Inglewood to WalMart: Not In My Front Yard!

[gistech1978]

Originally posted by: dullard
I personally believe in freedom in America. If someone wants to open a store (even a Wal-Mart), they should have the freedom to do so.

However, it is nice when a Wal-Mart doesn't move in for one major reason: quality of products. Wal-Mart stocks the lowest quality or two rungs of every product. Never will you see the high quality product in a Wal-Mart. And in many cases, quality does matter. So instead of buying one $100 item at a mom and pop store that lasts a lifetime, people are forced to buy a $30 item every year of their life from Wal-Mart. Sure you save money in the short term - but certainly not in the long term in all cases. Note: for some items, quality isn't an issue, so Wal-Mart is great on those.

And some of your arguments are misguided. If a community always pays $15 an hour for minimum wage jobs, and a Wal-Mart moves in offering $7 an hour, then no one would work there. The Wal-Mart will lose money and close up. The community would then lose nothing and gain the investment money that Wal-Mart pumped in to build the store. Obviously that isn't the case, so your arguments are obviously incorrect.

you also have the freedom to vote in america.
last time i checked.
so a community doesnt have the freedom to determine what businesses set up shop in the community they live in?
i dont live there, so i dont care either way.

 

[slag]

Originally posted by: compuwiz1
"Also, where do you work that grocery checkout play $15-$16 / hr! Holy bujesus! I mean, an EE intern gets $14 / hr "


Safeway, Raleys's, Ralphs...people who care what their people need to live, around here.

Frankly, I cannot see how two people making that can make it aourd here.

I just went down my short list:

Rent = $1200+

2 cars = $1100

Electric & Gas = $140

Phone, seems to always be $95-100

Car insurance = $200

I spend at least $100 per week for gas and meals.

Wife spends about $75

Factor in at least $100 per week in groceries, and we haven't even bought beer or wine yet!

Cell phone $48

Cable / Internet $95


So far we need a $60k per year job, and we haven't even gotten to the fun part yet......boats, Barbeques, travel, entertainment.


This is a good one for the young ones, who think their ready to move away from home. The best advice you can get, is live there as long as you can!

Actually, from your list, you are already well into the "good stuff"

Let me list what you have that most dont.

2 cars for 1100.00. WTF are you driving, bmw's? Welcome to the real world. Most people griping about money drive 3 year old escorts they are paying $229/month on.

cable/internet, $95.00 At first glance this doesn't look bad, but I know many people who use OTA broadcasts and have a $30.00/month dsl plan.

Phone for $100.00 (who the heck are you calling, Russia?) My family of 4 has a phone bill in the low $30.00's every month. If you want to talk to someone, email them.

Rent, 1200+ May or may not be the norm for your environment. I imagine if you are in CA, it is. I own a 2100 sq ft home, 3/4 finished basement, 4 bedroom, in good shape and pay $1200/month mortgage. Building equity is the way to go if it suits your lifestyle.

You already have it so good and you don't even know it.

 

[dpopiz]

inglewood, inglewood always up to no good

 

[OutHouse]

Originally posted by: dullard
I personally believe in freedom in America. If someone wants to open a store (even a Wal-Mart), they should have the freedom to do so.

However, it is nice when a Wal-Mart doesn't move in for one major reason: quality of products. Wal-Mart stocks the lowest quality or two rungs of every product. Never will you see the high quality product in a Wal-Mart. And in many cases, quality does matter. So instead of buying one $100 item at a mom and pop store that lasts a lifetime, people are forced to buy a $30 item every year of their life from Wal-Mart. Sure you save money in the short term - but certainly not in the long term in all cases. Note: for some items, quality isn't an issue, so Wal-Mart is great on those.

And some of your arguments are misguided. If a community always pays $15 an hour for minimum wage jobs, and a Wal-Mart moves in offering $7 an hour, then no one would work there. The Wal-Mart will lose money and close up. The community would then lose nothing and gain the investment money that Wal-Mart pumped in to build the store. Obviously that isn't the case, so your arguments are obviously incorrect.

What the F*CK are you blabbering about? Mobile 1 is mobile 1, Owens Sauage is Owens sausage, Johnsonvill Brauts are Johnsonvill brauts, Scotts Weed & feed is Scotts Weed & feed. What do you mean they stock crap and the lowest quaility or two rungs of every product? I buy those products at Walmart because NOBODY can touch their prices. Are you saying walmart stocks a different quality of the products i listed compared to Target, ACE hardware, or KMart???

