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brycejones

Lifer
Oct 18, 2005
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. People who have been duped double down all the time. It's really hard to realize and admit that you were fooled. You. Were. Fooled.
So close to getting it……..

The irony of your post is that the source materials have been released along with the administration’s claims but the source materials don’t support those claims. They just assume you will be too lazy to read and it seems they are correct.
 
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nakedfrog

No Lifer
Apr 3, 2001
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It's not about Trump. It's about the intel establishment colluding with a political campaign to manufacture fake evidence to use against domestic political figures. I have no doubt that you'd notice it was wrong if it was going against your interests. I think the reason you guys can dismiss it right now is that your trusted sources simply aren't reporting on it. Give it some time. What's finally and clearly been revealed is that the whole Russia thing was fake all along, created out of thin air to deflect attention from the email server thing. This would have been business as usual if it had stayed confined to the Hillary campaign, but the fact that the FBI and CIA were instrumental in promulgating the fake intelligence is an extraordinary scandal. It's fine if you believe these claims to be false. People who have been duped double down all the time. It's really hard to realize and admit that you were fooled. You. Were. Fooled.
How do you feel about Maria Butina? More fake news?
 

fskimospy

Elite Member
Mar 10, 2006
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It's not about Trump. It's about the intel establishment colluding with a political campaign to manufacture fake evidence to use against domestic political figures. I have no doubt that you'd notice it was wrong if it was going against your interests. I think the reason you guys can dismiss it right now is that your trusted sources simply aren't reporting on it. Give it some time. What's finally and clearly been revealed is that the whole Russia thing was fake all along, created out of thin air to deflect attention from the email server thing. This would have been business as usual if it had stayed confined to the Hillary campaign, but the fact that the FBI and CIA were instrumental in promulgating the fake intelligence is an extraordinary scandal. It's fine if you believe these claims to be false. People who have been duped double down all the time. It's really hard to realize and admit that you were fooled. You. Were. Fooled.
This really shows the power of propaganda and motivated thinking.

Trump’s own son was caught red handed, literally in writing, colluding with the Russians.

The new ‘revelations’ here were debunked by your own special counsel.

You just live in a fantasy world. It’s sad.
 
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ivwshane

Lifer
May 15, 2000
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So close to getting it……..

When reality doesn’t agree with you just make up a new reality. Did you notice how he failed to address the other posts? In his mind, the president who has a history of literally creating fake news (prior to his political career), who has lied a ridiculous amount more than any current or past politicians (with fact checks to verify he was lying), who has a history of committing fraud (via a court of law), who’s own family members have admitted to contact with Russia and who he himself has admitted and publicly asked for help from Russia, that’s the guy he believes over the other people with no such history and who received lots of oversight.

Lol righties always be projecting!
 

UNCjigga

Lifer
Dec 12, 2000
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It's not about Trump. It's about the intel establishment colluding with a political campaign to manufacture fake evidence to use against domestic political figures. I have no doubt that you'd notice it was wrong if it was going against your interests. I think the reason you guys can dismiss it right now is that your trusted sources simply aren't reporting on it. Give it some time. What's finally and clearly been revealed is that the whole Russia thing was fake all along, created out of thin air to deflect attention from the email server thing.
None of this actually happened. None of it. This was the narrative the Trump camp seized on early in 2017 to deflect any calls for an investigation and keep Congress at bay after the intelligence report was published—also in January 2017!!

But when Mueller, and Durham, and the Senate Intel Committee investigated Trump’s allegations, none of it was proven. What evidence was fabricated??? How did they interfere with the election when we didn’t even know Crossfire Hurricane existed until after the election was certified?

Did you forget that the FBI informed first informed Obama and Trump about the Steele Dossier at the exact same time—and both camps kept a lid on it until after the election?? Hillary knew about the dossier after McCain’s camp handed it over but didn’t know about the FBI investigation until after the election—so even they said nothing about the Steele dossier publicly before Election Day.

If you want to talk about fake evidence—look know further than Tulsi fucking Gabbard. It’s been pointed out multiple times how she is disingenuously conflating the intelligence saying “Russia is not changing votes” vs. “Russia is/is not seeking to meddle in the election”.

Read real sources: https://static01.nyt.com/newsgraphics/documenttools/6d15e0e33b27f7e3/c842303b-full.pdf
 

crashtech

Lifer
Jan 4, 2013
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Our formerly trusted institutions have been captured by a false narrative that "has the ring of truth." Now that they're balls deep in the lies, there's really no way out. Someone will be set up to take the fall eventually, that's my prediction.
 

fskimospy

Elite Member
Mar 10, 2006
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Our formerly trusted institutions have been captured by a false narrative that "has the ring of truth." Now that they're balls deep in the lies, there's really no way out. Someone will be set up to take the fall eventually, that's my prediction.
After having learned that a bunch of your information was Russian misinfo and that Trump's own son publicly admitted to colluding with the Russian government has this made you reconsider how you were so badly duped?

Presumably someone lied to you to get you to believe this nonsense - does it make you want to not listen to them in the future?
 

