Instant $30 off Shuttle SN41G2 and SN41G2B at Newegg

[drquest]

I saw today that New Egg had an instant $30 off Shuttle SN41G2 and SN41G2B barebones. $239.99 for the Silver and $242.99 for the Black version which is OOS right now.

edit Was $239.99 and $242.99 but now $30 higher for each.... what's up with that?

Offer ends 1/25 and here's the link to the Silver version.

SN41G2 at NewEgg

mrpeabody

 

[SimMike2]

Looks like it has room for one full size PCI. If this is the fact, not a bad deal for home theater enthusiasts. I think the black one is in-stock again.

 

[marvdmartian]

Yes, it has one full size pci slot, plus an 8x agp.

Word of warning (from experience), tho.....

If you plan on putting a video capture card in, don't be surprised if you have to remove the two screws holding the card to the slot cover, in order to seat the card in the PCI slot. I've got the silver version of this computer, and to put a Winfast 2000XP tv card in there, I had to do that, due to the connections on the card getting in the way, cuz of the way the case is designed.

Not a big deal, but took me about 5 minutes to figure it out, and thought I'd hopefully save someone else the headaches!

 

[drquest]

I'm running an AIW 9700Pro in my silver SN41G2 and it works great.... Nothing in the PCI slot.....

mrpeabody

 

[Praxis]

That seems like a good deal, but, not to thread poop, is it really a better value than the SK41G if you aren't a gamer? I can buy a rebadged (Cisnet) SK41G (VIA KM266 chipset) for about $163 (no tax), while this would run me $259 after tax. They seem pretty similar, except the SN41G2 has the Nvidia2 chipset, which might be very marginally faster (~10%) and would have video that would be about 3 times as good for a gamer, but the KM266 video in my Biostar M7VIG seems OK for my purposes (including watching DVDs). I'd be hesitant to put a really hot CPU in one of these things because they only have a 200 watt power supply and might overheat in that tiny case, so 166 FSB support probably wouldn't be that important to me. They seem to have about the same set of peripherals and connectors. I'd kind of like to build an XPC, but just don't know if the Nvidia2 solution would be cost-effective for me.

 

[alexcohen]

I'm thinking about this deal too, and just to make it clear, the end price for the 41G2 is $209 shipped, and the 41G2B is $212 shipped...the prices he lists are PRE instant rebate... I'm just concerned about the whole sound chip/static issues that I keep hearing about on the nForce2 boards...

 

[drquest]

Originally posted by: alexcohen
I'm thinking about this deal too, and just to make it clear, the end price for the 41G2 is $209 shipped, and the 41G2B is $212 shipped...the prices he lists are PRE instant rebate... I'm just concerned about the whole sound chip/static issues that I keep hearing about on the nForce2 boards...

I added one to my shopping cart and it does drop the prices to what you showed. I've had my SN41G2 almost a year now and haven't seen any issues with the sound or static and I'm considering buying another one. The one main issue with these is they are a little bit loud, although you can get a new 250watt power supply for them which is quieter and they are a little picky about the type of ram you use, especially if you are planning on using the onboard video which then shares with the system ram.

A good place to go for more info is Sudhian and their SFF boards.

SFF

mrpeabody

 

[drquest]

Originally posted by: Praxis
That seems like a good deal, but, not to thread poop, is it really a better value than the SK41G if you aren't a gamer? I can buy a rebadged (Cisnet) SK41G (VIA KM266 chipset) for about $163 (no tax), while this would run me $259 after tax. They seem pretty similar, except the SN41G2 has the Nvidia2 chipset, which might be very marginally faster (~10%) and would have video that would be about 3 times as good for a gamer, but the KM266 video in my Biostar M7VIG seems OK for my purposes (including watching DVDs). I'd be hesitant to put a really hot CPU in one of these things because they only have a 200 watt power supply and might overheat in that tiny case, so 166 FSB support probably wouldn't be that important to me. They seem to have about the same set of peripherals and connectors. I'd kind of like to build an XPC, but just don't know if the Nvidia2 solution would be cost-effective for me.