 

[dullard]

Originally posted by: Citrix

Originally posted by: dullard
Note: for some items, quality isn't an issue, so Wal-Mart is great on those.

What the F*CK are you blabbering about? Mobile 1 is mobile 1, Owens Sauage is Owens sausage, Johnsonvill Brauts are Johnsonvill brauts, Scotts Weed & feed is Scotts Weed & feed. What do you mean they stock crap and the lowest quaility or two rungs of every product? I buy those products at Walmart because NOBODY can touch their prices. Are you saying walmart stocks a different quality of the products i listed compared to Target, ACE hardware, or KMart???

Obviously some people don't read the whole post. I bolded the appropriate section to assist readers of my post. Yes Mobile 1 is Mobile 1. Duh. Wal-Mart is good for items like that. But Wal-Mart also won't put an auto shop out of business either in most cases.

Are Wal-Marts clothes the same clothes you get at your favorite store? I bet not. They are cheaper at Wal-Mart, who cares if it isn't what you wanted to wear. Wal-Mart has been known to knock quite a few clothing stores out of their area.

Are the $200 Lindows computers the same computers you'll buy/build elsewhere? I bet not. They are cheaper at Wal-Mart, who cares if you need a video card. Wal-Mart has been known to 'assist' computer stores to close.

Like rap music? I guess since you want to save $1 a CD, you should switch to Wal-Mart and listen to country or pop instead. Wal-Mart has basically put many music stores out of business (often the only ones in town which sell rap).

Want a top of the line 27" JVC (replace with another maker if you wish) TV with all the features? No problem, you can settle for a 27" $178 Orion TV with no features.

I could go on and on. Wal-Mart simply can not and does not stock everything. Typically, Wal-Mart stocks the lower priced (lower featured) items. If that Wal-Mart forces the closing of only mom-and-pop store in town which sells those items, the residents are SOL.

 

[dullard]

Originally posted by: gistech1978
you also have the freedom to vote in america.
last time i checked.
so a community doesnt have the freedom to determine what businesses set up shop in the community they live in?
i dont live there, so i dont care either way.

Yes, and like I said it is good at times when residents get their way. However, a city council shouldn't put up so many restrictions that a community needs to vote whenever a store wants to open.

 

[sygyzy]

What's ironic about this is there are a string of Walmart ads in theatres in which a ghetto CA city (Inglewood, Compton, etc?) gets a new Walmart and they are so happy. They have testimonial from the citizens praising Walmart for bringing in jobs and changing the community.

 

Originally posted by: dullard

Originally posted by: Citrix

Originally posted by: dullard
Note: for some items, quality isn't an issue, so Wal-Mart is great on those.

What the F*CK are you blabbering about? Mobile 1 is mobile 1, Owens Sauage is Owens sausage, Johnsonvill Brauts are Johnsonvill brauts, Scotts Weed & feed is Scotts Weed & feed. What do you mean they stock crap and the lowest quaility or two rungs of every product? I buy those products at Walmart because NOBODY can touch their prices. Are you saying walmart stocks a different quality of the products i listed compared to Target, ACE hardware, or KMart???

Obviously some people don't read the whole post. I bolded the appropriate section to assist readers of my post. Yes Mobile 1 is Mobile 1. Duh. Wal-Mart is good for items like that. But Wal-Mart also won't put an auto shop out of business either in most cases.

Are Wal-Marts clothes the same clothes you get at your favorite store? I bet not. They are cheaper at Wal-Mart, who cares if it isn't what you wanted to wear. Wal-Mart has been known to knock quite a few clothing stores out of their area.

Are the $200 Lindows computers the same computers you'll buy/build elsewhere? I bet not. They are cheaper at Wal-Mart, who cares if you need a video card. Wal-Mart has been known to 'assist' computer stores to close.

Like rap music? I guess since you want to save $1 a CD, you should switch to Wal-Mart and listen to country or pop instead. Wal-Mart has basically put many music stores out of business (often the only ones in town which sell rap).

Want a top of the line 27" JVC (replace with another maker if you wish) TV with all the features? No problem, you can settle for a 27" $178 Orion TV with no features.

