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[Infohawk]

Originally posted by: CanOWorms

Originally posted by: Infohawk

Originally posted by: CanOWorms

anti-immigration

Huh? I'm not as crazy as immigration as some people are. But I'm not sure I'm anti-immigration. And that doesn't make me far-right.

Of course one factor doesn't make you far-right. It's a combination of many. Also, this is from my perspective. Perhaps a neo-Nazi would view you as far-left since you don't call for the extermination of other races.

against affirmative action

Hardly far-right, moron.

Of course not, but it's one of many factors that contributes to my belief that you're aligned with the far-right politically.

supports ethnic/etc. profiling

Not everything is black and white, lying numbnut. I am for it in certain situations.

So, you're for profiling. It's a far-right issue, doesn't necessarily make anyone far-right by itself, but combined with other factors...

against foreign students coming to the US for studies

Wrong, as usual.

You seem very against foreign students.

sees no problems with putting refugees (asylum seekers, NOT illegal immigrants) in concentration camps in the desert

This is a disgusting lie. You are truly a troll. I don't think anyone should be in concentration camps.

You sure seemed to be against me posting about it. Perhaps I'll mark this one off the list.

ees no problem with ethnicity-based citizenship requirements

So are you saying Japan is a far-right country?

I'm not sure, but that is a far-right policy and a dream of far-right parties.

Stop misrepresenting my views. The fact that you keep posting incorrect statements about my views in inappropriate threads is insulting.

Well, you only really disagreed with one of these statements and I truly believe that you were for it with your opposition against my posts in regards to it.

I noticed that you didn't comment on your statement regarding your support for white-only immigration. In my opinion, that's the most damning evidence of how you're politically aligned with the far-right.

There's still other evidence of how you're politically aligned with the far right. Playing down colonialism, for example.

You really are more of a European liberal. Don't take that as an insult.

You claim that there are multiple factors but you can't even really get one far-right belief for me down.

I am not against foreign students. I think it's great to have foreign exchanges. I just happen to think there is a little too much detriment to American students in certain fields. I also don't want to use US tax money to pay for it. After all, when Americans study abroad, the US pays for it.

And you consistently misunderstand or exagerrate my statements. I support Japan's right to have an ethnic policy. it's THEIR country. i didn't say I want the US to have that policy. So you can keep claiming a varietyof factors, but you don't even have ONE far-right view on me.

 

[CanOWorms]

Originally posted by: Infohawk

You claim that there are multiple factors but you can't even really get one far-right belief for me down.

I am not against foreign students. I think it's great to have foreign exchanges. I just happen to think there is a little too much detriment to American students in certain fields. I also don't want to use US tax money to pay for it. After all, when Americans study abroad, the US pays for it.

And you consistently misunderstand or exagerrate my statements. I support Japan's right to have an ethnic policy. it's THEIR country. i didn't say I want the US to have that policy. So you can keep claiming a varietyof factors, but you don't even have ONE far-right view on me.

I've provided numerous examples of how you're politically aligned with the far-right in respects to immigration and minorities. You even agreed to supporting some of those beliefs in your previous post.

Here's a post of yours:

Zebo, I'm not sure I see a white-only immigration policy as particularly barbarous. Racism is bad, but let's face it, race differences creates problems. I'm not saying it cannot be overcome, but if you want to live in a calm, united country, keeping things racial simple *could* help. Moreover, I'm not sure there is anything wrong about wanting a certain territory to be filled with people of a certain ethnicity. I am not Japanese, but I have no problem with Japan being home of the Japanese and not being able to become a citizen there. Now if they force their ethnicity on the world (like the Nazis did), then that's a problem for all of us. That being said, the fact that Australia, like the US, is an old colony that took land from indigeneous people, makes the white-only policy problematic.[/b]

You don't see a white-only immigration policy as wrong and you don't see ethnicity-based citizenship requirements as wrong. It doesn't matter whether you desire it for the US or not. You're aligned with the beliefs of the far-right -- you're more of a European liberal.

 

[Infohawk]

Originally posted by: CanOWorms
I've provided numerous examples of how you're politically aligned with the far-right in respects to immigration and minorities.

I have refuted every single one.

You don't see a white-only immigration policy as wrong and you don't see ethnicity-based citizenship requirements as wrong. It doesn't matter whether you desire it for the US or not. You're aligned with the beliefs of the far-right -- you're more of a European liberal.

Again you spin it to make it sound like I'm a white supremacist. I think countries should be able to decide who goes into their country and who can have citizenship. PERIOD. This is hardly far-right. I also don't think such policies are barbarous. Concentration camps and such are barbarous. Keeping people out of a country is not barbarous. Note I never said anything about asylum. I support it.

 

[athithi]

Originally posted by: 1EZduzit

Originally posted by: athithi

Originally posted by: Infohawk
I don't care if there's competition between doctors, but I'm sick of US tax dollars training foreigners.

Do you like the tax dollars that foreigners like me pay towards supporting bums on the street (and a war which I have nothing to do with)? Shut the gates on them damn foreigners because the year 2005 is the epitome of American civilization by which time all immigrants entitled to migrate to the U.S should have already done so, right? Oh wait, I forgot, you are probably 1 trillionth Native American so you are the true son of the soil :roll:

News flash. We're all paying for a war we have nothing to do with, welcome to the club.

