Indian Users

[mugs]

That's not rude...

Is this ICRS's second account?

 

[dougp]

Do the needful became a frequently used term around my old job to make fun of our brethren in arms over in India. We'd actually tack it on to tickets we pushed back to them when we got tired of them not doing their job - we'd also use the phrase when going to the restroom.


"Brb, doing the neeful."

God I hate that fuckin phrase.

 

[Train]

Originally posted by: RESmonkey
The world should slowly move towards speaking a single universal language.

we will once we decide on which of the two finalists, lolcat or ebonics, will become the new universal lang.

 

[StormRider]

Originally posted by: skyking
Just another example of english being the language of international industry, and us native speakers expecting perfection.
I made an inquiry about a software product out of Germany. A doctor over there replied with:
"Thank you for your request. Joe Blow will contact you shortly to
discuss your demands."

I understood what he meant, but felt compelled to offer this:

"Hello Ralph,
I thought you could use a little clarification on english usage. This is meant to be friendly advice, nothing more.
When using 'demands' in a sentence like the one you made, it implies a confrontational or adversarial relationship, like a lawyer suing someone.
A better word in this case would be 'requirements'.
"Joe Blow will contact you shortly to discuss your requirements."

Thank you and I look forward to hearing from Joe.
sincerely,"

If I were German I would have found that reply to be rude -- like you were talking down to me as if I were a dummy.

 

[MisterJackson]

They do it on purpose. It's just payback for Americans yelling at them over the phone all of these years when we call tech support.

 

[rh71]

We have a ton of indians here and that's the 1st time I've heard that phrase. He was being polite as he said please. It actually takes consideration to use that word too.

 

[MrDudeMan]

Originally posted by: rh71
We have a ton of indians here and that's the 1st time I've heard that phrase. He was being polite as he said please. It actually takes consideration to use that word too.

Consider this statement: "Please go fuck yourself"

You're right. You can't ever use the word please without the sentence automatically being polite.

If you could, please tell me what is so hard to understand about using the word please in a sarcastic, passive aggressive way? I'm not saying the guy was doing this, but your blanket statement is pretty much wrong.

 

[andy04]

India is a country of cut throat compitition. Things like knowledge sharing and etiquettes at work place are taboos... they just cant help it... plus due to the recent inflow of US jobs they have become more arrogant. They think they are more intelligent them Americans and jobs are going there bzoc we are dumbasses... They dont realize that its coz they are cheap ass ppl... Just deal with it... its just the tip of the iceburgs. If the CEOs have their way we soon will be flooded with these...

 

[IEC]

At least he didn't say:

REQUEST FOR URGENT BUSINESS RELATIONSHIP

FIRST, I MUST SOLICIT YOUR STRICTEST CONFIDENCE IN THIS TRANSACTION. THIS IS BY VIRTUE OF ITS NATURE AS BEING UTTERLY CONFIDENTIAL AND 'TOP SECRET'. I AM SURE AND HAVE CONFIDENCE OF YOUR ABILITY AND RELIABILITY TO PROSECUTE A TRANSACTION OF THIS GREAT MAGNITUDE INVOLVING A PENDING TRANSACTION REQUIRING MAXIIMUM CONFIDENCE.

WE ARE TOP OFFICIAL OF THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT CONTRACT REVIEW PANEL WHO ARE INTERESTED IN IMPORATION OF GOODS INTO OUR COUNTRY WITH FUNDS WHICH ARE PRESENTLY TRAPPED IN NIGERIA. IN ORDER TO COMMENCE THIS BUSINESS WE SOLICIT YOUR ASSISTANCE TO ENABLE US TRANSFER INTO YOUR ACCOUNT THE SAID TRAPPED FUNDS.

