India's growing Westernization

ScottFern

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My girlfriend is indian and india has been of interest of mine lately. I am trying to be worldly and explore other countries and their issues outside of my American shell.
What I have noticed is obvious, Eastern countries are very conservative socially and culturally. India fascinates me though. It is a secular capitalist state that is now entering its own tech boom(10 years late) and it is interesting seeing the society change along with the technology. Also at the same time it is facing a population crisis. I can definitely see India becoming a more economically powerful state in the near future. With over half the population under the age of 25 they have a large workforce.

But it is interesting to see them take on more Western ideals, which don't always have a positive impact. For one the news story this week of 2 teenagers filming their own mini porno.
http://edition.cnn.com/2004/TE...ay.ap/

It seems to be in this world of new globalization, more and more nations are being
"Westernized". I know its that demon word, but what do you guys think this new Westernization has on South Asia?

Good, bad, ugly?

Yes, unfair or not, most will associate this sex scandal as being a "Western thing" IMO. These things aren't discussed, talked about in piblic, or done in India up to this point in the past.
 

raildogg

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I've known about the sex scandal about the teens showing the movie on cellphones for a while now.

India is being westernized in the sense that more and more people are doing well financially and its increasingly becoming a major IT player.

Do you really think the kid thought about America or the west when he was filming the sex scenes?

interesting post though
 

Aimster

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I'll comment.

I don't see this as a sign they are becoming Westernized. Iran has 70%+ under the age of 25-30. That leads to problems of trying to find all the people jobs and having enough rooms in universities. Every country has prostitution. Every country has sex slaves and every country has girls who have sex outside marriage. This group just happend to film their actions and get caught being dirty.

What I heard about India is that they got a big loan and they invested that money on wires (fiber optics and telecommunications) and that helped boost their economy (some IT teacher told me this). However, if you look at India it is everything China "was".




 

ScottFern

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I don't know this type of thing seemed like it doesn't happen everyday over there. I am just commenting on how I see them.

In regard to the tech boom, I think they still have a chance to beat china in workforce and economic power.
 

raildogg

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Originally posted by: Aimster
I'll comment.

I don't see this as a sign they are becoming Westernized. Iran has 70%+ under the age of 25-30. That leads to problems of trying to find all the people jobs and having enough rooms in universities. Every country has prostitution. Every country has sex slaves and every country has girls who have sex outside marriage. This group just happend to film their actions and get caught being dirty.

What I heard about India is that they got a big loan and they invested that money on wires (fiber optics and telecommunications) and that helped boost their economy (some IT teacher told me this). However, if you look at India it is everything China "was".

you cant compare India to Iran. India is a democracy of a billion people, with one of the largest economies in the world. and it seems things are going stable for India for the past few years, as talks about war and subsided and less terrorist attacks have occured.

also, there is a great emphasis on education in India, which leads to a workforce much better suited for tomorrow's jobs
 

raildogg

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Originally posted by: ScottFern
My girlfriend is indian and india has been of interest of mine lately. I am trying to be worldly and explore other countries and their issues outside of my American shell.
What I have noticed is obvious, Eastern countries are very conservative socially and culturally. India fascinates me though. It is a secular capitalist state that is now entering its own tech boom(10 years late) and it is interesting seeing the society change along with the technology. Also at the same time it is facing a population crisis. I can definitely see India becoming a more economically powerful state in the near future. With over half the population under the age of 25 they have a large workforce.

But it is interesting to see them take on more Western ideals, which don't always have a positive impact. For one the news story this week of 2 teenagers filming their own mini porno.
http://edition.cnn.com/2004/TE...ay.ap/

It seems to be in this world of new globalization, more and more nations are being
"Westernized". I know its that demon word, but what do you guys think this new Westernization has on South Asia?

Good, bad, ugly?

Yes, unfair or not, most will associate this sex scandal as being a "Western thing" IMO. These things aren't discussed, talked about in piblic, or done in India up to this point in the past.

one more thing, i believe birth rates have dropped off in India recently.
 

Aimster

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Originally posted by: raildogg
Originally posted by: Aimster
I'll comment.

