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Indian royal family disinherits gay scion
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blackangst1
Lifer
um....right. Perversion would be nurture...and there is plenty of proof...here's just one:
Section 377 of the Indian Penal Code which criminalises 'carnal intercourse against the order of nature.' Since this is deliberately vague in the past it has been used against oral sex (heterosexual and homosexual), sodomy, bestiality, etc. The punishment ranges from ten years to lifelong imprisonment.
From Wiki
Learn to use Google. There is a ton of info to back this up.
I don't think so, that's actually where this whole thing started for me. I went to an engineering college that had a LOT of Indian students there (like, just off the boat, not Indian-Americans). And while they didn't seem dumb or anything, this idea that they are light-years ahead of us is not based on any reality I've observed. The ONLY reason India is becoming such a tech hotbed is that their wages are stupidly low. How many people think outsourcing would be happening if Indian programmers were paid the same as American programmers? Anyone?
I don't underestand how this makes them not be able to "compete." Compete in what? In progressiveness in regards to homosexuality? Economically? Most people seem to mean economically when they mention China/India. I don't really see how their social ills in regards to homosexuality is going to hold them back economically. Can you explain?
I guess I'm saying that I think economic success is very much tied to social freedom...I don't think it's a coincidence that the US is one of the more free countries in the world and also the leading economy. Just like I don't think it's chance that makes totally despotic countries like Iran and North Korea have terrible economies. Look at the difference between North and South Korea to see what I'm talking about. It's true, China and India do have quite powerful economies...but I wonder how long things will last for them. Their economic power is fairly new, and I think the situation in those countries will be fairly unstable until they bring the REST of their country forward a few years.
Economic power doesn't exist in a vacuum...
That's true, but there are already socially conservative countries who can compete such as Singapore, South Korea, Japan, etc. The US is conservative compared to several other countries in regards to homosexuals, but as you say, has the world's leading economy. If there was widespread restrictions to social freedom then perhaps you are right, but their social ills don't seem too different than ours.
I think that Europe will decline, and the leading economies will be the US and Asian economies in the future. I think that we have a lot going for us here in the US that will give us the edge.
Braznor
Diamond Member
Ha Ha Ha, so you think these sad people are the equivalent of the Royal family of Britian in India? i.e a constitutional head of state or perhaps even a province?
These people are nobody.
I never heard of them and I only know about them when I clicked on the link within this thread and I LIVED IN INDIA ALL MY LIFE :laugh:
These people starting a trend, my foot!!!!
From what I've seen here families and parents certianly place a much higher importance in education than white families whose kids are more prone to instead smoke pot, engage in premarital relations, and various other crap. I've heard that academic competition is much more strict there, and that they're 2-3 years ahead of US students in math. Eventually that ends up making a difference.
They aren't paid pennies. It's much less than US programmers would merit, but the $10-15k they make is a rich man's lifestyle there.
I assume you consider yourself smarter than the average person....how many people from your high school/college years dropped out?
Are you trying to say that one bigot quoting some other bigots isn't proof? Are you saying, in other words, that because a bunch of morons wrote a law that says 'against nature' it's proof they're not full of crap? Good news if true because we can write laws that say being gay is biological and gays can marry, no?
But I am sure we are wasting our time because, while "You can tell a Bigot, you can't tell him much.".
http://www.yawningbread.org/apdx_2002/imp-089.htm
FOR Singapore to thrive economically, it must accept immigrant talent, artists and homosexuals. At least, that is what a major new study of American cities suggests.
Richard Florida, a professor of regional development at Carnegie Mellon University, surveyed 49 urban centres with populations of at least one million, to try to discover the secrets of economic dynamism.
His findings, contained in a book published last month, point to the importance of what he calls the 'creative class'. He defines this class as that band of people whose job is to create new ideas, new technology and/or new creative content.
They include not just people in science and engineering but also architecture and design, education, arts, music and entertainment and other cultural producers. They see themselves as separate from two other classes - the working class and the service class.
Where the creative class goes, success follows. Their presence or absence can make or break a city, Prof Florida argues. Right now, they make up about 30 per cent of the American workforce.
.. snip ..
Prof Florida offers the theory that economically successful cities that can attract and retain the creative class are those that possess the three Ts - technology, talent and tolerance.
So how do homosexuals come into the equation? Gays are a proxy determinant of how tolerant and diverse a place is. 'To some extent, homosexuality represents the last frontier of diversity in our society, and thus a place that welcomes the gay community welcomes all kinds of people,' says Prof Florida. Cities that have gays and bohemians in abundance are more likely to have creative class workers, a deep high-tech industry and consequently, strong economic growth.
Florida tethers this argument to various statistical findings. He applies a 'Gay Index', constructed by a fellow Carnegie Mellon academic, to rank regions by their concentrations of gay people. He also devises a bohemian index, which measures the number of artists, musicians and the like. After crunching the numbers, he finds that there is a strong correlation between high concentrations of gays and bohemians on the one hand, and economic performance on the other.
The gay and bohemian indices are related to the depth of cities' high-technology industry, measured by the size of their software, electronics and engineering sectors.
Put simply, where there are gays, there are geeks and vice-versa.
Based on his studies, he concludes that San Francisco is the most creative city in the US, followed by Austin, Texas, and San Diego, California. San Francisco has the highest concentration of high-tech savvy people, high-tech industries, and a high degree of innovation, as measured by patents filed per capita. Long known as the gay capital of the US, it unsurprisingly scores high on the bohemian and gay indices.
Even when the extreme case of San Francisco is removed from the analysis, Florida still finds a high correlation between high numbers of gays and high number of high-tech industries.
He says that Austin as well as Dublin, Ireland, are two cities that 'get it' in their bid to draw the creative class. He contrasts them with his own hometown, Pittsburgh.
Pittsburgh, despite being a university town with high rankings on innovation and technology, is not successful at retaining talent. His diagnosis: Pittsburgh, an industrial town that has been an innovator in many fields, is a city trapped in the success of its past.
The problem is not about economics alone but a rigid culture and attitudes that drive away talented people. And as they leave, the impetus for change also goes with them.
.. snip ..
http://www.yawningbread.org/apdx_2002/imp-089.htm
RabidMongoose
Lifer
I don't think that the super nationalists are really doing anything to improve this condition as super nationalists do not naturally think anything is wrong. You're being very defensive in regards to the subject - and that is what I am speaking about.
RabidMongoose
Lifer
That still isn't an excuse. 'Waaah, it's in our culture to be barbaric ior disgusting n a certain aspect' is not an excuse for any reason for any group of people to use. What if Americans said that about everything?
What has happened is wrong. It's OK to admit it. It's not an indictment on everything related to this one country. The Indian super nationalists always seem to think that any comment on India is a slight against the people, country, and culture as a whole.
Anyways, are the gay laws actively enforced in India?
Singapore already thrives economically.
Also, Richard Florida's beliefs are disputed. There was just an article in Business Week from another professor disputing it (Florida just came out with another book I believe). The Myth Of Creativity. It's pretty interesting that you mention him since I was just reading about him less than a week ago!
Wikipedia:
I'm also wondering if in the article you posted, they included Silicon Valley with San Francisco there... the cultures are quite different.
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