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India owns US in air combat exercises (Cope India)

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Originally posted by: RaynorWolfcastle
No need to get your panties in a twist, US planes don't need to dogfight. They just fire off a couple of missles from over the horizon and that takes care of the problem. US planes aren't designed to be excellent dogfighters anyway.
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its not a competetion....its a joint venture between india and US to better each other's pilots in skills they lack. last i checked, India and US were on the same side
 
India owns US in air combat exercises
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If the results of the training weren't released, how exactly does one conclude the USAF was owned? All you are going on is the general saying the event was a wakeup call.

It's not surprising that fighters designed and built in the 70s didn't do that great against newer fighters. I would have liked to have seen what would have happened if F-16Cs or F-18s were used instead of the aging F-15. Better yet, the Raptor is being rolled out soon. I wonder how many pilots will be willing to test their mettle against one of those?

The US air force would still smack up the Indian one, much in the same way that the US infantry would smack up the Canadian army, even though Canadians have better snipers
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Bad analogy and just wrong - especially seeing as how American snipers are currenly the best (the team from Alaska won, the Canucks came in 2nd) - at least amoung the NATO countries. Canadian snipers have great equipment, and great training, no argument there, but the US forces have the lion's share of combat experience, and their equipment is getting better now that attention has been drawn to it.
 
Originally posted by: maziwanka
yea i thought this was a repost from 20 billion years ago, but i could be wrong?
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Frozen caveman was found today sitting at a PC.....experts believe that
he lived approx 20 billion years ago and died while waiting for the
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Originally posted by: kage69
India owns US in air combat exercises
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If the results of the training weren't released, how exactly does one conclude the USAF was owned? All you are going on is the general saying the event was a wakeup call.

It's not surprising that fighters designed and built in the 70s didn't do that great against newer fighters. I would have liked to have seen what would have happened if F-16Cs or F-18s were used instead of the aging F-15. Better yet, the Raptor is being rolled out soon. I wonder how many pilots will be willing to test their mettle against one of those?

The US air force would still smack up the Indian one, much in the same way that the US infantry would smack up the Canadian army, even though Canadians have better snipers
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Bad analogy and just wrong - especially seeing as how American snipers are currenly the best (the team from Alaska won, the Canucks came in 2nd) - at least amoung the NATO countries. Canadian snipers have great equipment, and great training, no argument there, but the US forces have the lion's share of combat experience, and their equipment is getting better now that attention has been drawn to it.
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SU-30 > all
 
Originally posted by: Fenixgoon
just another thing... when an AIM52 phoenix missile can track a target from 90 miles, is dogfitghting really necessary with that kind of equipment?
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Two things, Rules of Engagment usually require visual IDing the aircraft and the Phoenix was designed to go against slow bombers like the Tu-95 because it can't turn very quickly.
 
This exact topic is very old and has been discussed multiple times in last year on this forum...it is a complete non-issue.
 
Originally posted by: Shockwave
Originally posted by: Triumph
We've always known that the Soviet fighters were better in many respects than ours. But the difference is that they're not developing them anymore!
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Yep. Soviets made damned good fighters.
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Made???

SU-37/47 Known by both i guess

more Su-47 tech demo

Production SU-37

And yea, the Mig-29, SU-27 are prolly both superior dogfighters, in the hands of a trained pilot..


Another note, dogfighting useless? Remember Vietnam?..😉

And another note, i'm far from up on radar technologies, but if you have a jet that can hug the ground, getting mixed in the with ground clutter, or is stealthly enought, 64 AIM52 phoenix missiles won't save your hide.
 
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