I don't see this as a sign they are becoming Westernized. Iran has 70%+ under the age of 25-30. That leads to problems of trying to find all the people jobs and having enough rooms in universities. Every country has prostitution. Every country has sex slaves and every country has girls who have sex outside marriage. This group just happend to film their actions and get caught being dirty.

What I heard about India is that they got a big loan and they invested that money on wires (fiber optics and telecommunications) and that helped boost their economy (some IT teacher told me this). However, if you look at India it is everything China "was".

you cant compare India to Iran. India is a democracy of a billion people, with one of the largest economies in the world. and it seems things are going stable for India for the past few years, as talks about war and subsided and less terrorist attacks have occured.

also, there is a great emphasis on education in India, which leads to a workforce much better suited for tomorrow's jobs

1 billion people+ / GDP = less per capita.
Iran's economy is growing at a fast rate of 5.5% while India's is growing at 6.5%. Iran too has a very well established education system, but the jobs are not there. Most of the Indian economy is self-employed (60%). What percent of India is actually above the poverty line? In India more than 40% of the population is illiterate.
Iran's GDP 550-600Billion , with 70 million people
India's GDP 2.2Triillion with 1.1Billion+ people.


 

raildogg

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Originally posted by: CubicZirconia
CIA World Factbook: Per Capita GDP

#99: Iran - $7,000

#156: India - $2,900

wow you people just cant compare Iran and India. I agree per capita India is behind Iran, but in every other way, India is ahead. Iran is a tyranny, remember that. Millions of people in India are being pulled out of the poverty line each year
 

Aimster

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Originally posted by: raildogg
Originally posted by: CubicZirconia
CIA World Factbook: Per Capita GDP

#99: Iran - $7,000

#156: India - $2,900

wow you people just cant compare Iran and India. I agree per capita India is behind Iran, but in every other way, India is ahead. Iran is a tyranny, remember that. Millions of people in India are being pulled out of the poverty line each year

40% cannot read or write. That is significant for any country. Even if millions are still being pulled out of poverty, the population still has 400 million that cannot read! Per Capita shows the standard of living for each person. With Iran and India basically having the same growth rate, I don't see how India can ever surpass Iran's GDP per capita in the near future.

Just because India is a democracy does not mean they are better. China is by no means a democracy and they are doing very well. Look at the history of Russia. Look at what Russia is becoming again today. I'm talking in terms of economy.

How is India ahead of Iran when 40% of the population cannot read/write? When 60% of the population is self-employeed? The only thing India has that is better than most of the world is a strong telecommunications system. If that makes a country superior to everyone else then I guess whoever believes that can say India is the greatest nation in the world. With their large population (and GDP), the government has more spending money. What they do with that money is up to them.

My point was not to start a India vs Iran fight. I could careless about both countries, I don't live there. My point was with a large young population there will not always be jobs. The wealth in India is not divided evenly. Look back to the Great Depression of the U.S. One of the reasons was .01% of the United States had almost all the money.

Imagine if the United States was 70% under the age of 30. Unemployment would be well above 5% and universities would be unable to educated all the people. Even today, the Universities take in only people who meet their goals. What would happen when 100million+ students are competiting for the schools? Millions will be unable to go to school because the schools will be packed. Even the ones who are able to go to schools, how will they get jobs? If 100 million more people were added to our economy right now, we would have a disaster. Many would take in low paying jobs.
 

athithi

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Originally posted by: Aimster
Originally posted by: raildogg
Originally posted by: CubicZirconia
CIA World Factbook: Per Capita GDP

#99: Iran - $7,000

#156: India - $2,900

wow you people just cant compare Iran and India. I agree per capita India is behind Iran, but in every other way, India is ahead. Iran is a tyranny, remember that. Millions of people in India are being pulled out of the poverty line each year

40% cannot read or write. That is significant for any country. Even if millions are still being pulled out of poverty, the population still has 400 million that cannot read! Per Capita shows the standard of living for each person. With Iran and India basically having the same growth rate, I don't see how India can ever surpass Iran's GDP per capita in the near future.

Just because India is a democracy does not mean they are better. China is by no means a democracy and they are doing very well. Look at the history of Russia. Look at what Russia is becoming again today. I'm talking in terms of economy.

