Intel being sued over C2d

[wordsworm]

Originally posted by: waffleironhead

Originally posted by: taltamir
You know, most nurses that I Came across did display abnormal levels of incompetence... I mean, I looked like a freaking heroin addict when they finally managed to find the vein... (or a pin cushion, your choice)

You ever tried to to an intervenious injection before? It takes more skill than you may realise.

If it takes so much skill, how is it heroin addicts are able to do it so well, stoned, and with just one arm?

 

[BlueAcolyte]

Firefox FTW. What exactly is this lawsuit about anyway? The new IMC? The Core architecture itself?

 

[Aluvus]

Originally posted by: BlueAcolyte
Firefox FTW. What exactly is this lawsuit about anyway? The new IMC? The Core architecture itself?

The patent is related to speculative execution, and the lawsuit is specifically related to the Core microarchitecture. Intel and UW-M first talked to each other about this issue in 2001. Ars has a summary.

 

[Nemesis 1]

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6,560,775, Branch preparation, 5/6/2003 (with Feodor A. Gruzdov, Alexey P. Lizorkin, Yuli Kh. Sakhin, Evgeny Z. Stolyarsky, and Alexander M. Artymov).

6,516,463, Method for removing dependent store-load pair from critical path, 2/4/2003 (with Sergey K.Okunev and Vladimir Y. Volkonsky)

6,560,775, Branch preparation, 5/6/2003 (with Feodor A. Gruzdov, Alexey P. Lizorkin, Yuli Kh. Sakhin, Evgeny Z. Stolyarsky, and Alexander M. Artymov).

5,889,985, Array prefetch apparatus and method, 3/30/1999 (with Valeri G. Gorokhov, Feodor A. Grusdov, Yuli Kh. Sakhin, and Vladimir Y. Volkonski).

5,958,048, Architectural support for software pipelining of nested loop, 9/28/1999 (with Feodor A. Gruzdov, Yuli Kh. Sakhin, Vladimir S. Volin, and Vladimir Yu. Volkonski).


Patent RF 2184389, Method for pipelining of nested loop, 2002 (with V. Yu. Volkonskiy; V.G. Gorokhov; F.A. Gruzdov; A.K. Kim; A.Yu. Ostanevich).

Patent RF 2189630, Method and device for filtering interprocessor calls in multiprocessor computer systems, 2002 (with V.V. Tikhorskiy; A.K. Kim; M.L. Chudakov).

 

[waffleironhead]

Originally posted by: wordsworm

Originally posted by: waffleironhead

Originally posted by: taltamir
You know, most nurses that I Came across did display abnormal levels of incompetence... I mean, I looked like a freaking heroin addict when they finally managed to find the vein... (or a pin cushion, your choice)

You ever tried to to an intervenious injection before? It takes more skill than you may realise.

If it takes so much skill, how is it heroin addicts are able to do it so well, stoned, and with just one arm?

It is a skill! :laugh: Skill is improved by practice. :roll:

 

[waffleironhead]

Originally posted by: Aluvus

Originally posted by: BlueAcolyte
Firefox FTW. What exactly is this lawsuit about anyway? The new IMC? The Core architecture itself?

The patent is related to speculative execution, and the lawsuit is specifically related to the Core microarchitecture. Intel and UW-M first talked to each other about this issue in 2001. Ars has a summary.

That is pretty interesting article. So the uw approached intel with the idea, but couldnt hammer out terms, but then intel used the same sorta tech anyway. I can see the past relationship working against intel then. If they just happaned to create the same exact tech on their own they would still be liable but using the tech after being told about it is worse.

 

[taltamir]

Originally posted by: waffleironhead

Originally posted by: wordsworm

Originally posted by: waffleironhead

Originally posted by: taltamir
You know, most nurses that I Came across did display abnormal levels of incompetence... I mean, I looked like a freaking heroin addict when they finally managed to find the vein... (or a pin cushion, your choice)

You ever tried to to an intervenious injection before? It takes more skill than you may realise.

If it takes so much skill, how is it heroin addicts are able to do it so well, stoned, and with just one arm?

It is a skill! :laugh: Skill is improved by practice. :roll:

which is why the more experienced nurses (the ones who aren't college interns) get it with one shot every single time.
But that was quite a laugh about the heroin addicts, thank you wordsworm, you made my day.

 

[waffleironhead]

Originally posted by: taltamir

Originally posted by: waffleironhead

Originally posted by: wordsworm

Originally posted by: waffleironhead

Originally posted by: taltamir
You know, most nurses that I Came across did display abnormal levels of incompetence... I mean, I looked like a freaking heroin addict when they finally managed to find the vein... (or a pin cushion, your choice)

You ever tried to to an intervenious injection before? It takes more skill than you may realise.

If it takes so much skill, how is it heroin addicts are able to do it so well, stoned, and with just one arm?

It is a skill! :laugh: Skill is improved by practice. :roll:

which is why the more experienced nurses (the ones who aren't college interns) get it with one shot every single time.
But that was quite a laugh about the heroin addicts, thank you wordsworm, you made my day.

ZOOM... another one flys way over your head. Do I need to post a definition of the word MOST. hope not, because then it means your grasp of the english language is worse than a second graders. It was never a question of you saying you got a poor nurse. It was when you used the word most as in "most nurses that I Came across did display abnormal levels of incompetence" This is disparaging a whole group of people who work damn hard.

Get it?

This is my last post about this topic. Continue to be a bigot and lump all people of one kind together or dont.

 

[taltamir]

Do I need to explain the definition of "I came across"... almost every nurse I came across was an intern or some such who was doing it for a few weeks to a few monthes. occasionally I find get a nurse who was in the biz for years and they do fine.

I guess that makes me a bigot.

 

[Idontcare]

Originally posted by: wired247


but seriously folks


Intel will probably settle out of court, because they can out-lawyer just about anyone out there short of google, msft, etc.

They will most likely buy the patent for cheap, or they will just have their lawyers filibuster all day long until the little guy runs out of lawyer money.

This kind of thing happens quite a bit. You just can't stand up to the big guys, even if you have a patent on their entire operation.

In the industry it's called a "patent shake-down" and it is quite frequent and common with IP companies that are endearingly referred to as "patent trolls".

You are correct in asserting that the lawyers will likely make profits here as most patent troll companies are started/operated/ran by lawyers.

In fact most shake-down patent cases are done by "IP companies" who are operated by lawyers with the business model of buying obscure and questionably enforceable patents with the intent to "shake" some money out of a few "implied infringement" cases.

We only hear of the tip of the iceberg of this activity as mostly is settled before it even goes to court (going by what I learned from Texas Instruments legal dept while working there).

I have some 10 or 15 patents (approved vs pending, I don't keep track ot the total) at TI and was called in once to defend our patent position against a patent troll's claims of TI infringing their IP. Poor suckers walked away having their IP ruled invalid and unenforcable. Its a cost of doing business in their business model, like credit card defaults in the CC business.

It's all just business and its never personal, although some outside the companies involved occasionally take it personally.

 

[palladium]

Originally posted by: waffleironhead

Originally posted by: taltamir
You know, most nurses that I Came across did display abnormal levels of incompetence... I mean, I looked like a freaking heroin addict when they finally managed to find the vein... (or a pin cushion, your choice)

You ever tried to to an intervenious injection before? It takes more skill than you may realise.

Indeed it does.

 

[bryanW1995]

Originally posted by: Stoneburner
The inq? I don't believe this. Even if there were a patent case the judge would throw it out just because the INQ reported it.

LOL!