India's growing Westernization

[DragonMasterAlex]

Originally posted by: Drift3r
Looking at China's history the only times of unrest were when ancient China was not united and also when both Republic and Democratic style governments took over only to fall or be over thrown. China is a nation that thrives and desires a strong authoritative central government. History has proven this to be true.

Jefferson writes in the Declaration of Independence that "all experience hath shown, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed."

In other words, people are more likely to continue suffering even under great evil than they are to overthrow that evil, simply because it's what they are USED TO. The fact that China's people have always suffered under dictatorship is NO indication that its people "thrive on and desire" strong, authoritative central government. It's as simple as this: All they have EVER known is strong, authoritative central government. Most of the Chinese people can conceive of nothing else, much less actually DO something about it.

Jason

 

[Aimster]

Originally posted by: raildogg

Originally posted by: Aimster

Originally posted by: oslama

Originally posted by: raildogg

Originally posted by: oslama

Originally posted by: raildogg

Originally posted by: oslama
They are riding the technology wave because of cheap labor. The IT industry is fueling the growth but when other developing countries adapt and offer cheap skilled labor, India's IT bubble will burst. The problem is they are emulating the worst of western culture and values. The decentralization of the Indian family due to migration to hightech urban areas and the gap between the classes and caste (to some degree) is hurting traditonal values. There is a lack of foresight when it comes to handling this new found wealth and the strapings that come with it (comfort, convinience, pace of life).

Indians just see the wealth and glamour of western nations but do not see the hard work and practicality that westerners have to deal with on a daily basis. Indians are foolishly wasting their newfound wealth on eccesses of westernization

India does not have the social or economic balance to sustain growth and surely can not control its birth rate. India's GDP would be higher if its population was 30% lower.

Although the middleclass is growing and the neo-rich (IT, multinational) are getting richer, but the poor and the old rich are worst off.

before you spew more nonsense, India's birth rate is much lower than some of the other developing nations. India also has the worlds biggest middle class. I dont know where your getting your misguided info but its totally false

The birth rate is not comparative to population of other countries but rather the division of resources ie land, industry and economy. I don't give a rats arse about canada or iran or china population.

It adds almost 25 million people a year, population = to canada or australia. The *new* middle class is dependent on multinational corporation that may move out to other cheap labor countries. The industrial infrastructure is built to serve these MNC and not the common indian who has to scrap by to barely make ends meet.

Here's a kicker: I AM AN INDIAN born American.

A country that cannot feed, clothe or shelter its general population cannot grow.

not only India feeds its own citizens, its one of the leading exporters of food. maybe in your mind India is the same as it was 20 years ago, well its definately not.

why do we still see beggars and malnourished families all over india? The only people it feeds are the corrupt politicians and those who look the other way so they can also have piece of the meal ticket.

They export it to other countries because they can get $$$ rather than helping their own starving countrymen. We are the consumers that buy this exported food.

Twenty years ago there were ration cards and atleast majority of the people would get half's day meal.

Sadly this is the case in almost every country in that region. They ask you to please buy their junk so they can feed their family. The world doesn't see this because the world doesn't care.

there are beggers in every country, in India there may be more than lets say .... America. You cannot deny the fact that India has substantially improved over the last 20 years. millions of poor are being lifted out of poverty each year.

India used to be extremely poor, now its just poor. It cannot become rich overnight. Its gonna take another decade or so.

Will you STOP talking greatly about India in every single thread and creating dozens of threads about India. Either you are from India and love India so much or you want to be Indian to get an Indian woman. I don't know which one, but take your pick.

 

[Aimster]

Originally posted by: DragonMasterAlex

Originally posted by: Aimster
Sadly this is the case in almost every country in that region. They ask you to please buy their junk so they can feed their family. The world doesn't see this because the world doesn't care.

Talk about overdramatization. How about this: The world doesn't see it because get this: The rest of the world is far away from India, and jsut like India's people, the rest of the world's people have THEIR OWN LIVES to worry about.

Jason

You just made my point: "The rest of the world's people have their own LIVES to worry about" Therefore they do not care what happens over there.

 

[raildogg]

Originally posted by: Aimster
Will you STOP talking greatly about India in every single thread and creating dozens of threads about India. Either you are from India and love India so much or you want to be Indian to get an Indian woman. I don't know which one, but take your pick.

listen kid, I responded to that guys post. He listed all the negatives about India without giving the country any credit, i just responded thats it. And i dont create all threads about India. fvck off

*edit*

think i've created a couple threads of India, get your facts straight moron. the one i just created was about the tsunami virtually wiping out a lot of the ancient tribes living in India's remote Nicobar and Andaman Islands

 

[onix]

Originally posted by: KidViciou$
i don't think the porno thing is a westernization effect, young people have been having pre-marital sex for a long time. it's just been burshed under the rug and is now starting to surface

Agreed.