How is India ahead of Iran when 40% of the population cannot read/write? When 60% of the population is self-employeed? The only thing India has that is better than most of the world is a strong telecommunications system. If that makes a country superior to everyone else then I guess whoever believes that can say India is the greatest nation in the world. With their large population (and GDP), the government has more spending money. What they do with that money is up to them.

My point was not to start a India vs Iran fight. I could careless about both countries, I don't live there. My point was with a large young population there will not always be jobs. The wealth in India is not divided evenly. Look back to the Great Depression of the U.S. One of the reasons was .01% of the United States had almost all the money.

Imagine if the United States was 70% under the age of 30. Unemployment would be well above 5% and universities would be unable to educated all the people. Even today, the Universities take in only people who meet their goals. What would happen when 100million+ students are competiting for the schools? Millions will be unable to go to school because the schools will be packed. Even the ones who are able to go to schools, how will they get jobs? If 100 million more people were added to our economy right now, we would have a disaster. Many would take in low paying jobs.

Gee, I wish I was Iranian :roll:
 

Aimster

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Originally posted by: athithi
Originally posted by: Aimster
Originally posted by: raildogg
Originally posted by: CubicZirconia
CIA World Factbook: Per Capita GDP

#99: Iran - $7,000

#156: India - $2,900

wow you people just cant compare Iran and India. I agree per capita India is behind Iran, but in every other way, India is ahead. Iran is a tyranny, remember that. Millions of people in India are being pulled out of the poverty line each year

40% cannot read or write. That is significant for any country. Even if millions are still being pulled out of poverty, the population still has 400 million that cannot read! Per Capita shows the standard of living for each person. With Iran and India basically having the same growth rate, I don't see how India can ever surpass Iran's GDP per capita in the near future.

Just because India is a democracy does not mean they are better. China is by no means a democracy and they are doing very well. Look at the history of Russia. Look at what Russia is becoming again today. I'm talking in terms of economy.

How is India ahead of Iran when 40% of the population cannot read/write? When 60% of the population is self-employeed? The only thing India has that is better than most of the world is a strong telecommunications system. If that makes a country superior to everyone else then I guess whoever believes that can say India is the greatest nation in the world. With their large population (and GDP), the government has more spending money. What they do with that money is up to them.

My point was not to start a India vs Iran fight. I could careless about both countries, I don't live there. My point was with a large young population there will not always be jobs. The wealth in India is not divided evenly. Look back to the Great Depression of the U.S. One of the reasons was .01% of the United States had almost all the money.

Imagine if the United States was 70% under the age of 30. Unemployment would be well above 5% and universities would be unable to educated all the people. Even today, the Universities take in only people who meet their goals. What would happen when 100million+ students are competiting for the schools? Millions will be unable to go to school because the schools will be packed. Even the ones who are able to go to schools, how will they get jobs? If 100 million more people were added to our economy right now, we would have a disaster. Many would take in low paying jobs.

Gee, I wish I was Iranian :roll:

Stop trying to turn this into an Iran vs Indian thread. Your comment was uncalled for. Go back to off-topic.
 

KidViciou$

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i don't think the porno thing is a westernization effect, young people have been having pre-marital sex for a long time. it's just been burshed under the rug and is now starting to surface
 

athithi

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Originally posted by: Aimster

Stop trying to turn this into an Iran vs Indian thread. Your comment was uncalled for. Go back to off-topic.

You started it and you know it.

 

Aimster

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Originally posted by: athithi
Originally posted by: Aimster

Stop trying to turn this into an Iran vs Indian thread. Your comment was uncalled for. Go back to off-topic.

You started it and you know it.

Hey smart one how did I start it? Why don't you show me how I turned this into an India vs Iran thread since you think you know it all. I was comparing India's population growth with that of Irans. They have have a large young population. Then someone said you cannot compare the two and I explained to them why I thought you could.

You just got offended because you thought I was disrespecting your people by saying that 40% of the population cannot read/write. That is my fault now? I guess we should never bring up India's education system because if you bring it up we are "insulting" Indian people.