IronWing

No Lifer
Jul 20, 2001
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Our formerly trusted institutions have been captured by a false narrative that "has the ring of truth." Now that they're balls deep in the lies, there's really no way out. Someone will be set up to take the fall eventually, that's my prediction.
You sure suck at living in the real world. Must be an endless source of shame for you that you are so easily duped by Nazis.
 

nakedfrog

No Lifer
Apr 3, 2001
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I have no feelings at all about her. I had to read up a bit. Is TNR not liberal enough for you to trust? I saw this:
I think it makes perfect sense that you had to read up a bit, and opted for a publication that has conservatism as part of its core identity.
 
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crashtech

Lifer
Jan 4, 2013
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I think it makes perfect sense that you had to read up a bit, and opted for a publication that has conservatism as part of its core identity.
Ah, yes, anything with even a whiff of conservatism is wrong and can be safely ignored. Why don't you ignore me, too? It's just a button push away.
 

nakedfrog

No Lifer
Apr 3, 2001
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Ah, yes, anything with even a whiff of conservatism is wrong and can be safely ignored. Why don't you ignore me, too? It's just a button push away.
"A whiff" of conservatism?
So, if you're so high-minded about it, why not engage with a news source that has "a whiff" of liberalism?
And why would I ignore you? Are you saying you're so intractably engaged with fascism there's no point in paying you any mind?
 
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trenchfoot

Lifer
Aug 5, 2000
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"A whiff" of conservatism?
So, if you're so high-minded about it, why not engage with a news source that has "a whiff" of liberalism?
And why would I ignore you? Are you saying you're so intractably engaged with fascism there's no point in paying you any mind?

"Conservatives" nowadays, of whom have lost any sense of what it used to refer to, have now transformed themselves or rather regressed themselves into a nest of Christo-fascist anachronisms as a means to defend themselves against the evolution of our nation where to them being equal is to be relegated with racism being the main reason for their feeling that way.

The Nixonian Southern Strategy gave them life beyond their reason for existing as a political entity. Their existentialist urges require them to cheat at every turn, to lie, to disinform, to loudly whisper the hate and fear of this enemy they conjured out of convenience so as to differentiate and thus seemingly perpetually elevate themselves above their perceived inferiors. They even set themselves up as the victims of the very system their own leaders created for them of which they've turned a blind eye to in order to justify the propaganda they've been conditioned to feel comfortable and secure with. Their rank file party members have become nothing more than foolish tools for their masters at the Federalist Society and the Heritage Foundation to destroy our democracy from within.
 

Amused

Elite Member
Apr 14, 2001
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I have no feelings at all about her. I had to read up a bit. Is TNR not liberal enough for you to trust? I saw this:

That's nice.

Except for the fact that SHE ADMITTED to being an agent for Russia to influence conservative politicians and Trump.

"A Russian woman accused of being a secret agent admitted Thursday that she conspired to infiltrate the American gun-rights movement to gather intelligence on conservative political groups as Donald Trump rose to power."


She took a plea deal because the evidence for her acting as a foreign agent and lying about it was over-fucking-whelming.
 

zinfamous

No Lifer
Jul 12, 2006
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It's not about Trump. It's about the intel establishment colluding with a political campaign to manufacture fake evidence to use against domestic political figures. I have no doubt that you'd notice it was wrong if it was going against your interests. I think the reason you guys can dismiss it right now is that your trusted sources simply aren't reporting on it. Give it some time. What's finally and clearly been revealed is that the whole Russia thing was fake all along, created out of thin air to deflect attention from the email server thing. This would have been business as usual if it had stayed confined to the Hillary campaign, but the fact that the FBI and CIA were instrumental in promulgating the fake intelligence is an extraordinary scandal. It's fine if you believe these claims to be false. People who have been duped double down all the time. It's really hard to realize and admit that you were fooled. You. Were. Fooled.

amazing how you are completely wrong about literally everything here. Completely incapable of challenging the fact that the "documents" you are referring are known to be fabricated, that the admitted collusion from the Trump family themselves, multiple fucking times, is somehow not real.

You're in a cult. your brain is mush. Who touched you?
 

zinfamous

No Lifer
Jul 12, 2006
111,720
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I have never supported pedophiles, and never wrote anything suggesting that I did.
Why do you troll, or are you sincere in the question and thus, also lost your mind?

You voted for Trump 3 times you fucking simp. Clear endorsement of known, admitted, pedophile rapists. You just are going to have to accept this plain fact. It's not my problem, you just have to live with your pedophile-loving self, and maybe wonder why you are actually OK with this, because that is now a plain fact of the world. It doesn't matter what you want to tell yourself--but you do support pedophiles. Hell, pretty much any vote for the GOp over the last couple of decades is progressing the pedophile agenda. You just have to listen to them and observe their plain filthy child-diddling behavior.

You may then want to ask yourself why you are surrounded by a party of child rapists. Because that is fact. Every single breath in defense of MAGA is allowing pedophiles and rapists to continue about their business. This is literally where you find yourself. A lot of normal humans would feel shame in this. Not you, apparently.