Indoctrination at University of Delaware

[RightIsWrong]

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY

Originally posted by: RightIsWrong

Originally posted by: OrganizedChaos

Originally posted by: Starbuck1975

The RAs have been taught that a "racist is one who is both privileged and socialized on the basis of race by a white supremacist (racist) system. The term applies to all white people (i.e., people of European descent) living in the United States, regardless of class, gender, religion, culture, or sexuality."

I especially love this little gem.

I am not familiar with FIRE as an organization, so I am not sure if they have an agenda of their own.

There is a thread going on Fark about this topic, and a couple of posters, who claimed to be students at the University of Delaware, claim that this indoctrination program does not exist.

Wouldn't surprise me if such a program does exist...liberal diversity initiatives tend to have an Orwellian slant to them.

http://hotair.com/archives/200...e-university-responds/

I kinda dismissed this guy's (the linked blogger) take on UD's response as soon as I saw that he called Ms. Malkin by "Michelle" only like he knows her personally. Then, along with it, I had to dismiss the fact that the quoted person took the time to actually post the link to the blogger's very slanted opinion of the story instead of just putting up the actual link to the university's response (which to the blogger's credit he did post on his site even though he only quoted part of it) as a not so subtle attempt to "indoctrinate" a little bit of his own.

Uhh - Malkin founded HotAir and Bryan and Allah seem to now do most of the day to day stuff. Not difficult info to find since you were looking for some ammo to use on the messenger.

Uhh...if you would have actually, I don't know...READ MY POST, you would have seen that I credit the "messenger" where appropriate (stating that they did link to the full response) and then proceed to ACCURATELY state that the blogger was posting from a blatantly biased slant. I'm sorry that I don't frequent the right-wing troll spots like you do to know that Malkin has franchised her lunacy.

Now, if you actually have anything on topic, please feel free to join the conversation.

 

[warmodder]

Hey everyone, I'm a freshman at the University of Delaware and joined just to put my two cents in. The policies the op posted are true to a certain extent, but the effects of the policies are grossly overstated. Firstly, I don't know what the racism statement is all about. We've never undergone anything like that and I've never personally been told that particular definition. While it's true there has been an emphasis on 'diversity', it hasn't quite been to that extreme.

The other statements are for the most part correct. We've been pressured to create a strange democracy on campus. In my residence complex (Laird for any delaware members) we've stated this program where each res hall has to draft a constitution and participate in hall events, but it's mostly bs. Everyone I know either blows it off or gives half-assed canned responses to get it out of the way. Sustainability is the largest concept discussed. Basically the University is bent on creating a green campus, and that passion boils down to res life.

We do have 1-on-1 meetings with the RA, but they amount to little more than an inconvenience where we talk about our adjustment to the university setting. They did tell us all these were mandatory...but no one could come up with any valid repercussions, so you can hardly be penalized for skipping--and we did it all the time!

The idea in my complex is basically to create a series of governments that runs the halls and makes decisions on behalf of the students. It doesn't have perfect execution, but the concept seems noble. My buddy was elected treasurer and he's basically given a few thousand dollars to work with. The president than comes up with creative ways to spend it...ie a pool table, piano, big screen, etc

I fail to see how my school is any different from other universities. It's a goofy program that more than likely won't last too long (due mostly to lack of participation), but it's not controlling or defining of students in anyways I can discern.

 

[Pabster]

Originally posted by: Fern
I don't know whether to laugh or what.

Who thinks this goofy sh!t up? And do people in college (students) now tolerate this stuff?

It's "tolerated" because of a ridiculous notion called tenure.

 

[Rainsford]

Originally posted by: Orsorum
I was an RA for four years at a large public university on the West coast, and I will say that I did not see anything of such caliber at the university while I was there. However, I know that the housing staff was predominately liberal; there was a clear focus on gay rights, respecting ethnic identities (often to an extreme), etc. Housing staff or residents who had conservative views usually did not stick around the residence halls for longer than a few years.