THE SOURCE OF THIS FUND IS AS FOLLOWS; DURING THE LAST MILITARY REGIME HERE IN NIGERIA, THE GOVERNMENT OFFICIALS SET UP COMPANIES AND AWARDED THEMSELVES CONTRACTS WHICH WERE GROSSLY OVER-INVOICED IN VARIOUS MINISTRIES. THE PRESENT CIVILIAN GOVERNMENT SET UP A CONTRACT REVIEW PANEL AND WE HAVE IDENTIFIED A LOT OF INFLATED CONTRACT FUNDS WHICH ARE PRESENTLY FLOATING IN THE CENTRAL BANK OF NIGERIA READY FOR PAYMENT.

HOWEVER, BY VIRTUE OF OUR POSITION AS CIVIL SERVANTS AND MEMBERS OF THIS PANEL, WE CANNOT ACQUIRE THIS MONEY IN OUR NAMES. I HAVE THEREFORE, BEEN DELEGATED AS A MATTER OF TRUST BY MY COLLEAGUES OF THE PANEL TO LOOK FOR AN OVERSEAS PARTNER INTO WHOSE ACCOUNT WE WOULD TRANSFER THE SUM OF US$21,320,000.00(TWENTY ONE MILLION, THREE HUNDRED AND TWENTY THOUSAND U.S DOLLARS). HENCE WE ARE WRITING YOU THIS LETTER. WE HAVE AGREED TO SHARE THE MONEY THUS; 1. 20% FOR THE ACCOUNT OWNER 2. 70% FOR US (THE OFFICIALS) 3. 10% TO BE USED IN SETTLING TAXATION AND ALL LOCAL AND FOREIGN EXPENSES. IT IS FROM THE 70% THAT WE WISH TO COMMENCE THE IMPORTATION BUSINESS.

PLEASE,NOTE THAT THIS TRANSACTION IS 100% SAFE AND WE HOPE TO COMMENCE THE TRANSFER LATEST SEVEN (7) BANKING DAYS FROM THE DATE OF THE RECEIPT OF THE FOLLOWING INFORMATIOM BY TEL/FAX; 234-1-7740449, YOUR COMPANY'S SIGNED, AND STAMPED LETTERHEAD PAPER THE ABOVE INFORMATION WILL ENABLE US WRITE LETTERS OF CLAIM AND JOB DESCRIPTION RESPECTIVELY. THIS WAY WE WILL USE YOUR COMPANY'S NAME TO APPLY FOR PAYMENT AND RE-AWARD THE CONTRACT IN YOUR COMPANY'S NAME.

WE ARE LOOKING FORWARD TO DOING THIS BUSINESS WITH YOU AND SOLICIT YOUR CONFIDENTIALITY IN THIS TRANSATION. PLEASE ACKNOWLEDGE THE RECEIPT OF THIS LETTER USING THE ABOVE TEL/FAX NUMBERS. I WILL SEND YOU DETAILED INFORMATION OF THIS PENDING PROJECT WHEN I HAVE HEARD FROM YOU.

YOURS FAITHFULLY,

DR CLEMENT OKON

NOTE; PLEASE QUOTE THIS REFERENCE NUMBER (VE/S/09/99) IN ALL YOUR RESPONSES.

 

[rivan]

Originally posted by: RESmonkey
The world should slowly move towards speaking a single universal language.

[/quote]

Start learning Mandarin.

 

[Nitemare]

that's not rude, just something that is lost in translation from Hindi to English. There are major cultural differences though, that's why everyone in retail hate having them as customers.

That and the ones that refuse to bathe and/or wear deoderant.

 

[andy04]

Originally posted by: rivan

Originally posted by: RESmonkey
The world should slowly move towards speaking a single universal language.

Start learning Mandarin.[/quote]

Martian !!! :beer:

 

[sygyzy]

Originally posted by: skyking

Originally posted by: TheVrolok
!rude

Originally posted by: skyking
Just another example of english being the language of international industry, and us native speakers expecting perfection.
I made an inquiry about a software product out of Germany. A doctor over there replied with:
"Thank you for your request. Joe Blow will contact you shortly to
discuss your demands."

