Intel can do no wrong! Check out the new AT review on Q6600 GO stepping.

Markfw

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Yup, about 5% less power, and a 100 mhz better OC. The charts we have (in the Q6600 OC thread) suggest 200 mhz better. As I suspected, not earth shattering, but they are better.
 

pm

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Every time that I see the S-Spec name "SLACR" I just have to smile.

"Is the SLACR speedy? Is the the SLACR cooler?"
 

Viper GTS

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This makes me feel a lot better about being "stuck" with my B3 (that I got on the July 4th Fry's deal). I've been hovering over the "buy" button on G0's for a while but I'm glad I didn't do it.

Mine does 3 GHz @ 1.288/1.248 (idle/load cpu-z reported), I suppose I should learn to be content.

Viper GTS
 

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"Intel can do no wrong! Check out the new AT review on Q6600 GO stepping. Even with a minimal performance and heat benefit over B3, Intel gets good review!"

Yawn...get thee fanboy self out of here. People like you are just annoying and that's coming from a long-time AMD user (until recently). Of course it gets a good review, it's still a damn good processor. The G0 is obviously not meant for existing B3 owners as an upgrade option. Rather, it's meant for anyone upgrading to the Q6600 for the first time. This is a STEPPING, not a brand new architecture as they very clearly indicate here: "it's worthwhile to keep expectations in line with reality. If you're looking for a huge change in power consumption/overclocking headroom, you may have to wait for Intel's 45nm Penryn cores."

Actually just upgraded from an X2 4600+ system to a B3 last week...quite glad to see there were no significant improvements in the G0.
 

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I read it as a very fair and clean review. For a new build, it's a no brainer to get a G0 revision. But if you already own a B3 Q6600 or B2 E6x00 CPUs, I see no reason to upgrade, either. (Be it a dual or a quad) I read some of the threads around @XS, and those folks are pumping crazy voltages to these G0 E6850/Q6600.. which worries me. (not that it's my business) After dealing with many C2D and C2Q, I would be hesitant to give more than 1.50V actual voltages if I were to keep the system for long term.
 

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Originally posted by: pm
Every time that I see the S-Spec name "SLACR" I just have to smile.

"Is the SLACR speedy? Is the the SLACR cooler?"

no the G0 is a slacker. So you need to kick it in the butt to get it to do some awesome work. :p
 

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Anand didn't even tell us which HSF they used to cool the processor, what a major over sight.
 

nyker96

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I think probably because everyone already knew so much about this chip they just did a "slacker" job on it :]
 

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Going on the stupidly over the top title of this thread I expected more. Much more.

It falls in line with pretty much what everyone expected. Its not earth shattering by any means.

Don't want to sound harsh, but the OP might want a selection of clean underwear ready when penryn hits.
 

zsdersw

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Sounds to me like the OP played the expectations game incorrectly.. and, not surprisingly, lost.
 

Modelworks

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Intel can do no wrong ?
Don't you know that Anand sold himself to intel for billions of dollars that they then replaced him with a robot and all the other people doing reviews now are clones !
 

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someone please stop Intel! Well I hope AMD or someone else can become competitive once more or Intel's nose going to keep pointing to the sky and we all know what that feels like back in the days of 386/486/Pentium I.
 

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Originally posted by: nyker96
someone please stop Intel! Well I hope AMD or someone else can become competitive once more or Intel's nose going to keep pointing to the sky and we all know what that feels like back in the days of 386/486/Pentium I.
? I owned a new pentium 1
 

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Originally posted by: Viper GTS
This makes me feel a lot better about being "stuck" with my B3 (that I got on the July 4th Fry's deal). I've been hovering over the "buy" button on G0's for a while but I'm glad I didn't do it.

Mine does 3 GHz @ 1.288/1.248 (idle/load cpu-z reported), I suppose I should learn to be content.

Viper GTS


Agreed. I'm at 3.06Ghz w/my B3 and am happy. After a week of hunting for G0's, I said screw it and just ordered...
 

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Originally posted by: SteelSix
Originally posted by: Viper GTS
This makes me feel a lot better about being "stuck" with my B3 (that I got on the July 4th Fry's deal). I've been hovering over the "buy" button on G0's for a while but I'm glad I didn't do it.

Mine does 3 GHz @ 1.288/1.248 (idle/load cpu-z reported), I suppose I should learn to be content.

Viper GTS


Agreed. I'm at 3.06Ghz w/my B3 and am happy. After a week of hunting for G0's, I said screw it and just ordered...

How come you gave up? I only had to wait a week.
 

