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FlameTail

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Didn't Intel say they have 4 compute centric customers for 18A?

Two of their names are known: Amazon and Microsoft. The other two names are kept secret.

I wonder who they might be.
 

KompuKare

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Would this have been the same board which for years kept pushing for short-termism exemplified by share buybacks?

Yes, there may have been some talk about AI and ML the last few years but surely the board having lived through Intel 14+++ and 10nm for show shipments should know not to take blustering talk seriously?

Hot-air and hyping Intel's next thing as being the greatest are surely pretty transparent at this stage, unless the board was born yesterday
 
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adroc_thurston

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If Intel's interim period lasts for 2 years, this would only assess we're indeed discussing about a rotting body (something I take for granted, but still).
No, Swan was an actual CEO since 2019.
But there was an interim period between BK resignation and his appointment as the Real Thing.
 

Gideon

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Interesting observation by Patrick Moorhead


What people aren’t really thinking through in their analysis on Pat Gelsinger’s departure is the suddenness:
-Back-dated to December 1.
-Not staying on until permanent replacement found.
-No advisory position.
-No board emeritus position.
Something changed and quickly and it is big.
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Exactly. There is zero chance this was planned and can only mean disagreement with the board. Likely over foundry.
 

desrever

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Interesting observation by Patrick Moorhead



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Wouldn't be surprised if it had something to do with the government money. Its just very sudden that Pat gets fired right after Chips act money finally gets approved.

My guess is the board expected Pat to be able to negotiate a better chip act deal along with everything else failing at Intel.
 
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Joe NYC

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It would be Trump vs. TSMC then, but I'm not sure who has more leverage. Without Intel, USA needs TSMC just as much as TSMC needs Big Brother to defend it from China. Trump pretends to be tough, but the guy folds like his cheap suits under pressure and will just issue a Xitter post claiming he won when in fact he lost.

Anyways, didn't want to turn this thread into P&N, so I'll end this side topic here.

Since the Intel Foundry is broke, and will most likely owe a refund of Chips Act money to the US government, Intel can sell the foundry to US Government for $1, and Trump assigns it to Elon Musk as another side quest.
 

jpiniero

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One thing they could do is make like GloFo and keep the foundry but don't fund future node development.
 

gdansk

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One thing they could do is make like GloFo and keep the foundry but don't fund future node development.
It'll flop too. TSMC did those nodes better too and can still do it cheaper due to scale.
They have to be like GloFo and find weird niches.
 
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Saylick

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Welp, that 5% increase when Pat's retirement was publicly announced is now in the rear view mirror as well, just like Pat himself. Not going to lie, I had queued up Intel stock purchases at $20 per share and would've been fine had the stock price fallen that low again, but now I'm not sure I want to be a part of this mess. Orders cancelled.
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Everyone please keep the political discourse pertinent to Intel. Most has been on point but let's leave the political figures themselves out of it where possible.

My commentary on push ups Pat getting canned:

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Some keep asking what he did wrong? Really?

5 will get you 10 that report based on 4 different sources, about his big mouth screwing up the discount from TSMC, was completely factual.

His foundry strategy is to date, a bottomless money pit.

He accelerated the brain drain like he was driving a funny car.

He could have intervened and stopped all of the punitive measures enacted against employees. Killing morale and encouraging malicious compliance are just some of the collateral damage to go along with the brain drain. The recent story about bringing back free coffee was surrealistic. What low grade imbecile came up with the idea of taking free food and drink away? What a clusterfudge he oversaw.