Dont' feel so bad, its not that bad because a very large number of the people that come here, already have solid educations, from excellent schools in India (IIT is hard to get into than Harvard or MIT). The Indian government has subsidized their education, then they come here and work. IF they go back, they go back with the knowledge that they gained working in this country.
Not to say that there are not a lot of foreign students from countries like India, but there are also a lot of people who come here degreed, on the H1B work visas, as in the first scenario.
I agree with you though, they do pick up the tools of the trade (if not the college degree), and i agree with you completely that it is stupid to send them back.
The way i look at it, 20-50 years from now, the makeup of this country will be very different if things continue to go the way they are going. What do you think will happen when smart immigrants continue to go, and we get uneducated, unskilled labor class immigrants who will constitute majority areas. I live in Texas, we are expected to have more Hispanics in 20 years than any other ethnic group. I have nothing against Hispanics per se, but I do have something against the kind of people coming, I don't want uneducated unskilled people.
So while we are regressing, countries such as China, India, Korea are progressing. So in 20-50 years, they will be enjoying further economic booms, while we may be 'treated' to more gang violence, drugs, prostitution, racketeering and poverty. If we are already, today, worried about where my generation (20s) is going to get social security from, WTF are we going to do when our population increases dramatically, and that too by a population that doesn't pay their fare share?
I may move out of the U.S. if it gets that bad in 20 years. I wonder if our government will refund me for all the years my wages were withheld. I"m not gonna lie, taxes (for those paying them) is a MAJOR b*tch.
Originally posted by: LegendKiller
Our immegration policy is amusing. We allow porous southern boarders to staff our lowest paying jobs and allow terrorists a way in.
However, when it comes to the best and brightest in the world, we allow them to come to this country, get a benefit from it's superior education, then yank their visas if somebody doesn't hire them within the allotted time. Instead of encouraging them to stay and making them citizens, which would improve our knowledge base and further our goals as a country, we kick them out. Especially after 9/11.
I have several indian coworkers and they are pretty smart people. Most cannot become citizens, despite having engineering and business or finance masters from US schools and actually wanting to stay here the rest of their lives.
They will eventually go back to India, where US jobs will follow them.
Who is the ultimate loser? We keep them here and get all sorts of jobs from them (housing, services, further generations of educated Americans) or we kick them out, and lose all sorts of jobs.
Stupid...so damn stupid.