The SK is a nice one as well and is cheaper. If you're not concerned about good onboard video and audio the SK is a cheaper option. I don't use the onboard video as I have an AIW 9700 pro paired with my 2400xp but wanted the better audio. Another thing I considered was I preferred the newer G2 case styling over to the G1 cases which the SK has. But some prefer the G1's.

mrpeabody

 

[cremefilled]

I'd be hesitant to put a really hot CPU in one of these things because they only have a 200 watt power supply and might overheat in that tiny case

I haven't read about any overheating problems. The "heatpipe" heatsink/fan is quite efficient, and as for power, keep in mind that you'll typically be operating just one optical drive and one hard drive. 200W should be plenty.

One advantage of the Nforce2 boards is that, until recently, they would treat AMD chips as completely unlocked, meaning that you could dial in overclocked settings however you wanted.

For anyone contemplating the Nforce2 version, here's how I would add up building a small NF2 system on your own:
microATX case with 200W PSU = $45
NF2 microATX board with integrated video = $75
heatsink/fan = $20

total = $140
This won't look nearly as nice, and the cooling arguably won't be as good (although you can add fans to your stock case), but one advantage is that you can swap out the motherboard down the road. Here's a nice looking microATX case.

 

[SlushieKen]

I was an 'early adopter' to buy the sn41g2. Having now had that over a year and some change, I can say that this is a good case and board.

The one caveat to this system: the onboard graphics. It blows for gaming. Period. I have heard people say it works for them, but I am a fairly serious Wolf player and it did not come close. I stuck with my ti4600 (which had serious cooling problems in this case... I cut a hole over the fan which helped a bit) and just lately moved to an ATI 9800 standard card.

That said, if your not gaming, the onboard should work great. It comes with S-video out so you can hook it right up to your TV and watch your movie 'back ups'. Beware, as pointed out earlier, when using on-board graphics the memory brand/quality can be an issue.

There are rumors that the ATI cards don't work right with nForce2 chipset. My experience shows this is bogus. I have no problems at all even after overclocking.

Serious M/B overclocking cannot be done easily as the multiplier is locked but you can increase your bus speed to get some OC. As for me it runs around (working from memory) ~5300 in 3dmark03 with the 9800 overclocked via the Rage3d app and the bus speed turned up. I am sorry I don't know the mem speed or processor I use but they were top of the line over a year ago (Geil 1GB in 2 matched sticks). I'll update this with that info tonight.


Long story short: I like this system a lot. The small size is great for lan parties and use at home (IE an entertainment center). I never have needed more than the 1 PCI slot (already has USB, firewire, sound, NIC, etc. built in). The built in sound is great, I have never had noticed the crackling or static mentioned here and other places, and since I use headphones I would think I would hear it.

Anyway my $.02. Hope that helps make a decision.

 

[PeterPan2002]

NEWEgg raised the price to 30 more for each and hide the SN45GB. NO deal here:|
OP, please change the title.

 

[drquest]

Originally posted by: PeterPan2002
NEWEgg raised the price to 30 more for each and hide the SN45GB. NO deal here:|
OP, please change the title.

Gezz just noticed that.... thanks NewEgg :disgust:

 

[Shyster]

That's so blatant its ridiculous -- to change the price after the deal is posted here and on FW! I used to have faith in NewEgg but between this and some other things I've heard lately I begin to have very serious doubts.

 

[PeterPan2002]

The SN45GB was 229 before and now disappeared. Wierd.

 

[Praxis]

With tax for Californios the price is now close to $260 from Newegg. ZipZoomFly (what a name, used to be Googlegear, good reseller ratings) has it for $230 plus tax, basically $249, about $11 less than Newegg with comparable Resellersratings. That's still more than $20 more than the price that Newegg had for a few hours, though.