Show me how I said Iran was superior to India or how I said India was less superior to Iran. That's what I thought. If you have facts to dispute with me then go ahead and present them. If you get offended by the information I presented to you in this thead then that's not my problem. Go do something about it if it is digging a hole in your stomach.

Your immature comment was just that :immature: and pointless.

I wasn't even saying anything nice about Iran either.
 

athithi

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Originally posted by: Aimster
Originally posted by: athithi
Originally posted by: Aimster

Stop trying to turn this into an Iran vs Indian thread. Your comment was uncalled for. Go back to off-topic.

You started it and you know it.

Hey smart one how did I start it? Why don't you show me how I turned this into an India vs Iran thread since you think you know it all. I was comparing India's population growth with that of Irans. They have have a large young population. Then someone said you cannot compare the two and I explained to them why I thought you could.

You just got offended because you thought I was disrespecting your people by saying that 40% of the population cannot read/write. That is my fault now? I guess we should never bring up India's education system because if you bring it up we are "insulting" Indian people.

Show me how I said Iran was superior to India or how I said India was less superior to Iran. That's what I thought. If you have facts to dispute with me then go ahead and present them. If you get offended by the information I presented to you in this thead then that's not my problem. Go do something about it if it is digging a hole in your stomach.

Your immature comment was just that :immature: and pointless.

I wasn't even saying anything nice about Iran either.

Nobody said anything about Iran until you *first* brought it up and raildogg responded that you can't compare India and Iran - you were the one that brought Iran up in a thread about India and when I sarcastically pointed out that I'd rather be Indian than Iranian, you got your panties in a bunch. I think you are seeking some sort of approval from me. For every sentence I type, you write a novella in return :laugh:
 

raildogg

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Originally posted by: Aimster
Originally posted by: athithi
Originally posted by: Aimster

Stop trying to turn this into an Iran vs Indian thread. Your comment was uncalled for. Go back to off-topic.

You started it and you know it.

Hey smart one how did I start it? Why don't you show me how I turned this into an India vs Iran thread since you think you know it all. I was comparing India's population growth with that of Irans. They have have a large young population. Then someone said you cannot compare the two and I explained to them why I thought you could.

You just got offended because you thought I was disrespecting your people by saying that 40% of the population cannot read/write. That is my fault now? I guess we should never bring up India's education system because if you bring it up we are "insulting" Indian people.

Show me how I said Iran was superior to India or how I said India was less superior to Iran. That's what I thought. If you have facts to dispute with me then go ahead and present them. If you get offended by the information I presented to you in this thead then that's not my problem. Go do something about it if it is digging a hole in your stomach.

Your immature comment was just that :immature: and pointless.

I wasn't even saying anything nice about Iran either.

India has one of the better education systems in the world. More and more of the rural people are going to schools and colleges. India has a billion people, things progress slowly.

But one thing is for sure, India of ten years ago is not the India of today.
 

Aimster

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Originally posted by: athithi
Originally posted by: Aimster
Originally posted by: athithi
Originally posted by: Aimster

Stop trying to turn this into an Iran vs Indian thread. Your comment was uncalled for. Go back to off-topic.

You started it and you know it.

Hey smart one how did I start it? Why don't you show me how I turned this into an India vs Iran thread since you think you know it all. I was comparing India's population growth with that of Irans. They have have a large young population. Then someone said you cannot compare the two and I explained to them why I thought you could.

You just got offended because you thought I was disrespecting your people by saying that 40% of the population cannot read/write. That is my fault now? I guess we should never bring up India's education system because if you bring it up we are "insulting" Indian people.

Show me how I said Iran was superior to India or how I said India was less superior to Iran. That's what I thought. If you have facts to dispute with me then go ahead and present them. If you get offended by the information I presented to you in this thead then that's not my problem. Go do something about it if it is digging a hole in your stomach.

Your immature comment was just that :immature: and pointless.

I wasn't even saying anything nice about Iran either.

Nobody said anything about Iran until you *first* brought it up and raildogg responded that you can't compare India and Iran - you were the one that brought Iran up in a thread about India and when I sarcastically pointed out that I'd rather be Indian than Iranian, you got your panties in a bunch. I think you are seeking some sort of approval from me. For every sentence I type, you write a novella in return :laugh:

I was comparing Iran's problems of having a young population boom with potential problems India could and will face. How is that not allowed in this thread? So now I cannot compare a young population boom in India to a young population boom in Iran? Was I even comparing the people for you to say I rather be an Indian than an Iranian?