One more thing while I'm at it. How in the hell do you think an alien is "entitled" to migrate to the US??????? If things aren't to your satisfaction here please feel free to go back to where you came from. I'm sure you are missed there.

Infohawk (and now, obviously you too) are implying that the only immigrants entitled to migrate have already done so and newer migrants are not welcome. I didn't get the memo, sorry. What was the last date of migration to the U.S once again, please? Who did you really think migrates to the U.S in the first place? American citizens?

I've been told enough number of times to "go back where I came from" by people like you and Infohawk (and some really conservative people too). It used to offend me once upon a time. But then I realized that I have met, perhaps, 1000s of American citizens, whites, blacks and of other ethnicities who have made me feel more welcome than I have felt even back home in India. Please don't take this the wrong way - but I think I am going to ignore your...err...request.

Truth be told, I feel sorry for people like you. People like me who made a conscious decision to come to this country know and experience the greatness of America in a manner you can never fathom. I would hate to be in your position - professing to love your motherland while hating what it stands for. Life in America must be so much harder for xenophobes like you.

CanOWorms, thanks for the explanation. I am able to see Infohawk's position better now. Ironically, it puts conservative ideology in much better light that I have ever seen it before simply because it is less paradoxical than Infohawk's brand of liberalism.

 

[Infohawk]

Originally posted by: athithi
Infohawk are implying that the only immigrants entitled to migrate have already done so and newer migrants are not welcome.

This is complete garbage. I don't believe that at all. You jump to conclusions based on limited information.

CanOWorms, thanks for the explanation. I am able to see Infohawk's position better now.

Infohawk doens't understand my position at all.

 

[RabidMongoose]

Originally posted by: Infohawk
After all, when Americans study abroad, the US pays for it.

How does the US pay for it?

Oh, so I guess foreigners get a double standards against them?

 

[RabidMongoose]

Originally posted by: CanOWorms

Originally posted by: Infohawk

You claim that there are multiple factors but you can't even really get one far-right belief for me down.

I am not against foreign students. I think it's great to have foreign exchanges. I just happen to think there is a little too much detriment to American students in certain fields. I also don't want to use US tax money to pay for it. After all, when Americans study abroad, the US pays for it.

And you consistently misunderstand or exagerrate my statements. I support Japan's right to have an ethnic policy. it's THEIR country. i didn't say I want the US to have that policy. So you can keep claiming a varietyof factors, but you don't even have ONE far-right view on me.

I've provided numerous examples of how you're politically aligned with the far-right in respects to immigration and minorities. You even agreed to supporting some of those beliefs in your previous post.

Here's a post of yours:

Zebo, I'm not sure I see a white-only immigration policy as particularly barbarous. Racism is bad, but let's face it, race differences creates problems. I'm not saying it cannot be overcome, but if you want to live in a calm, united country, keeping things racial simple *could* help. Moreover, I'm not sure there is anything wrong about wanting a certain territory to be filled with people of a certain ethnicity. I am not Japanese, but I have no problem with Japan being home of the Japanese and not being able to become a citizen there. Now if they force their ethnicity on the world (like the Nazis did), then that's a problem for all of us. That being said, the fact that Australia, like the US, is an old colony that took land from indigeneous people, makes the white-only policy problematic.[/b]

You don't see a white-only immigration policy as wrong and you don't see ethnicity-based citizenship requirements as wrong. It doesn't matter whether you desire it for the US or not. You're aligned with the beliefs of the far-right -- you're more of a European liberal.

How disgusting...

 

[RabidMongoose]

Originally posted by: athithi
I've been told enough number of times to "go back where I came from" by people like you and Infohawk (and some really conservative people too).

That's really sad to see. The reality is that you're probably much more valuable to the US than those morons that have said those things to you.

 

[CanOWorms]

Originally posted by: Infohawk

Originally posted by: CanOWorms
I've provided numerous examples of how you're politically aligned with the far-right in respects to immigration and minorities.

I have refuted every single one.

No you didn't. You agreed with some of them. Please reference the statements regarding affirmative action, profiling, don't disagree with white-only immigration, don't disagree with ethnicity-based citizenship requirements.

I wonder if you ever participated in my threads regarding Slovenia.

You don't see a white-only immigration policy as wrong and you don't see ethnicity-based citizenship requirements as wrong. It doesn't matter whether you desire it for the US or not. You're aligned with the beliefs of the far-right -- you're more of a European liberal.

Again you spin it to make it sound like I'm a white supremacist. I think countries should be able to decide who goes into their country and who can have citizenship. PERIOD. This is hardly far-right. I also don't think such policies are barbarous. Concentration camps and such are barbarous. Keeping people out of a country is not barbarous. Note I never said anything about asylum. I support it.

Sorry, but I'm not trying to portray you as a white supremacist.

You support only allowing immigration of certain races and support only allowing certain ethnicities to become citizens. Those are clearly far-right issues.

You should note that by calling you far-right, I'm referencing only your political beliefs in regards to immigration and minorities. This is why I say you're more of a European liberal.