing a vendor for samples, unless u have a fairly decent brag sheet to present to them.

 

[JFAMD]

We provide them for the following:

1. Help partners get platforms up and validated
2. Help ISVs validate/tune applications
3. Support large bid opportunities (ie. if you are going to buy 1000 parts, I can spot you the first 2)
4. Support business development (seeding new customers through our OEMs)
5. Support of hardware partner benchmarking

Anything outside of this list needs management approval (and I actually no longer manage that, I am in product marketing now). And partner benchmarking is NOT seeing how fast you can overclock it. I know who the customers are.

 

[Gillbot]

I used to get them through work for testing when we built custom data acquisition systems.

I used to do hardware reviews but it took too much of my time and when compared to the small amount of gear I got, it simply wasn't worth it to me.

Anymore, retail is the way to go IMHO. Let every one else work out the bugs and get a ready to go final product.

 

[CTho9305]

Nobody is worried about an ES being the production revision, but sent out before all the final production screens were added to the test process to catch the more subtle failures?