Installing Win98, Its booting up now. It was a bad CPU!!

[BuckMaster]

Im installing win98 on a computer and I keep getting a SUWIN error half way threw the install? Its a computer im working on for my dad. Its a Soyo 5EHM AT board with 128 Dimm. I only have a voodoo 3 2000 card installed.

Any ideas?
Thanks!

 

[Rebels7]

I once got this error years ago installing
Windows '95 from floppy discs. It was caused from disc 13 having a corrupt file. After microsoft sent me a new disc, everything installed fine. I don't know the meaning of this error and since you are installing from the CD-ROM, I assume that the CD is ok and does not have any scratches or bad places on it. Maybe someone else can give you a meaning of this error. Just my two cents worth.

 

[BuckMaster]

Thanks Rebels7 for the reply!

Well i finally got windows to install after flashing the BIOS. But when windows starts for the first time its crashs into a blue screen.

Something wierd is going on, what i dont know yet. :|

 

[medic]

BuckMaster
Good to see you got it that far, what exactly was the SUWIN or Setup Windows error? Usually they have a number identifier such as:

http://support.microsoft.com/support/kb/articles/Q129/9/71.asp?LN=EN-US&SD=gn&FR=0

More info:
http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Troy/6883/suwin.html#SU995035%20Error%20Message%20During%20Windows%2098

What did you do to get it to install?

Great archive of SUWIN errors:
http://www.generation.net/~hleboeuf/suwin.htm

 

[BuckMaster]

Sup CRV,

Any help would be great. Heres the story. This computer worked fine about 6 months ago. But i took out some of the cards and gave the PC to my dad. He was wanting to upgrade from a 100MHZ.

Running:
Soyo 5EHM
Now Im trying a 32 Meg Dimm PNY, i did have 128 Meg in. Im trying now to switch the ram into a differant slot also.
AMD 300 K6-2
Voodoo3 2000, I know this item is fine. Pulled out of a working unit. Also tried a differant PCI slot.
5.1 Western H/D, I know this item is fine. Pulled out of a working unit.

I cant remember the number off hand. I will right it down this time. I didnt know you could look up those numbers like you posted. $hit i just finished installing win98 and it was booting up again for the first time. Im getting the blue screen of death again.

A fatal error 0E has occurred at 0028:C00028F1 in VXD Vmm(01) + 0000181F. Will be terminated ect..

Like i said i flashed the bios and checked the settings. I might of just got lucky the 2nd time. Everything looks fine. I double checked the board and jumpers all look fine. The only thing im not sure of on this board is i think i might of been useing Simms and not the dimms at the time. Dimms were just coming out then. This board supports both. Im not sure of this thought. But it reads it fine in the bios setup.

CRV could you hook meup with a link to the above code
Thanks! Buck

 

[Chadder007]

Make sure the BIOS virus protection is turned off. I have had trouble installing OS's before with this feature turned on before. It has corrupted the installation somehow. Also I would first try to reseat everything on the motherboard and make sure that the IDE cables are plugged in good, clear the bios settings, make sure the protection is off, FDISK the hard drive, Format the drive, then reinstall.

 

[BuckMaster]

Chadder007

Been thier done that Thanks thought!!!

 

[medic]

BuckMaster
That error doesn't come up...damn..nothing about a SUWIN 00**** number?

Maybe try both (not together) of SIMMs and DIMMs---You may have to swap a jumper on the board though, check the manual.

Pick through all the bios settings, make sure the H.D. is detected properly, some SUWIN errors relate to the date and time being off, so check that also.
EDIT:
The first part of the error, "A fatal error 0E has occurred at..." points to bad ram:
http://support.microsoft.com/support/kb/articles/q138/7/88.asp

 

[BuckMaster]

Will do.

Ill try to find some Simms. But im 99% sure i was running Dimms. Because all the jumers were setup for Dimms, and like you said you have to change a jumper when running Simms and they were set for Dimms. I didnt check the date and time thing. Thats good thinking thought I also did what Chadder007 suggested. The only thing i know to do now is replace the CPU. I have a AMD 450. But not another AT board to test with. Im useing a Enlight AT Case. I dont think the P/S is a issue. But anythings possible! I know the Win98 CD is good and the H/D. I just did a full Win98 install with them on another PC i have. It went smooth like its suppose too! Booted up fine! I did have this same problem with this same computer with a cheap trident video card. But ive tried two differant video cards today. With my luck its probably something easy and stupid that im over looking. :|

BTW..Ive tried 2 differant types of Dimms CRV. Both from working stations. I've been thinking its the ram for awhile now. But cant prove it. Going to try Simms. I might have to wait till I go back to work Wednesday. I dont think i have any laying around the house.

Thanks guys!! I'll be back at it tomorrow, off to play some Dark Reign2 for a bit. I need a break from this POS!!!

 

[lowtech1]

It could be what CRV suggested, but...

...Try booting up and see if the mem go through the mem checks (twice in POST) then the mem should be okay. You could try putting them mem sticks in a known working sys to find out if it is the cupid, but IMHO...the problem is from bad power supply or mobo.

Like others I don't know what SUWIN error is...

...but, the 0028:C00028F1 in VXD Vmm(01) + 0000181F = mean that there is an error occured with the Virtual Machine Manager(VMM32.VXD)in block 28, between C00028F1~0000181F address.

The problem is that your system is having trouble loading Virtual Device Drivers (VxD) in Real Mode, just befor the system switch to Protected Mode...suggested that the cupit coudl be PnP.

Could try set BIOS to default with PnP & Virus check off = It could be that your Mobo BIOS for PnP is not compatible with Win98.

And, also check your Power Supply to see if it is in good working order.

 

[BuckMaster]

Last visit before bed

I dont know why but it seems like a hardware issue for some reason. Ive ran both of the Dimms in other work stations so i can limit out the ram.

Lowtech..The problem is that your system is having trouble loading Virtual Device Drivers (VxD) in Real Mode, just before the system switch to Protected Mode...suggested that the cupit coudl be PnP.

Sounds possible and seems like what it might be doing, ill check out your and CRVs ideas tomorrow. I hope WE can figure it out Its driving me nutts! I might see whats on the Soyo CD also to see if it has something i might be missing. Whast odd this system use to run great. I just wanted to upgraded from a AT to ATX system.

Agian Thanks Everyone!
Buck

 

[ricow]

check in your bios if in the standard cmos your ide channel is not set as cd-rom set it on none some mainboards have this prob. i had it myself.



sorry for the typo's but i am just a poor dutch guy

 

[BuckMaster]

Back to work i go :| Rebooting for the first time again after doing more tweaking. Also installed another CPU and Fan. Damn its never got this far before!! Looking for Hardware. Keep fingers crossed.

 

[PowerJoe]

1. Copy Win98 installation to the HD, and install from there. I've seen direct-from-CD installation fail because of less-than-perfect CDs and CDROMs.

2. Try disabling UDMA for the CDROM. The combination of Win98, VIA chipset, some CDROMs (BTC comes to mind) and UDMA seems to cause lockups.

-PJ

 

[BuckMaster]

I dont know how or why, but it looks like the CPU was the culprit. It worked fine before i upgraded thought. I replaced the AMD K2-300 with a 450 and Win98 installs fine now. I put the 300 back in and the blue screen popped up in the middle of a freah install again. Now I need to buy dad a new CPU it looks like. I might as well get a 450 or higher now they the AMD K6/2 or so cheap now days. Thats a nice jump from a 100MHZ

Thanks EVERYONE!!