Consider if you will, if there is a lesser percentage homosexual population in India than in the West, even if it's not publicly spoken about?

 

[ScottFern]

Well boys and girls, I got what I asked for. I enrolled in POLS 349: Seminar "Development and Democracy in India"

We are pretty much going to hit on every aspect of India from social, ethnic, political, and economic functions to the progress of each over the last 50 years or so.

Prof. Dutt seems like a stickler, this guy does not mess around. He is old school indian to me and this course does not look to be easy whatsoever. I have pretty much floated around in my poly sci "classes" but this is the closet I have come to a grad school level course.

rant
When he first walked in, he told us how much he hated this course because most students did not have any background in India. Well, what do you want? How else are we supposed to learn? Sorry I missed India 101. It's teachers like him who feel they have no responsibility to make the class fun and interesting that give university's a bad name. If the man could learn to be straight forward in a positive manner maybe it students would be more responsive. O well.
/rant

 

[raildogg]

Originally posted by: ScottFern
Well boys and girls, I got what I asked for. I enrolled in POLS 349: Seminar "Development and Democracy in India"

We are pretty much going to hit on every aspect of India from social, ethnic, political, and economic functions to the progress of each over the last 50 years or so.

Prof. Dutt seems like a stickler, this guy does not mess around. He is old school indian to me and this course does not look to be easy whatsoever. I have pretty much floated around in my poly sci "classes" but this is the closet I have come to a grad school level course.

rant
When he first walked in, he told us how much he hated this course because most students did not have any background in India. Well, what do you want? How else are we supposed to learn? Sorry I missed India 101. It's teachers like him who feel they have no responsibility to make the class fun and interesting that give university's a bad name. If the man could learn to be straight forward in a positive manner maybe it students would be more responsive. O well.
/rant

nice LOL. this great thread is back

Have fun in that class, sounds like fun. Maybe you can educate us about India.

 

[ScottFern]

Originally posted by: raildogg

Originally posted by: ScottFern
Well boys and girls, I got what I asked for. I enrolled in POLS 349: Seminar "Development and Democracy in India"

We are pretty much going to hit on every aspect of India from social, ethnic, political, and economic functions to the progress of each over the last 50 years or so.

Prof. Dutt seems like a stickler, this guy does not mess around. He is old school indian to me and this course does not look to be easy whatsoever. I have pretty much floated around in my poly sci "classes" but this is the closet I have come to a grad school level course.

rant
When he first walked in, he told us how much he hated this course because most students did not have any background in India. Well, what do you want? How else are we supposed to learn? Sorry I missed India 101. It's teachers like him who feel they have no responsibility to make the class fun and interesting that give university's a bad name. If the man could learn to be straight forward in a positive manner maybe it students would be more responsive. O well.
/rant

nice LOL. this great thread is back

Have fun in that class, sounds like fun. Maybe you can educate us about India.

I hope so. I just hope he doesn't look at us all like ignorant Americans and just call on the 4 indian people in the class. Obviously they are all pre-validated to speak their opinions cuz they are brown. Who knows, I just don't hope the class turns out like that. I thought diversity was supposed to be fun.

 

[raildogg]

Originally posted by: ScottFern

Originally posted by: raildogg

Originally posted by: ScottFern
Well boys and girls, I got what I asked for. I enrolled in POLS 349: Seminar "Development and Democracy in India"

We are pretty much going to hit on every aspect of India from social, ethnic, political, and economic functions to the progress of each over the last 50 years or so.

Prof. Dutt seems like a stickler, this guy does not mess around. He is old school indian to me and this course does not look to be easy whatsoever. I have pretty much floated around in my poly sci "classes" but this is the closet I have come to a grad school level course.

rant
When he first walked in, he told us how much he hated this course because most students did not have any background in India. Well, what do you want? How else are we supposed to learn? Sorry I missed India 101. It's teachers like him who feel they have no responsibility to make the class fun and interesting that give university's a bad name. If the man could learn to be straight forward in a positive manner maybe it students would be more responsive. O well.
/rant

nice LOL. this great thread is back

Have fun in that class, sounds like fun. Maybe you can educate us about India.

I hope so. I just hope he doesn't look at us all like ignorant Americans and just call on the 4 indian people in the class. Obviously they are all pre-validated to speak their opinions cuz they are brown. Who knows, I just don't hope the class turns out like that. I thought diversity was supposed to be fun.

he might have been grumpy that one particular day. also I have heard that some Indian teachers treat their Indian students a bit differently than others, now I may be completely wrong here, but thats what I heard. This friend of mine who is Indian has a Indian female teacher in economics, and he says she somestimes talks to him in his native language and stuff.

Although she doesn't give him any advantage in terms of grading. I think being from the same country has a effect on a person, but that doesn't mean he or she is not fair.