Inexpensive PP&C silencer case fan

KaBudokan

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This isn't a HUGE deal, but... I was looking around for a couple of quiet case fans, and I came across the PP&C direct site.

They have their 80mm Silencer cooling fan on special for $9, which is a good price. What really makes the deal though, is the free ups shipping.

Save a few bucks on a nice quiet fan or two. :)

Silencer
 

larciel

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afaik .. this 'special' price was affective when i bought mine.. and that was over a year ago :)

 

Souka

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How do they compare to the Panaflo's? Looks like lower RPM, so prob less noise.....

Here's a nice place I've bought from before....and the panaflow LINK

 

MIDIman

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Before this thread gets super-long, there was one concerning this in late October I think. Most questions about this fan compared to the panaflo were all answered there.

In general, I personally have found that the silencer is definitely quieter, but doesn't produce as much air flow. I replaced my power supply's fan with both the panaflo and the silencer and I have higher CPU readings with the Silencer, but its IMHO quite a bit quieter.

I'm looking for the ultimate quiet 60mm fan...that's one thing I haven't seen recommendations on. I'm using a panaflo 60mm L1A, but its not quite quiet enough...
 

kenja

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Minimum order: $10. In "accessories" (second part of the order form) I recommend the half-dozen brass thumbscrews for $2. (Useful for I/O cards as well as cases.)

They also throw freebies in with every order: three thumbscrews, a couple of plastic 4-pin Molex connector caps, and a tube of white thermal "grease". I've got three Silencers; just wish they had an rpm sensor like the Panaflo.
 

tjames214

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I don't think the Panaflo's have RPM sensor though from what I've read about Panaflos in other posts.
 

tjames214

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nah I usually don't look for cheap parts, just quality parts. :)

EDIT: and after I know which quality parts I want, then I go hunting for the cheap deals! :p~
 

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<< I'm looking for the ultimate quiet 60mm fan...that's one thing I haven't seen recommendations on. I'm using a panaflo 60mm L1A, but its not quite quiet enough... >>


I recommend the Sanyo Denki Pico Ace 25 Model#109R0612M402 an extremely good quality and silent 60mm fan..
Airflow 13 CFM at 20 Db
Linky for you :)
 

MIDIman

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If I could find the panaflo spec sheet, I'd hand over a link - it clearly states RPM monitoring. When you get the fan, it is only two wires, however, all you have to do is add a third wire. Panaflos have very easily accessible molex connectors on both ends of its wires, and its quite simple to just throw in a third wire for rpm monitoring.
 

dirtrat

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<< In general, I personally have found that the silencer is definitely quieter, but doesn't produce as much air flow. I replaced my power supply's fan with both the panaflo and the silencer and I have higher CPU readings with the Silencer, but its IMHO quite a bit quieter. >>



Well if you compare the specifications, the silencer puts out MORE air than the panaflos and they are quieter. I just bought 3 of them. Low noise is important to me and the free shipping really made this a pretty good deal. I also heard the panaflos don't do the RPM readings!

 

RobSay

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I have 3 of these fans in my system including one on my heatsink for a Duron 600@900. It runs a bit warmer than I'd like but I'll take the heat anyday for the extra quiet these fans provide. Before these fans, I had sunon high output fans in my system and they sounded like a hair drier.
 

kenja

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The two 80mm Panaflos I bought from MPJA do not have working rpm sensors. The Panasonic web site lead me to believe otherwise, but both motherboards I tried them on report zero rpm.

From my experience, the Silencer is virtually equivalent to the Panaflo in terms of real-world airflow and noise. I mounted each on a funnel adapter attached to a 60mm square Coolermaster heatsink. For an 800MHz Duron, the idle temperature is 33C with the Silencer. On an 850MHz Thunderbird, the idle temperature is 37C with the Panaflo.
 

gogeeta13

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these fans are very weak, although it has a high CFM rating, when they are forced to push against something, their output drops drastically.
 