I could go on and on. Wal-Mart simply can not and does not stock everything. Typically, Wal-Mart stocks the lower priced (lower featured) items. If that Wal-Mart forces the closing of only mom-and-pop store in town which sells those items, the residents are SOL.

Walmart can offer lower prices not because their products are of lower quality, but because they buy in such bulk, they get HUGE discounts. Not only that, but they FORCE their suppliers to be more cost efficient, hence lowering prices. If the suppliers cannot keep up, a new one will be found. Its as simple as that.

 

[dullard]

Originally posted by: FallenHero
Walmart can offer lower prices not because their products are of lower quality, but because they buy in such bulk, they get HUGE discounts. Not only that, but they FORCE their suppliers to be more cost efficient, hence lowering prices. If the suppliers cannot keep up, a new one will be found. Its as simple as that.

Yes Wal-Mart gets low prices for other reasons as well. I assumed that everyone knows that and it didn't need to be said. The fact remains though, that it is Wal-Mart's policy not to sell the Rolex's of the world. No matter what you say, that fact doesn't change.

 

[Vic]

Originally posted by: dullard

Originally posted by: FallenHero
Walmart can offer lower prices not because their products are of lower quality, but because they buy in such bulk, they get HUGE discounts. Not only that, but they FORCE their suppliers to be more cost efficient, hence lowering prices. If the suppliers cannot keep up, a new one will be found. Its as simple as that.

Yes Wal-Mart gets low prices for other reasons as well. I assumed that everyone knows that and it didn't need to be said. The fact remains though, that it is Wal-Mart's policy not to sell the Rolex's of the world. No matter what you say, that fact doesn't change.

I thought it was a pretty well-known fact that Wal-Mart sells low quality merchandise.

Contrary to popular myth, bulk does not mean that one can get a discount below the cost of acquisition/manufacture.

 

[Kenazo]

60/40 is actually a lot closer of a vote split than I would have guessed on something like this.

 

[slag]

Contrary to popular myth, bulk does not mean that one can get a discount below the cost of acquisition/manufacture.

Sure it does. Wal-mart forced huffy to take a loss on their most popular bike models so they would carry the huffy brand. Huffy made up that loss in slightly higher priced, better quality models they also sold at wal-mart

Wal-mart forced vlassic pickes into bankruptcy because they did not want to pay vlassic what it cost vlassic to make a 3 lb jar of pickles. Vlassic couldnt sell pickles enough to stay afloat because walmart had to have their $5.00 jar of pickles (or something like that) and vlassic was stuck with that. Vlassic was walmarts largest supplier and would have quickly gone under without them, but went under slowly instead because walmart recognized that people were awestruck with a large jar of pickles, even though their own research found that rarely did the entire jar of pickles get eaten. It was merely an attention grabber and a statement. Look at us, we offer a huge jar of pickles for an insanely low price!

I read or heard this somewhere recently

Joe

 

[Kenazo]

ha ha.. pickles. something about that word makes me laugh.

I live in a small Manitoba (canada) town and Walmart is talking about coming in. I've never seen so many ppl so up in arms! the interesting thing is our largest retailer (Sobey's) is quite pissed off, and talking about how we should all support local companies. I would bet anything that when they came to town they put 5 or 6 small local businesses out too. oh well. that's how the tide turns.

 

[So]

Originally posted by: slag

Contrary to popular myth, bulk does not mean that one can get a discount below the cost of acquisition/manufacture.

Sure it does. Wal-mart forced huffy to take a loss on their most popular bike models so they would carry the huffy brand. Huffy made up that loss in slightly higher priced, better quality models they also sold at wal-mart

Wal-mart forced vlassic pickes into bankruptcy because they did not want to pay vlassic what it cost vlassic to make a 3 lb jar of pickles. Vlassic couldnt sell pickles enough to stay afloat because walmart had to have their $5.00 jar of pickles (or something like that) and vlassic was stuck with that. Vlassic was walmarts largest supplier and would have quickly gone under without them, but went under slowly instead because walmart recognized that people were awestruck with a large jar of pickles, even though their own research found that rarely did the entire jar of pickles get eaten. It was merely an attention grabber and a statement. Look at us, we offer a huge jar of pickles for an insanely low price!

I read or heard this somewhere recently

Joe

While a valid argument, that certainly doesn't support the claim that wal-mart is bad for the public and hurts townspeople.