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Originally posted by: Modelworks
Intel can do no wrong ?
Don't you know that Anand sold himself to intel for billions of dollars that they then replaced him with a robot and all the other people doing reviews now are clones !
I object to that! I'm not a clone.

I'm a robot.;)
 

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Originally posted by: Serradifalco
Link

Title and link tell the story.

I wonder if AT's review didn't show a minimal performance and heat benefit over B3, and Intel gets meh review, would you have been as nearly miffed? Really dude, it's a stepping, not a leap in manufacturing process or architecture. Plain and simple, it has slightly lower power consumption, and may or may not o/c better than a B3. YMMV. What's not to like? It's not bad news is it?
 

cmdrdredd

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Originally posted by: keysplayr2003
Originally posted by: Serradifalco
Link

Title and link tell the story.

I wonder if AT's review didn't show a minimal performance and heat benefit over B3, and Intel gets meh review, would you have been as nearly miffed? Really dude, it's a stepping, not a leap in manufacturing process or architecture. Plain and simple, it has slightly lower power consumption, and may or may not o/c better than a B3. YMMV. What's not to like? It's not bad news is it?

at least it isn't hotter, takes more power, overclocks worse and is slower. :laugh:
 
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Ok here is my first little test. Using two instances of Orthos:
http://www.loneclone.de/downloads/corestresstest.jpg

Man am I happy right now:
Core #0: 43°C Celsius
Core #1: 43°C Celsius
Core #2: 37°C Celsius
Core #3: 39°C Celsius

That's cooler than my P4 3.2 ghz IDLE temperature!!! Muahaha
The question now is: What can I expect when starting to overclock? I still don't have a water temperature sensor so I don't know if getting the CPU to 50+ °C will result in a water temperature of 50°C so I will wait till I have some water sensoring equipment.
But man this CPU feels like it flys!
I could still do image editing and other stuff whilst the two instances of Orthos stressed the CPU to 100% it still felt very responsive.

Ready2Go Watercooling Coolermaster Stacker Silver
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PK5 Deluxe Wifi
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Leadtek 8800GTS 640MB
 

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I have no dog in the fight but I have to agree that Intel is on a roll right now.

Hopefully AMD will come back hard with Barcelona.
 

BonzaiDuck

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Well, it helps me put things in perspective. I've got the B3 stepping.

I've measured my power consumption @ 3.2 Ghz 1.42V Vcore, and suddenly woke up to "where has all my money been going for the utility bills this month?" Two ways: 100-plus watts at load over idle power usage, and the AC bill. I wouldn't run my 2xORTHOS for 24 hours, but I ran a lot of 10-plus-hour tests with it. We've been kicking on the AC a lot lately, and the heatwave has exacerbated the problem . . . . . that is . . . . the problem of my over-clocked C2Q.

I just activated SpeedStep with my 3.2 setting, and . . . . it's rock-stable. I can IMAGINE my temperatures have improved -- I just don't know if it's worth my time and trouble to prove it.

But I can sure wait for the Penryn to come along, and then some . . . . anyway, winter's coming in a few months, and I can now break even between additional computing power-consumption and the heating bill.

This thing will warm up a 15'x15' room -- easy.
 

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Originally posted by: gigahertz20
Anand didn't even tell us which HSF they used to cool the processor, what a major over sight.

It is an Intel stock cooler. He cleared that up in one of the comments on the article.
 

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I love how the spirit of the title got mistook about three different ways.

It's also interesting to see some B3 owners bashing the G0 like "hah, see it only does another 100mhz, I feel much better". It's not like if you got a B3 your dong is smaller than those who got G0s. It's just an incremental stepping, happens all the time. We can't always hold out for the best, cuz then two weeks later there's another best. You made a purchase that at the time was just fine. No worries, nothing wrong with it. Should we all dump our 72" 1080i displays because there is now 1080p and content for it? Um, no. Your wang will not shrink, trust me.

And folks, that's 100mhz on the high end... there's a couple more benefits than just "zomg how hard can I rockz this chip with my $300 aftermarket cooling rig". Yeah it's fun to push the upper limit sometimes but that's not the ONLY reason someone might buy the G0.

I personally desire a G0 because I can moderately overclock and not have to worry as much about temps. It's easier to get a G0 to 3ghz than it is a B3. Not much, but still a bit easier. Not to mention the heat and energy savings, little that they may be. It's like which version of a program do you want to download... ver. 1.0 or ver. 1.04? 1.04 probably has some improvements over the original release. Yeah, think I'll take version 1.04.

Just my thoughts.