Infant Daughter Dies as Parents Play Online Game

[PowerEngineer]

Originally posted by: BigJ

Originally posted by: Kev

Originally posted by: BigJ

Originally posted by: Kev
I wonder if he will have nightmares of the baby crawling towards him on the ceiling.

I don't see how 5 hours could cause the baby's death. If you were to believe that, then how is the baby supposed to sleep at night? Are they supposed to watch it for 8 hrs straight?

First and obvious question: Are you a parent?

There are certain measures you should take when a baby goes to sleep. 5 hours is plenty of time for a baby to die.

No I'm not. How would a parent who is at home have been able to prevent this if it was SIDS?

More than likely, a parent who knows not to leave their child unattended for hours of time, would know the preventative measures to take against SIDS.

Things such as putting an infant on hard, flat surfaces, on their back. Not covering anywhere above the collarbone with a blanket. Covering the baby in the crib with a blanket strung relatively taught. Things of this nature. You can't stop all cases of SIDS, but there are plenty of measures parents can take to help prevent it.

I'm not a parent, but I have watched infants for cousins and aunts/uncles. You cannot take your eye off of them for a second.

Oh please!

I am a parent, and I must confess that I have taken my eyes off of my kids for very many seconds by the time they were four months old. By that time, most babies are sleeping through the night (i.e. 5-6 hours) and parents are finally getting some much needed sleep.

At four months, babies are also starting to roll around and can end up on their stomachs no matter how their parents lay them down (the advise we received was to try to have them sleep on their sides; stomach=SIDS and back=choke on drool/vomit -- nearly impossible!)

I agree that parents can do things to help prevent a SIDS death, but (short of montioring equipment) there's little chance that a parent in another room will realize that their baby has stopped breathing. A SIDS death does not mean that the parents were negligent or incompetent.

I also agree with everyone else that these parents are irresponsible to leave their child along at that age, even for a few minutes. That said, it's very unlikely that their presense in the house would have saved that life.

 

[Newfie]

ohhh...brutal. Poor kid. Leaving your baby for 5 hours is terrible! really, just shocking.

 

[neonerd]

:Q

 

[grrl]

Originally posted by: eigen

Originally posted by: BrokenVisage

Originally posted by: eigen
1,000,000,000-1

Actually, I ran the numbers and came up with a 33.33% chance of that baby dying, with .33 repeating of course.

Nope...I mean one billion chinese people minus 1

Actually, this happened in Korea, so it's more like 48,000,000 - 1

 

[AdamSnow]

WoW... just WoW

 

[Nitemare]

Originally posted by: 91TTZ
Most poorly written article EVER.

wtf is a "29-year-old man husband"

That's engrish for 29 y/o husband

 

[NFS4]

Originally posted by: AdamSnow
WoW... just WoW

R

 

[dderidex]

Originally posted by: HumblePie
Then again, this could also be bad timing because the baby could just have died while the parents were sleeping for a few hours. Which happens more often then people know. Then again, a kid dies while the parents are sleeping and it's not longer a negligance crime. Kid dies while parents are watching a movie or playing a video game and it's a crime. The difference is if it was a video game, it gets plastered on the news.

This is an interesting point, but it's true of gaming in general.

How many 'gamers' who go out and join charities do we hear about?

Someone goes on a shooting rampage, and EVERY GAME THEY PLAYED comes up for scrutiny.

It's mostly the Puritan Work Ethic of this country at work, I think. There is the underlying/subconscious notion in US culture - more than in ANY other culture in the world - that 'hard work = divine blessing = success'. Which is why any American can name at least 3 current billionairs in the nation, but not any 3 articles of the Constitution.

The net result of that is that ANYTHING that detracts from every person always working all the time when not sleeping is EXTREMELY suspect.

If a construction worker is accused of a sex crime and even has a computer in his HOUSE - it will be confiscated.

If a couple of businesspersons in Korea are out playing WoW and their kid dies - OMG, NEGLIGENCE!!

If a kid kills himself and plays 'Dungeons and Dragons', it's the fault of the game!

Now, same situations - but assume no entertainment at all.

Construction worker accused of a sex crime...but never touched a computer, never viewed porn, nothing. Suddenly, it's not THE FAULT of anything else, he's just a deviant and 'the system failed'.

Parents working alternating shifts and one is at work and the other asleep when the child dies. Negligence? Nobody would say so! It was just an unfortunate reality of modern life.

Hard-working, success-minded kid on the fast track in business school...never played any kind of games at all...ends up killing himself. Terrible tragedy, too much stress for him.

It's weird the instant aversion our culture has to any entertainment activities at ALL and how that is always IMMEDIATELY the fault of any problem that happens.

 

[gabemcg]

Yet another tragety that could easily have been avoided by having a PC/High Speed Connection of their own...

...sad... truly sad...

 

[MeanMeosh]

Originally posted by: oogabooga
Baby #2,678:
TEST SITUATION:
THROWN TO PACK OF WILD DOGS.
RESULT:
EATEN.

ahahahahahahaha i'm going to hell for laughing at that one

 

[grrl]

Originally posted by: dderidex

Originally posted by: HumblePie
Then again, this could also be bad timing because the baby could just have died while the parents were sleeping for a few hours. Which happens more often then people know. Then again, a kid dies while the parents are sleeping and it's not longer a negligance crime. Kid dies while parents are watching a movie or playing a video game and it's a crime. The difference is if it was a video game, it gets plastered on the news.