 

[Pliablemoose]

The benefits are what bother me about Wally World, by not fully employing their staff, they avoid paying health insurance and retirement benefits.

Guess who that screws over in the long run (besides D. in P&N?)? You. Your tax dollars will pay the retired employees SS benefits & federal/state/local health care.

Wal Mart cleverly shifts these expenses, they're also frightened, have you noticed the change in tone in the Wal Mart ads? Wal Mart is big brother & will take care of you like it took care of me BS...

http://walmartsucks.com/index.php

My family used to shop there regularly, the lines & customer service just finally got to me. We have about $35/month worth of stuff we buy from them (formerly ~$3-400 q 6 weeks, the rest of our grocery purchases now go to local not national chains.

 

[ReiAyanami]

yeah, i visit walmart like once or twice a year, went there last weekend. realized why i only go there once or twice a year. can they make the aisles any smaller? cart dodging 101.

aisles would actually be adequate if they didnt put giant product placements down the middle taking up over 50% of the space

 

[Zebo]

Walmart, or Whitetrash as we call it around here, has no place in black/hispanic Inglewood stealing jobs from Korean store owners.

 

[JimRaynor]

hah, my dad was all against the walmart they put up in our neighborhood. Now he goes there whenever he goes out to buy anything. Stupid.

 

[HappyPuppy]

Stupid losers in Inglewood. You could have had some jobs, but now you have none. I hope you are happy.

 

[rival]

i wish our damn city council didnt bend over for walmart, theres supercenters everywhere here now, nobody in this city wanted them

 

[Zebo]

Whitetrash symbolizing political divide

I Like this "disconnect" (politician way of saying stupid)

"There's that disconnect," Kind said. "I see it back here in the district all the time. Everyone decries the lack of jobs and jobs going overseas, but they don't think twice about walking into a Wal-Mart and buying this (foriegn made) stuff. What they really want is quality and price."

 

[Subzero]

Originally posted by: SuperTool
Inglewood... Always up to no good...

LMAO !!!

Beat me to it ....

 

[OS]

Originally posted by: So

Originally posted by: slag

Contrary to popular myth, bulk does not mean that one can get a discount below the cost of acquisition/manufacture.

Sure it does. Wal-mart forced huffy to take a loss on their most popular bike models so they would carry the huffy brand. Huffy made up that loss in slightly higher priced, better quality models they also sold at wal-mart

Wal-mart forced vlassic pickes into bankruptcy because they did not want to pay vlassic what it cost vlassic to make a 3 lb jar of pickles. Vlassic couldnt sell pickles enough to stay afloat because walmart had to have their $5.00 jar of pickles (or something like that) and vlassic was stuck with that. Vlassic was walmarts largest supplier and would have quickly gone under without them, but went under slowly instead because walmart recognized that people were awestruck with a large jar of pickles, even though their own research found that rarely did the entire jar of pickles get eaten. It was merely an attention grabber and a statement. Look at us, we offer a huge jar of pickles for an insanely low price!

I read or heard this somewhere recently

Joe

While a valid argument, that certainly doesn't support the claim that wal-mart is bad for the public and hurts townspeople.

He was addressing a tangential point and not the first point.

 

[WinkOsmosis]

Originally posted by: Zebo
Whitetrash symbolizing political divide

I Like this "disconnect" (politician way of saying stupid)

"There's that disconnect," Kind said. "I see it back here in the district all the time. Everyone decries the lack of jobs and jobs going overseas, but they don't think twice about walking into a Wal-Mart and buying this (foriegn made) stuff. What they really want is quality and price."

Lawrence, the 24-year-old mother, said she does not buy Democrats' accusations that Wal-Mart destroys communities and exports jobs. She knows about 100 people from the area who work there and recalled that during high school, she and her friends relied on the 24-hour shopping center as a source of recreation.

"It's so convenient, and everything is reasonable here," she said. "Where else do you go at night, except to walk around Wal-Mart?" Lawrence also said she intends to vote for Bush.

Lol

 

[NetGuySC]

Wal-Mart is the best thing that has ever happened to the manafacturing base of China. 80% of what WalMart sells is made overseas (mostly in China). I wish I still had he link to support this but I do not.


Just another reason to not like WalMart, but to be honest Wal Mart is a 800lb gorilla that most of usl created. As long as the american public shop only by price then the Wal-Marts will continue building and the US manufacturing jobs will continue leaving.