You can want to be a monkey for all I care, I'm not seeking your approval on anything. You can keep that to yourself as it does nothing good for this thread. It's like two people having a discussion and then out of the blue someone pops up says something that has no basis to anything and then leaves. How is that mature?

Me and raildogg are simply exchanging difference of opinions. Thats what people do in P&N. Not come in and say something so immature like a kid and then disappear. If you want to join the discussion go ahead and share your opinions supported with facts if you want and you'll be taken seriously.

 

athithi

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Originally posted by: Aimster
Originally posted by: athithi
Originally posted by: Aimster
Originally posted by: athithi
Originally posted by: Aimster

Stop trying to turn this into an Iran vs Indian thread. Your comment was uncalled for. Go back to off-topic.

You started it and you know it.

Hey smart one how did I start it? Why don't you show me how I turned this into an India vs Iran thread since you think you know it all. I was comparing India's population growth with that of Irans. They have have a large young population. Then someone said you cannot compare the two and I explained to them why I thought you could.

You just got offended because you thought I was disrespecting your people by saying that 40% of the population cannot read/write. That is my fault now? I guess we should never bring up India's education system because if you bring it up we are "insulting" Indian people.

Show me how I said Iran was superior to India or how I said India was less superior to Iran. That's what I thought. If you have facts to dispute with me then go ahead and present them. If you get offended by the information I presented to you in this thead then that's not my problem. Go do something about it if it is digging a hole in your stomach.

Your immature comment was just that :immature: and pointless.

I wasn't even saying anything nice about Iran either.

Nobody said anything about Iran until you *first* brought it up and raildogg responded that you can't compare India and Iran - you were the one that brought Iran up in a thread about India and when I sarcastically pointed out that I'd rather be Indian than Iranian, you got your panties in a bunch. I think you are seeking some sort of approval from me. For every sentence I type, you write a novella in return :laugh:

I was comparing Iran's problems of having a young population boom with potential problems India could and will face. How is that not allowed in this thread? So now I cannot compare a young population boom in India to a young population boom in Iran? Was I even comparing the people for you to say I rather be an Indian than an Iranian?

You can want to be a monkey for all I care, I'm not seeking your approval on anything. You can keep that to yourself as it does nothing good for this thread. It's like two people having a discussion and then out of the blue someone pops up says something that has no basis to anything and then leaves. How is that mature?

Me and raildogg are simply exchanging difference of opinions. Thats what people do in P&N. Not come in and say something so immature like a kid and then disappear. If you want to join the discussion go ahead and share your opinions supported with facts if you want and you'll be taken seriously.

I wonder what you would do if I wrote a really long post :D I bet you'd be up all night responding :p Ideas and opinions can be expressed succintly or in long, rambling responses. 'I'd rather be Indian than Iranian' says so much more than is apparent to you. Let me express it a little differently: I bet the downtrodden in India are better off than the downtrodden in Iran! (Tip: At this point of time, please look up the word 'sardonic' in the dictionary) Oh, btw, learing to read Arabic so you can memorize the Quran is not a whole lot better than being illiterate :roll:

What I heard about India is that they got a big loan and they invested that money on wires (fiber optics and telecommunications) and that helped boost their economy (some IT teacher told me this). However, if you look at India it is everything China "was".

Sheesh, did you even think before you posted that?!!! Some country bought and installed a lot of wires and all its workforce educated themselves and started using those "wires" to boost the economy. And you want me to respond to this view of yours? :roll: Perhaps, I will - what you didn't hear about India is that the government for a frickin' change didn't try to over-regulate the IT industry. That inconsequential little thing called Democracy and its little cousin Capitalism took care of the rest.