Giscardo

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From all the talk everywhere about quiet fans, I am finally getting curious, and pretty annoyed with the noise comming from my computer. I have an Enermax 330w PS with two fans. One of them is 'normal' size, the usual size of case and power supply fans. the Other is a bit larger. This one may be the one causing all the noise cause it's so big? Well I wouldn't mind trying these panaflows or silencers since they're so cheap.

My question is, what is 80mm, i don't have a ruler so i have to ask. Are 80mm fans the same size as normal case and power supply fans? does 80mm refer to the diameter of the fan blades or what? Would a single panaflow be better then the fan that's on my coolermaster heatsink? It's about a centimeter tall, and around 2.5 (maybe a little smaller) inches in diameter( fan blades). On the back of the fan it says 12v and .25amps.
 

Pyramor

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Giscardo,

Conversion: 25.4 mm = 1 inch. 80mm fan is slightly over 3 inches in diameter.
 

lucid00

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Giscardo:

your "normal" powersupply fan - 80mm
your "larger" powersupply fan - 92mm
your cpu fan - 60mm
 

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<< I'm looking for the ultimate quiet 60mm fan...that's one thing I haven't seen recommendations on. I'm using a panaflo 60mm L1A, but its not quite quiet enough... >>



Try adda fans from phamcomputer.com

I'm using the 13CFM@16dba (or was, till I dropped my tbird, and killed it.)
 

theshamu

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After reading through the thread, I'm convinced that I've been putting up with that noise cpu fan for too long!
I have a CoolerMaster HHC-001 cpu cooler (yes, the one with a heat pipe), which does a very good job at keeping my Athalon XP 1800+ at a steady 29oC, and even when I overclocked it to 1.7GHz, it still manages to keep the cpu @ ~34oC. However, this thing is LOUD!
My question is, can I remove and replace the fan easily from the heatsink? The current fan is rated at 6800 rpm/36.11cfm, if I go with one of the quiet fans, will I get enough cooling from lower airflow (e.g., 18 cfm vs. 36 cfm)?
 

J3anyus

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<< After reading through the thread, I'm convinced that I've been putting up with that noise cpu fan for too long!
I have a CoolerMaster HHC-001 cpu cooler (yes, the one with a heat pipe), which does a very good job at keeping my Athalon XP 1800+ at a steady 29oC, and even when I overclocked it to 1.7GHz, it still manages to keep the cpu @ ~34oC. However, this thing is LOUD!
My question is, can I remove and replace the fan easily from the heatsink? The current fan is rated at 6800 rpm/36.11cfm, if I go with one of the quiet fans, will I get enough cooling from lower airflow (e.g., 18 cfm vs. 36 cfm)?
>>



If you were to replace the fan on that heatsink, you would need to replace it with a standard 60mm fan. However, I wouldn't recommend it, unless you were to replace it with an even higher RPM fan. Copper conducts heat much better than aluminum, which is why it is used in high-end heatsinks such as the Coolermaster with the heat pipe. However, since copper conducts heat better, it needs more airflow to get the heat away. If you have a copper heatsink that you have a low RPM fan on, you won't get very good cooling, because the heatsink will become very hot and could potentially transfer some of that heat back to the CPU's core. Since aluminum doesn't conduct heat as well as copper, a low RPM fan on an aluminum heatsink will work perfectly. You can try going to a low RPM on your Coolermaster, but don't expect very good results.

J3
 

JameyF

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<< If I could find the panaflo spec sheet, I'd hand over a link - it clearly states RPM monitoring. When you get the fan, it is only two wires, however, all you have to do is add a third wire. Panaflos have very easily accessible molex connectors on both ends of its wires, and its quite simple to just throw in a third wire for rpm monitoring. >>



I see where the third wire would go, but are you sure of rpm monitoring sensor built into the fan itself on the bgmicro deal? I'm tempted to buy those three pin adapters from pcmods. If the sensor is built in, this will have the extra wire to carry that info to the board.