Intel BX is Compatible with Pentium III (Tualatin)

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VIA Hardware website has confirmed the talks about Intel BX chipset?s entire compatibility with Intel?s 0.13-micron CPUs based on the Tualatin core. The same thing is true for the mobile version of this chipset which is to be used with Mobile Pentium III (Tualatin) until Intel 830M (Almador) appears.
It doesn?t mean, however, that Pentium III (Tualatin) CPUs will be safely used on the older mainboards with the BX chipset: they don?t provide the necessary CPU voltage, and there have been no adapters with built-in power supply modifier for quite long now.
Now let us sum it all up:

The good old BX chipset supports Tualatin.
The chipsets from i815 series, which came out two years later than the BX, don?t.
This year i815 chipsets with B stepping came into being; they do support Tualatin.
We conclude that the i815 chipsets were deliberately deprived of Tualatin compatibility. Why? The reasons are quite understandable:
Intel needs to sell both processors and chipsets. The mainboard manufacturers strive to have the highest sales possible. VIA is also trying to sell as many chipsets as it can, so it has fallen in with Intel?s idea eagerly. Now it offers chipsets with Tualatin (Pro133T, Pro266T) support, though it could?ve implemented this support since the very first versions of Pro133 and Pro266. SiS is currently busy selling out its 635T and 633T chipsets and has nothing against it either. Indeed, who?d object to driving extra profits? We guess, none of the manufacturers would. From this point of view the AMD platform looks a bit better, as AMD doesn?t address itself selling chipsets. But this party is not that perfect as well.
A good example are KT133 and KT133A chipsets being almost 100% twins (though the first of them works at under-115MHz frequencies and the other one endures 160MHz and even more). Well, in the nearest future no pseudo-updates on this platform are expected.
Of course, business is a wicked game with no sentiments whatsoever, but such tricks as these pseudo-updated chipsets for new processors do embarrass the users.
 

Boogak

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Where's you find this? I couldn't see it at viahardware.com. Anyhow, if this is true, I can keep my BX6-2 another year or so... woooooooo!! What's the Tualatin's stock voltage? My mobo can go down to 1.3v, if a Tualatin runs at 1.2v like some have said, I don't see anything wrong with providing some extra juice.
 

Eug

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Posted before:

Opinion 1) Yes it's compatible with boards that will go that low.
Opinion 2) Yes it may run on some boards, but it would likely fry the chip even if 1.3 V was supported by the mobo.

I don't know who to believe. Either way I don't want to be the first guinea pig. :p
 

Rand

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I'm still somewhat doubtful until we see definitive proof that it is compatible with the BX chipset.
 

BFG10K

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OK, does anyone have any info on the new chipset that will support the Tualatin?
 

bacillus

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<< I'm still somewhat doubtful until we see definitive proof that it is compatible with the BX chipset. >>


I'm sure that there's an army of BX guinea pigs out there who will test it out &amp; report back!:)
 

shathal

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Urm - I would like where you got that form.

I was talkig to an Intel speciallist on Tualatin - we were discussing the possibility/feasability of CuMine -> Tualatin adapters (ended up agreeing that it was not feasable).

Anyway - there are quite a few other changes to Tualatin other than the Voltage-reqs - I would like to know how exactly VIA validated that? Also - I'd be curious to see how LONG that would work ... I doubt it would be reliable in the long run.

Mind giving us a www-link with an article or wherver you found this info? Thanks :D.
 

TravisBickle

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the time of the PIII is past. it doesn't offer enough with DDR. it's not worth paying the premium for a locked Intel chip and new motherboard for having a 0.13 processor 6 months before AMD release one. take a look around, Athlon4 and new DDR chipsets for it are a lot more exciting than Tualatins.
 

compuwiz1

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I have a BX Master here just laying for one. I am the ultimate guinea pig. :)
 

Degenerate

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it should be out in about a month or less. i might get one for my upgrade, then a compplety new sys end of year