I understood what he meant, but felt compelled to offer this:

"Hello Ralph,
I thought you could use a little clarification on english usage. This is meant to be friendly advice, nothing more.
When using 'demands' in a sentence like the one you made, it implies a confrontational or adversarial relationship, like a lawyer suing someone.
A better word in this case would be 'requirements'.
"Joe Blow will contact you shortly to discuss your requirements."

Thank you and I look forward to hearing from Joe.
sincerely,"

I think it's cool that you tried to lend a hand and help out - I just don't know if I could take this without at least getting some condescension from it.

He answered with a "thank you" but it could have been a spoken "fvck you" on his end:laugh:

The irony is you contacted a German software vendor about his product and he was kind enough to have learned your language for your convenience. You should have contacted him in German. Instead, you give him tips on how to speak Englihs.

 

[andy04]

Originally posted by: Nitemare
that's not rude, just something that is lost in translation from Hindi to English. There are major cultural differences though, that's why everyone in retail hate having them as customers.

That and the ones that refuse to bathe and/or wear deoderant.

Can we start a thread about how to get them to do that...

 

[Descartes]

Indian people are some of the most passive and kind people in the world, imo. It's safe to assume that if you're offended, you misunderstood what they were trying to say.

The converse is also true. They will often misunderstand what Americans mean to say, and will often be offended whether they show it or not.

 

[andy04]

Originally posted by: Descartes
Indian people are some of the most passive and kind people in the world, imo. It's safe to assume that if you're offended, you misunderstood what they were trying to say.

The converse is also true. They will often misunderstand what Americans mean to say, and will often be offended whether they show it or not.

Agreed, they will always say yes, regardless of if they understood you or not... or even if they can do it or not...

 

[Descartes]

Originally posted by: andy04
India is a country of cut throat compitition. Things like knowledge sharing and etiquettes at work place are taboos... they just cant help it... plus due to the recent inflow of US jobs they have become more arrogant. They think they are more intelligent them Americans and jobs are going there bzoc we are dumbasses... They dont realize that its coz they are cheap ass ppl... Just deal with it... its just the tip of the iceburgs. If the CEOs have their way we soon will be flooded with these...

Your generalizations are entirely incorrect.

 

[TehMac]

Originally posted by: RESmonkey
The world should slowly move towards speaking a single universal language.

ENGRISH TYME

Originally posted by: Descartes

Originally posted by: andy04
India is a country of cut throat compitition. Things like knowledge sharing and etiquettes at work place are taboos... they just cant help it... plus due to the recent inflow of US jobs they have become more arrogant. They think they are more intelligent them Americans and jobs are going there bzoc we are dumbasses... They dont realize that its coz they are cheap ass ppl... Just deal with it... its just the tip of the iceburgs. If the CEOs have their way we soon will be flooded with these...

Your generalizations are entirely incorrect.

Yeah I agree, that's retarded. :thumbsdown:

 

[Descartes]

Originally posted by: andy04

Originally posted by: Descartes
Indian people are some of the most passive and kind people in the world, imo. It's safe to assume that if you're offended, you misunderstood what they were trying to say.

The converse is also true. They will often misunderstand what Americans mean to say, and will often be offended whether they show it or not.

Agreed, they will always say yes, regardless of if they understood you or not... or even if they can do it or not...

I'm guessing you won't agree with me when you read my previous response to your post

But yes, a lot of times they will say yes regardless of whether they understand, but it's due largely to the desire to please. Guests, business or personal, are honored in a way that most Americans can't really relate. The level of accommodation they'll go to to make sure you're comfortable sometimes seems excessive, but it's part of the culture.