India, thankfully, is NOT anything that China was or is, except a victim of British imperialism. Yes, India is behind China economically and it can learn a few things from the Chinese. But its best lessons, it learned from the United States (unfortunately, not enough of it, though). I'd rather India became a fraction of what the US is than become anything like China. Now, Iran and China, on the other hand - simply made for each other :heart:

EDIT: Heh, and we are not part of the 'Axis of Evilllllll!!' :laugh:
 

Aimster

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Nice pride you have. It's just a shame you aren't in India to truely satisfy that pride of yours.
I love how you bash everyone and everything .

I rather be white than black. I wonder how many white people can get away with saying that here on these forums.

Oh well.. enjoy your pride and your views.

Racism and hate is an illness. Looking at your other post, you sure do hate anyone who isn't Indian. Especially people from Muslim countries.

Aren't you that same fool who said that the India's Muslim population was bringing India down? That they were poor and uneducated. Funny how 120 million Muslims is the cause of 400 million uneducated Indians.

What's with the hate on anandtech? People don't even have a reason for their hate they just love to blame their problems on other people.
 

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Originally posted by: athithi
Originally posted by: Aimster
Originally posted by: athithi
Originally posted by: Aimster
Originally posted by: athithi
Originally posted by: Aimster

Stop trying to turn this into an Iran vs Indian thread. Your comment was uncalled for. Go back to off-topic.

You started it and you know it.

Hey smart one how did I start it? Why don't you show me how I turned this into an India vs Iran thread since you think you know it all. I was comparing India's population growth with that of Irans. They have have a large young population. Then someone said you cannot compare the two and I explained to them why I thought you could.

You just got offended because you thought I was disrespecting your people by saying that 40% of the population cannot read/write. That is my fault now? I guess we should never bring up India's education system because if you bring it up we are "insulting" Indian people.

Show me how I said Iran was superior to India or how I said India was less superior to Iran. That's what I thought. If you have facts to dispute with me then go ahead and present them. If you get offended by the information I presented to you in this thead then that's not my problem. Go do something about it if it is digging a hole in your stomach.

Your immature comment was just that :immature: and pointless.

I wasn't even saying anything nice about Iran either.

Nobody said anything about Iran until you *first* brought it up and raildogg responded that you can't compare India and Iran - you were the one that brought Iran up in a thread about India and when I sarcastically pointed out that I'd rather be Indian than Iranian, you got your panties in a bunch. I think you are seeking some sort of approval from me. For every sentence I type, you write a novella in return :laugh:

I was comparing Iran's problems of having a young population boom with potential problems India could and will face. How is that not allowed in this thread? So now I cannot compare a young population boom in India to a young population boom in Iran? Was I even comparing the people for you to say I rather be an Indian than an Iranian?

You can want to be a monkey for all I care, I'm not seeking your approval on anything. You can keep that to yourself as it does nothing good for this thread. It's like two people having a discussion and then out of the blue someone pops up says something that has no basis to anything and then leaves. How is that mature?

Me and raildogg are simply exchanging difference of opinions. Thats what people do in P&N. Not come in and say something so immature like a kid and then disappear. If you want to join the discussion go ahead and share your opinions supported with facts if you want and you'll be taken seriously.

I wonder what you would do if I wrote a really long post :D I bet you'd be up all night responding :p Ideas and opinions can be expressed succintly or in long, rambling responses. 'I'd rather be Indian than Iranian' says so much more than is apparent to you. Let me express it a little differently: I bet the downtrodden in India are better off than the downtrodden in Iran! (Tip: At this point of time, please look up the word 'sardonic' in the dictionary) Oh, btw, learing to read Arabic so you can memorize the Quran is not a whole lot better than being illiterate :roll:

What I heard about India is that they got a big loan and they invested that money on wires (fiber optics and telecommunications) and that helped boost their economy (some IT teacher told me this). However, if you look at India it is everything China "was".

Sheesh, did you even think before you posted that?!!! Some country bought and installed a lot of wires and all its workforce educated themselves and started using those "wires" to boost the economy. And you want me to respond to this view of yours? :roll: Perhaps, I will - what you didn't hear about India is that the government for a frickin' change didn't try to over-regulate the IT industry. That inconsequential little thing called Democracy and its little cousin Capitalism took care of the rest.