I lean towards a libertarian philosophy, with some very strong views on gay rights and the importance of respecting ethnic minorities. However, the attitudes promulgated by my superiors there really started to get to me after a while, because I CAN see and empathize with multiple viewpoints, without dismissing one out of hand or without getting hysterical. Not every person who thinks homosexuality is unnatural or sinful is a crackpot; not every person who opposes unchecked immigration is a hispaniphobe.

I remember getting into a screaming match once with a superior over the Duke Lacrosse scandal; his viewpoint was "well, of course they did it, how you could think they didn't? They're rich white jerks." Mine was... well, let's wait and see, and avoid vilifying anyone until we know the facts. We never did come to an agreement about the issues present when the case arose. I had to stop myself from sending a very snarky email when Nifong dropped the case and got brought up on ethics charges.

Oh boo, hoo. Part of college is finding out that not everyone has to share your exact outlook on life. For being such a "libertarian", you seem to have a problem with other philosophies being more popular among a particular group. College students tend to lean more liberal than conservative, that's how life works. Surely you're not suggesting there should be enforced ideology quotas, are you?

I hate this PC crap. You're not being oppressed every time someone disagrees with you, if anything, college should be a place to ENCOURAGE those kinds of discussions. There is a difference between holding another viewpoint and trying to force everyone to hold that viewpoint, and I wish you would learn the difference before complaining about it.

 

[Queasy]

University of Delaware responds to FIRE's accusations

FIRE responds to U of Delaware's response

U of Delaware terminates program

 

[Orsorum]

Originally posted by: Rainsford
Oh boo, hoo. Part of college is finding out that not everyone has to share your exact outlook on life. For being such a "libertarian", you seem to have a problem with other philosophies being more popular among a particular group. College students tend to lean more liberal than conservative, that's how life works. Surely you're not suggesting there should be enforced ideology quotas, are you?

I hate this PC crap. You're not being oppressed every time someone disagrees with you, if anything, college should be a place to ENCOURAGE those kinds of discussions. There is a difference between holding another viewpoint and trying to force everyone to hold that viewpoint, and I wish you would learn the difference before complaining about it.

Where did this come from?

 

[Rainsford]

Originally posted by: Orsorum

Originally posted by: Rainsford
Oh boo, hoo. Part of college is finding out that not everyone has to share your exact outlook on life. For being such a "libertarian", you seem to have a problem with other philosophies being more popular among a particular group. College students tend to lean more liberal than conservative, that's how life works. Surely you're not suggesting there should be enforced ideology quotas, are you?

I hate this PC crap. You're not being oppressed every time someone disagrees with you, if anything, college should be a place to ENCOURAGE those kinds of discussions. There is a difference between holding another viewpoint and trying to force everyone to hold that viewpoint, and I wish you would learn the difference before complaining about it.

Where did this come from?

Sorry, I realize this was a little overboard...and directed more at other people than at you (the straw that broke the camel's back, you know?).

Still, in a more reasonable tone, my point was that coming in contact with people with different viewpoints is not a bad thing, and it doesn't mean you're being persecuted or that the organization in question is biased...and I think people too often confuse the two. Your post, for example, was implying that your experience in college was somewhat comparable to this "indoctrination" story because there were a lot of liberals where you went to college, as if the very presence of people you disagreed with was a negative thing that should be "fixed". Now maybe this isn't what you meant, but a lot of people seem to blur the line between the two issues. Political indoctrination (which is NOT what was going on at Delaware) is a bad thing, being around people with different perspectives is a good thing.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

Originally posted by: Pabster

Originally posted by: Fern
I don't know whether to laugh or what.

Who thinks this goofy sh!t up? And do people in college (students) now tolerate this stuff?

It's "tolerated" because of a ridiculous notion called tenure.

Orly? Pray tell how.

 

[Fern]

Originally posted by: Queasy
University of Delaware responds to FIRE's accusations

FIRE responds to U of Delaware's response

U of Delaware terminates program

Bwahahaha. It's already terminated.:laugh:

Fern