Inside North Korea

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If you have netflix streaming I highly recommend the national geographic episode "inside north korea" . It was made in 2006, so not all that old. NK had allowed a foreign eye surgeon to enter the country to treat people with blindness. The journalist used that to go with the doctor and said they were going to document the doctors work. They had to smuggle in some cameras and were escorted everywhere they went by several people called minders.

I knew the country was bad and under the rule of a dictator but what I pictured wasn't like what I saw. It is a country I can't imagine living in. Saddam was bad in Iraq but Kim Jon makes him look like a choir boy. Everywhere, and I mean everywhere there are only posters , statues, paintings of Kim Jon, nothing else can be displayed. If you go to a library the only books are books written by Kim Jon. Children starving while Kim Jon lives off imported expensive food. I was expecting to see some sort of disapproval of the man, some type of hatred for what he was doing. Even if it was just a hint of it. Instead I saw something very different. They worship the man, and not from fear but because they truly love him . They believe the man is a god, that everything he does to them is for their own good.

I couldn't believe it when I saw a woman begin talking about Kim Jon, and how she wished she could see again to look on the face of her glorious leader and she started to tear up talking about him and everyone in the room started to cry , even the kids talking about how great he is.

It was like a Jim Jones cult but on a countrywide scale. I thought the people were oppressed and wanting change but from what I saw what they want is whatever Kim Jon gives them. I really think they are willing to die for the man after seeing the documentary. He keeps a concentration camp for the ones that do get out of line where entire families, including children are executed.

I was really against doing something against NK until I watched that program. About half way through I kept wishing I could get 5 minutes alone with their glorious leader.
 

MagnusTheBrewer

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I couldn't believe it when I saw a woman begin talking about Kim Jon, and how she wished she could see again to look on the face of her glorious leader and she started to tear up talking about him and everyone in the room started to cry , even the kids talking about how great he is.

It was like a Jim Jones cult but on a countrywide scale. I thought the people were oppressed and wanting change but from what I saw what they want is whatever Kim Jon gives them. I really think they are willing to die for the man after seeing the documentary. He keeps a concentration camp for the ones that do get out of line where entire families, including children are executed.

You are looking at it with an outsiders viewpoint. Nothing like death and daily reminders to ensure love for dear leader. Do you really think people will show their true beliefs on camera or perhaps in graffiti when they know without a shadow of a doubt that they will be hunted down along with their families and friends for it? You are a fool if you thing ANY form of disapproval would be tolerated. I would think it odd if everyone did not sing his praises at every opportunity.
 

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You are looking at it with an outsiders viewpoint. Nothing like death and daily reminders to ensure love for dear leader. Do you really think people will show their true beliefs on camera or perhaps in graffiti when they know without a shadow of a doubt that they will be hunted down along with their families and friends for it? You are a fool if you thing ANY form of disapproval would be tolerated. I would think it odd if everyone did not sing his praises at every opportunity.

No I expected that. The difference is that I didn't see fear, what I saw was people who actually believe what they are saying. It wasn't something they were saying to just not get in trouble. I think they really do love him. As the commentator said on the documentary it is highly possible because they have not known anything else and the only information they have access to is what Kim Jon gives them. The way the people responded was so close to what happens in cults.
 
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MagnusTheBrewer

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No I expected that. The difference is that I didn't see fear, what I saw was people who actually believe what they are saying. It wasn't something they were saying to just not get in trouble. I think they really do love him. As the commentator said on the documentary it is highly possible because they have not known anything else and the only information they have access to is what Kim Jon gives them. The way the people responded was so close to what happens in cults.

I agree with the cult thing. Human's are immensely adaptable. Showing fear is a sign of weakness. When you live in an environment that preys on weakness, you do not share it. They do not love him but, are incapable of freeing themselves much like cult members.
 

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This is also a very good one:

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0450065/

Keep in mind that all of these documentaries are made with footage provided by guests that have been selectively chosen and permitted to visit the North Korea capital city, Pyongyang. This "showcase" capital represents the lifestyle of only the political elite and their extended families, less than 1% of the country's population.