India, thankfully, is NOT anything that China was or is, except a victim of British imperialism. Yes, India is behind China economically and it can learn a few things from the Chinese. But its best lessons, it learned from the United States (unfortunately, not enough of it, though). I'd rather India became a fraction of what the US is than become anything like China. Now, Iran and China, on the other hand - simply made for each other :heart:

EDIT: Heh, and we are not part of the 'Axis of Evilllllll!!' :laugh:

India sucks! Pakistan is the way of future for south Asia.
 

Aimster

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Originally posted by: ManSnake
Originally posted by: athithi
Originally posted by: Aimster
Originally posted by: athithi
Originally posted by: Aimster
Originally posted by: athithi
Originally posted by: Aimster

Stop trying to turn this into an Iran vs Indian thread. Your comment was uncalled for. Go back to off-topic.

You started it and you know it.

Hey smart one how did I start it? Why don't you show me how I turned this into an India vs Iran thread since you think you know it all. I was comparing India's population growth with that of Irans. They have have a large young population. Then someone said you cannot compare the two and I explained to them why I thought you could.

You just got offended because you thought I was disrespecting your people by saying that 40% of the population cannot read/write. That is my fault now? I guess we should never bring up India's education system because if you bring it up we are "insulting" Indian people.

Show me how I said Iran was superior to India or how I said India was less superior to Iran. That's what I thought. If you have facts to dispute with me then go ahead and present them. If you get offended by the information I presented to you in this thead then that's not my problem. Go do something about it if it is digging a hole in your stomach.

Your immature comment was just that :immature: and pointless.

I wasn't even saying anything nice about Iran either.

Nobody said anything about Iran until you *first* brought it up and raildogg responded that you can't compare India and Iran - you were the one that brought Iran up in a thread about India and when I sarcastically pointed out that I'd rather be Indian than Iranian, you got your panties in a bunch. I think you are seeking some sort of approval from me. For every sentence I type, you write a novella in return :laugh:

I was comparing Iran's problems of having a young population boom with potential problems India could and will face. How is that not allowed in this thread? So now I cannot compare a young population boom in India to a young population boom in Iran? Was I even comparing the people for you to say I rather be an Indian than an Iranian?

You can want to be a monkey for all I care, I'm not seeking your approval on anything. You can keep that to yourself as it does nothing good for this thread. It's like two people having a discussion and then out of the blue someone pops up says something that has no basis to anything and then leaves. How is that mature?

Me and raildogg are simply exchanging difference of opinions. Thats what people do in P&N. Not come in and say something so immature like a kid and then disappear. If you want to join the discussion go ahead and share your opinions supported with facts if you want and you'll be taken seriously.

I wonder what you would do if I wrote a really long post :D I bet you'd be up all night responding :p Ideas and opinions can be expressed succintly or in long, rambling responses. 'I'd rather be Indian than Iranian' says so much more than is apparent to you. Let me express it a little differently: I bet the downtrodden in India are better off than the downtrodden in Iran! (Tip: At this point of time, please look up the word 'sardonic' in the dictionary) Oh, btw, learing to read Arabic so you can memorize the Quran is not a whole lot better than being illiterate :roll:

What I heard about India is that they got a big loan and they invested that money on wires (fiber optics and telecommunications) and that helped boost their economy (some IT teacher told me this). However, if you look at India it is everything China "was".

Sheesh, did you even think before you posted that?!!! Some country bought and installed a lot of wires and all its workforce educated themselves and started using those "wires" to boost the economy. And you want me to respond to this view of yours? :roll: Perhaps, I will - what you didn't hear about India is that the government for a frickin' change didn't try to over-regulate the IT industry. That inconsequential little thing called Democracy and its little cousin Capitalism took care of the rest.

India, thankfully, is NOT anything that China was or is, except a victim of British imperialism. Yes, India is behind China economically and it can learn a few things from the Chinese. But its best lessons, it learned from the United States (unfortunately, not enough of it, though). I'd rather India became a fraction of what the US is than become anything like China. Now, Iran and China, on the other hand - simply made for each other :heart:

EDIT: Heh, and we are not part of the 'Axis of Evilllllll!!' :laugh:

India sucks! Pakistan is the way of future for south Asia.

You just started world war III with him. You two have fun.