I don't follow your logic. Jaykihn's stance is that Golden Eagle is a p-core in the cove lineage and Copper Shark is an e-core. If he's wrong about Copper Shark being an e-core, wouldn't it make more sense to assume that ALL of his info is bad?
This is a good point. Panther lake and meteor lake have had poor cpu uplifts
It's more of a timeline issue than a core issue cause Titan is later than Razer Lake.
Panther Lake CPU uplift is fine tbh cause there are barely core change what's not fine is Lion Cove itself should have been more.
yeah.
Only that there isn't any.
No, the perf is there if it's on-target.
Uhh Golden Eagle is Arctic Wolf refresh to put it simply.
You skipped my point lol the base core for cougar aka lion should have been more than what it is. Intel has used a old core to derisk theirs process since like nearly 2010?
That was a long time ago tbh and at least the realized it soon enough otherwise PTL might have been delayed.
It was on Chinese platform
What could he possibly mean if he doesn't mean that golden eagle is the p-core?
Ah but that ruins the fun! 🙂
TTL is 2029 and probably.
Titan Lake might also be the first 14A product. Intel might not be confident the process can reach desktop clocks on its first iteration.
I don't think that's implied or likely. He would not call it E-Core for nothing. There is a P-Core but it's not known what's its codename (could well be a refresh of Griffin Cove as he proposed). The following was an answer to a question on what's the P-Core in Titan Lake called, IIRC (the question got deleted but I think it was about TTL - the only other thing it could be about was Serpent Lake anyway):
I don't think he said that either. As I said earlier, we were likely misunderstanding that "copper shark and golden eagle exist" tweet when we assumed it implies those two are a pair of (p&e) cores within a single product. Either they are two E-core iterations or one is on a different process for example or part of a refresh which prompted Intel to give it another codename.
Indeed...
Not necessarily - it's likely that the (Intel?) process node Titan Lake is gonna use that is to blame - or the core count, basically same as with Panther Lake - Titan Lake is likely a repeat of that. (I expect both the processors to have the same P-Core though).
From how I understand it's not that Razer Lake and Titan Lake are sisters in the same generation. Razer Lake is N generation (Core Ultra 500 likely) and Titan Lake is n+1 generation (Core Ultra 600 likely). However, TTL doesn't cover the whole portfolio, exactly in the same way as Panther Lake which lacks HX parts for example. So Intel will have to keep Razer Lake around for a second round as a substitute (perhaps in the form of a refresh) in paralel to replacing part of its lineup with TTL. Likely again in the HX segment (and desktop).
nyo.