This is an interesting point, but it's true of gaming in general.

How many 'gamers' who go out and join charities do we hear about?

Someone goes on a shooting rampage, and EVERY GAME THEY PLAYED comes up for scrutiny.

It's mostly the Puritan Work Ethic of this country at work, I think. There is the underlying/subconscious notion in US culture - more than in ANY other culture in the world - that 'hard work = divine blessing = success'. Which is why any American can name at least 3 current billionairs in the nation, but not any 3 articles of the Constitution.

The net result of that is that ANYTHING that detracts from every person always working all the time when not sleeping is EXTREMELY suspect.

If a construction worker is accused of a sex crime and even has a computer in his HOUSE - it will be confiscated.

If a couple of businesspersons in Korea are out playing WoW and their kid dies - OMG, NEGLIGENCE!!

If a kid kills himself and plays 'Dungeons and Dragons', it's the fault of the game!

Now, same situations - but assume no entertainment at all.

Construction worker accused of a sex crime...but never touched a computer, never viewed porn, nothing. Suddenly, it's not THE FAULT of anything else, he's just a deviant and 'the system failed'.

Parents working alternating shifts and one is at work and the other asleep when the child dies. Negligence? Nobody would say so! It was just an unfortunate reality of modern life.

Hard-working, success-minded kid on the fast track in business school...never played any kind of games at all...ends up killing himself. Terrible tragedy, too much stress for him.

It's weird the instant aversion our culture has to any entertainment activities at ALL and how that is always IMMEDIATELY the fault of any problem that happens.

That's utter nonsense. It sounds like some people have a persecution complex and need to try to justify their own gaming. The fact that the parents were playing a game is irrelevant, but the fact they LEFT THEIR BABY ALONE AT HOME AND IT DIED is. It doesn't matter if they were drinking, gaming or screwing someone else in a love motel. They were negligent and as a result their baby is dead.

Plus your understanding American culture is very suspect. Do the majority of Americans scoff at pasttimes and relaxation? The only one I've ever met is my father. And from your comparison of the work ethics of "ANY other culture in the world", I can only assume you've never lived in Japan or Korea. Do you know that in Japanese they have a work that means "working yourself to death"? Do you know that in Korea they only recently legislated the introduction of a 5-day work and school week? American may still work more than most others, but they also know how to play.

 

[chowmein]

WoW = Drugs

 

[eigen]

Originally posted by: grrl

Originally posted by: eigen

Originally posted by: BrokenVisage

Originally posted by: eigen
1,000,000,000-1

Actually, I ran the numbers and came up with a 33.33% chance of that baby dying, with .33 repeating of course.

Nope...I mean one billion chinese people minus 1

Actually, this happened in Korea, so it's more like 48,000,000 - 1

Same difference, one less math wiz.

 

[grrl]

Originally posted by: eigen

Same difference, one less supposed math wiz.

Fixed

 

[dc]

Originally posted by: BrokenVisage

Originally posted by: eigen
1,000,000,000-1

Actually, I ran the numbers and came up with a 33.33% chance of that baby dying, with .33 repeating of course.

:Q
you had to bring leroy into this...
and it was 32.33%
:Q

 

[Schadenfroh]

those games are not addictive, that couple can quit playing whenever they want

 

[tami]

Originally posted by: Schadenfroh
those games are not addictive, that couple can quit playing whenever they want

catching up on old posts?

 

[captains]

Originally posted by: Wallydraigle
They must have leveled up or found some sweet booty.

hahahaha

 

[akubi]

Originally posted by: dc

Originally posted by: BrokenVisage

Originally posted by: eigen
1,000,000,000-1

Actually, I ran the numbers and came up with a 33.33% chance of that baby dying, with .33 repeating of course.

:Q
you had to bring leroy into this...
and it was 32.33%
:Q

hehe "the 33 repeating of course". I dunno why but I cracked up when I heard that in the vid.

 

[FlakPanzer]

ENOUGH OF THE D*MN QUOTE PYRAMIDS!!!!!

 

[knyghtbyte]

they should be prosecuted and banned from every having kids again.....they left the kid alone on its own.......nevermind SIDS, what if there was a fire? or a burglar? At least if you are in the house you can (possibly) prevent something bad happening, maybe not SIDS, but at least you can get out before the fire kills the baby or the burglar does lord knows what.........

as for it being cuz they were playing a game, thats got nothing to do with it, they could have been out at the cinema, restaurant or shopping......regardless, if you have a baby you either arrange a babysitter, or take the little person with you.....

i guess its trying to say people would only leave a baby alone to play an addictive game, but lets face it, if they can become addicted to a game they can just as easily become addicted to something else....so its their addictive nature thats at fault, not the game....

i think...lol

 

[BW86]

wow, just wow.

 

[BrokenVisage]

Originally posted by: FlakPanzer
ENOUGH OF THE D*MN QUOTE PYRAMIDS!!!!!

 

[NeoV]

there really are 2 seperate issues here

One is leaving your baby alone in a house by him/her self - you simply don't do it.

That said, this baby would have died, if in fact SIDS was the cause, if they were home in the next room or if they were sleeping in their room - unless they had one of those breathing monitors, which practically no one has.

 

[MAME]

haha, stupid baby!