Insurgents means nothing, how about Saddamists

[miketheidiot]

Originally posted by: digiram
How about freedom fighters. That's what we would call our insurgents if we were invaded, while being fed propaganda about how corrupt our government is. Kind of remind me of a pretty good game called Freedom Fighters.

Thats what we called them in afghanistan i beleive.

*was not alive for afghanistan.

 

[miketheidiot]

Originally posted by: sandorski
Re support of the People: Even the American Revolutionaries didn't have the support of the People, they had approx 30% support

 

[Beowulf]

Originally posted by: Drift3r

Originally posted by: Beowulf

Originally posted by: Rainsford

Originally posted by: Infohawk
How about Iraqis?

I think we need to be more specific than that, because there ARE Iraqis that are helping us. The important question is what percentage they represent.

Religions: Muslim 97% (Shi'a 60%-65%, Sunni 32%-37%), Christian or other 3%
http://www.worldpress.org/profiles/Iraq.cfm?StartAt=8

So we know the Shi'a majority along with the Kurds want an election and the Sunni miniorty doesn't.Furthermore the Sunni's shared alot of the power in Saddam regime which now they won't have because they are not the majority the more attacks we see to disrupt the interim government.I don't know how to bring them onboard but even if they don't there will be a big percentage of Iraqi's wanting an election.

Then again the Shiites want a Islamic theocracy and they know they have the numbers to get what they want in a election. Oh and the Kurds joinied the Sunnis Arabs in calling for the elections to be held back along with Christian Iraqis because the voter turn out will favor the pro-Iranian/pro-Islamic Shiite radical loving mulahs. The Shiites are being low key because they will get what they want in the end or else it will be a freaking madhouse if they are denied. They'll do it the nice way and if it don't turn out the way they want it to turn out then they'll raise hell in the South. All signs point to them gearing up for the elections and for a violence if need be if they feel like they have been robbed in the elections.


http://story.news.yahoo.com/ne...raq_election_surprises


So your choices are a radical Islamic Shiite goverment controling Iraq or radical Sunni goverment along with former Baathists playing a minor role in goverment if any. The Kurds well they have their part of Iraq wrapped up but they don't have the numbers to effect a election not to mention that they are loathed by both Shiite Arabs and Sunni Arabs in Iraq.

Did you read the article?

But when the Shiite clerical leadership refused to delay the balloting, the Kurds waffled, claiming they never intended to agree to a postponement and they were ready for elections whenever they occur. The Iraqi National Accord, Prime Minister Ayad Allawi's party, took part in the meeting that produced the call for the delay.

Sure the Kurds may want some extra time but its unlikely to happen.Now the Sunnis are in the hot seat because they will lose the power they had under Saddams regime.Of course we can all sit down here and discuss things that may never happen but it seems hellbent that the election will go down.

 

[Drift3r]

Originally posted by: Beowulf

Originally posted by: Drift3r

Originally posted by: Beowulf

Originally posted by: Rainsford

Originally posted by: Infohawk
How about Iraqis?

I think we need to be more specific than that, because there ARE Iraqis that are helping us. The important question is what percentage they represent.

Religions: Muslim 97% (Shi'a 60%-65%, Sunni 32%-37%), Christian or other 3%
http://www.worldpress.org/profiles/Iraq.cfm?StartAt=8

So we know the Shi'a majority along with the Kurds want an election and the Sunni miniorty doesn't.Furthermore the Sunni's shared alot of the power in Saddam regime which now they won't have because they are not the majority the more attacks we see to disrupt the interim government.I don't know how to bring them onboard but even if they don't there will be a big percentage of Iraqi's wanting an election.

Then again the Shiites want a Islamic theocracy and they know they have the numbers to get what they want in a election. Oh and the Kurds joinied the Sunnis Arabs in calling for the elections to be held back along with Christian Iraqis because the voter turn out will favor the pro-Iranian/pro-Islamic Shiite radical loving mulahs. The Shiites are being low key because they will get what they want in the end or else it will be a freaking madhouse if they are denied. They'll do it the nice way and if it don't turn out the way they want it to turn out then they'll raise hell in the South. All signs point to them gearing up for the elections and for a violence if need be if they feel like they have been robbed in the elections.


http://story.news.yahoo.com/ne...raq_election_surprises


So your choices are a radical Islamic Shiite goverment controling Iraq or radical Sunni goverment along with former Baathists playing a minor role in goverment if any. The Kurds well they have their part of Iraq wrapped up but they don't have the numbers to effect a election not to mention that they are loathed by both Shiite Arabs and Sunni Arabs in Iraq.

Did you read the article?

But when the Shiite clerical leadership refused to delay the balloting, the Kurds waffled, claiming they never intended to agree to a postponement and they were ready for elections whenever they occur. The Iraqi National Accord, Prime Minister Ayad Allawi's party, took part in the meeting that produced the call for the delay.

Sure the Kurds may want some extra time but its unlikely to happen.Now the Sunnis are in the hot seat because they will lose the power they had under Saddams regime.Of course we can all sit down here and discuss things that may never happen but it seems hellbent that the election will go down.

Thats because the Kurds don't want to piss off the Arab Shiites while playing up to the Arab Sunnis. They know that the elections will bring in a Shiite mullah loving majority. What they don't know is what two are the lesser evils for them. So they are playing and watching both sides to see where the cookie crumbles. In the end like I said you will end up with either a Shiite theocracy, or a Al Qaida friendly Sunni government. Pick your Islamic poison.