[edit]I should also point out that we (again, I'm assuming American here since I think that's the largest demographic on the forums) do the same, Mexicans do the same, etc. It's just human nature I think to nod in agreement when you're making the attempt to understand when in reality you don't.[/edit]

 

[thereds]

Originally posted by: andy04
India is a country of cut throat compitition. Things like knowledge sharing and etiquettes at work place are taboos... they just cant help it... plus due to the recent inflow of US jobs they have become more arrogant. They think they are more intelligent them Americans and jobs are going there bzoc we are dumbasses... They dont realize that its coz they are cheap ass ppl... Just deal with it... its just the tip of the iceburgs. If the CEOs have their way we soon will be flooded with these...

Nope, no dumbasses here.

 

[andy04]

Originally posted by: Descartes

Originally posted by: andy04

Originally posted by: Descartes
Indian people are some of the most passive and kind people in the world, imo. It's safe to assume that if you're offended, you misunderstood what they were trying to say.

The converse is also true. They will often misunderstand what Americans mean to say, and will often be offended whether they show it or not.

Agreed, they will always say yes, regardless of if they understood you or not... or even if they can do it or not...

I'm guessing you won't agree with me when you read my previous response to your post

But yes, a lot of times they will say yes regardless of whether they understand, but it's due largely to the desire to please. Guests, business or personal, are honored in a way that most Americans can't really relate. The level of accommodation they'll go to to make sure you're comfortable sometimes seems excessive, but it's part of the culture.

I dont want to be a snob... but it has nothing to do with culture... they are just insecure... they get a quick training in something and are sent to work as an expert... then they will work like theres no tomorrow to save their rear ends... this diminishes their self respect... they have created a "Blue Collar" job section in IT

 

[thereds]

Originally posted by: andy04

Originally posted by: Descartes

Originally posted by: andy04

Originally posted by: Descartes
Indian people are some of the most passive and kind people in the world, imo. It's safe to assume that if you're offended, you misunderstood what they were trying to say.

The converse is also true. They will often misunderstand what Americans mean to say, and will often be offended whether they show it or not.

Agreed, they will always say yes, regardless of if they understood you or not... or even if they can do it or not...

I'm guessing you won't agree with me when you read my previous response to your post

But yes, a lot of times they will say yes regardless of whether they understand, but it's due largely to the desire to please. Guests, business or personal, are honored in a way that most Americans can't really relate. The level of accommodation they'll go to to make sure you're comfortable sometimes seems excessive, but it's part of the culture.

I dont want to be a snob... but it has nothing to do with culture... they are just insecure... they get a quick training in something and are sent to work as an expert... then they will work like theres no tomorrow to save their rear ends... this diminishes their self respect... they have created a "Blue Collar" job section in IT

Some Indian steal your job, homie?

 

[meltdown75]

I agree, it is very rude to use Indians.

 

[andy04]

Originally posted by: meltdown75
I agree, it is very rude to use Indians.

???

 

[andy04]

Originally posted by: thereds

Originally posted by: andy04

Originally posted by: Descartes

Originally posted by: andy04

Originally posted by: Descartes
Indian people are some of the most passive and kind people in the world, imo. It's safe to assume that if you're offended, you misunderstood what they were trying to say.

The converse is also true. They will often misunderstand what Americans mean to say, and will often be offended whether they show it or not.

Agreed, they will always say yes, regardless of if they understood you or not... or even if they can do it or not...

I'm guessing you won't agree with me when you read my previous response to your post

But yes, a lot of times they will say yes regardless of whether they understand, but it's due largely to the desire to please. Guests, business or personal, are honored in a way that most Americans can't really relate. The level of accommodation they'll go to to make sure you're comfortable sometimes seems excessive, but it's part of the culture.

I dont want to be a snob... but it has nothing to do with culture... they are just insecure... they get a quick training in something and are sent to work as an expert... then they will work like theres no tomorrow to save their rear ends... this diminishes their self respect... they have created a "Blue Collar" job section in IT

Some Indian steal your job, homie?

Lets just say I had to reshape my career to keep myself safe...