Elsewhere in North Korea, far away from tourists and their cameras, scores of people live like animals and are imprisoned in vast city-sized concentration camps.

http://www.care2.com/causes/human-rights/blog/north-koreas-secret-camps/

http://www.hrnk.org/download/The_Hidden_Gulag.pdf (PDF link)
 
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WelshBloke

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If you have netflix streaming I highly recommend the national geographic episode "inside north Korea" . It was made in 2006, so not all that old. NK had allowed a foreign eye surgeon to enter the country to treat people with blindness. The journalist used that to go with the doctor and said they were going to document the doctors work. They had to smuggle in some cameras and were escorted everywhere they went by several people called minders.

I knew the country was bad and under the rule of a dictator but what I pictured wasn't like what I saw. It is a country I can't imagine living in. Saddam was bad in Iraq but Kim Jon makes him look like a choir boy. Everywhere, and I mean everywhere there are only posters , statues, paintings of Kim Jon, nothing else can be displayed. If you go to a library the only books are books written by Kim Jon. Children starving while Kim Jon lives off imported expensive food. I was expecting to see some sort of disapproval of the man, some type of hatred for what he was doing. Even if it was just a hint of it. Instead I saw something very different. They worship the man, and not from fear but because they truly love him . They believe the man is a god, that everything he does to them is for their own good.

I couldn't believe it when I saw a woman begin talking about Kim Jon, and how she wished she could see again to look on the face of her glorious leader and she started to tear up talking about him and everyone in the room started to cry , even the kids talking about how great he is.

It was like a Jim Jones cult but on a countrywide scale. I thought the people were oppressed and wanting change but from what I saw what they want is whatever Kim Jon gives them. I really think they are willing to die for the man after seeing the documentary. He keeps a concentration camp for the ones that do get out of line where entire families, including children are executed.

I was really against doing something against NK until I watched that program. About half way through I kept wishing I could get 5 minutes alone with their glorious leader.

*shrug* I've seen people say how great God is while watchind their child die of leukemia.
 

Zebo

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If you have netflix streaming I highly recommend the national geographic episode "inside north korea" . It was made in 2006, so not all that old. NK had allowed a foreign eye surgeon to enter the country to treat people with blindness. The journalist used that to go with the doctor and said they were going to document the doctors work. They had to smuggle in some cameras and were escorted everywhere they went by several people called minders.

I knew the country was bad and under the rule of a dictator but what I pictured wasn't like what I saw. It is a country I can't imagine living in. Saddam was bad in Iraq but Kim Jon makes him look like a choir boy. Everywhere, and I mean everywhere there are only posters , statues, paintings of Kim Jon, nothing else can be displayed. If you go to a library the only books are books written by Kim Jon. Children starving while Kim Jon lives off imported expensive food. I was expecting to see some sort of disapproval of the man, some type of hatred for what he was doing. Even if it was just a hint of it. Instead I saw something very different. They worship the man, and not from fear but because they truly love him . They believe the man is a god, that everything he does to them is for their own good.

I couldn't believe it when I saw a woman begin talking about Kim Jon, and how she wished she could see again to look on the face of her glorious leader and she started to tear up talking about him and everyone in the room started to cry , even the kids talking about how great he is.

It was like a Jim Jones cult but on a countrywide scale. I thought the people were oppressed and wanting change but from what I saw what they want is whatever Kim Jon gives them. I really think they are willing to die for the man after seeing the documentary. He keeps a concentration camp for the ones that do get out of line where entire families, including children are executed.

I was really against doing something against NK until I watched that program. About half way through I kept wishing I could get 5 minutes alone with their glorious leader.

Excellent synopsis Modelworks. I seen this about a month ago on netflix too and got same thing. Depressing as hell.
 

Genx87

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I have to believe N.Korea is what Hitler envisioned when he started building the Nazi state.
 
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