Incredibly Slow Boot Up Time on Win 10 After System Upgrade!!!

[ithehappy]

Hello guys, I am facing a very weird issue!

I just updated my system today, following are the items which were upgraded, 6700k, Z170 Pro, 16 GB RAM, a new Noctua cooler and a new cabinet Corsair 500R. The hard drives, WD 1 TB Black, and a very old Seagate were kept from old system, along with the PSU TX650 and GTX970.

Now on the older system it would take a maximum of 15-20 seconds to login to Windows completely (inside actual Windows after entering pass I mean), but now with this new rig its taking at least 4 times longer, more than a minute to login to Windows, and even after logging in its taking another good 30 odd seconds to stabilise and update everything, only after that I can click on stuffs (My Computer, Chrome whatever) and it would open, which was not the case with the older system either, even there just after logging in it would start working almost instantly! Now I have not played any games or anything to test out overall system performance but this issue alone is utterly annoying for me, especially when I was very much used with 30-second like boot up time.

Could someone shed some light one this please? I have not changed any settings in BIOS (but I did change the EZ Setting Tuning mode to Asus Optimal, from Normal, which is more performance oriented, but it didn't change anything at all!), and also I am attaching the screenshots from the Driver CD page, which ones I have installed and which I have not. Kindly take a look and tell me guys what could possibly be wrong.

Thanks in advance.

BIOS Settings (You will notice that the RAMs are in A2 and B2 slow rather than A1 and B1, I changed them after noticing very little gap in between the cooler and one RAM module, that can't cause this issue can it?)

And the screenshots from Driver CD:

 

[VirtualLarry]

No SSD? Old HDDs? That's why. One of your HDDs may be failing, or it's just usual HDD boot-time slowness.

 

[ithehappy]

Mate that's the exact same hard drives which I've used in the old system! I don't suppose they have started to fail right after entering my new system. Also the OS is on the WD Black drive, which I don't think by any means a slow drive!

 

[VirtualLarry]

I should also note that the first few boots / hours of operation on a fresh Win10 install will be slow, due to all the background activity. Leave the computer running for 24hrs, and see if the issue doesn't get better.

Though, I can't recommend an SSD enough. Even a "mighty" WD Black desktop HDD is "slow" compared to even a budget modern SSD.

 

[ithehappy]

Okay thanks. Don't know what you mean by "fresh Win 10 install" though. I didn't install my OS freshly.

 

[Elixer]

Mate that's the exact same hard drives which I've used in the old system! I don't suppose they have started to fail right after entering my new system. Also the OS is on the WD Black drive, which I don't think by any means a slow drive!

What OS you using exactly, and what did you use before?
It sounds like you just plugged everything into the new motherboard, without reinstalling the OS?
If it wasn't the same mobo as before (or same chipset), then windows will basically slow to a crawl trying to load different drivers, and it gets to be a mess. This is why you should clean install the OS when you make major upgrades like you did.

Quite frankly, yes, the WD Black is slow compared to pretty much any SSD out there, which I am surprised you upgraded everything else except the storage device? Should have spent another $80 or so and get a SSD to install the OS on, then keep the black for games or whatever else, and I would be highly suspect of the seagate is still in good condition after all these years, check what crystaldiskinfo (portable version, free) tells you about your HDs.

 

[ithehappy]

Lol yes of course that's what I did. Didn't think I need to install Windows 10 freshly after upgrading system. I've never done that before anyway, worked fine with all OS, XP, Seven and all, but I guess that's some Win 10 exclusive feature, LOL.

Will reinstall OS and see, thanks.

 

[mpo]

Lol yes of course that's what I did. Didn't think I need to install Windows 10 freshly after upgrading system. I've never done that before anyway, worked fine with all OS, XP, Seven and all, but I guess that's some Win 10 exclusive feature, LOL.

Will reinstall OS and see, thanks.

You would run into the same issues with XP and 7. You probably wouldn't notice the difference between a 30 and a 40 second boot.

Now with SSDs you can have 10 to 15 second boots on even relatively low-powered systems. Now 30 second boots can seem like an eternity.

I also prefer to replace one component at a time. It's easier to trouble-shoot when you reduce the number of variables. It can save a bigger headache down the road.

 

[ithehappy]

Guys I'm stuck at this error. I realise that this is due to different BIOS settings but I don't know how to change anything, I mean where to change the BIOS settings to legacy only mode! Any help?

Sent from my SM-N910G

 

[VirtualLarry]

You may need to use Diskpart to 'clean' the disk. That WILL ERASE IT.

Or, disable UEFI booting in your BIOS. It appears that your existing disk is MBR, and you booted your install media with UEFI.

 

[ithehappy]

Okay, thanks, yeah, I figured it later, disabled UEFI and all is good. Now setting up Windows 10. I'll come back tomorrow with an update.

Thanks for the help.

 

[Puffnstuff]

A UEFI installation of windows if the fastest possible configuration that you can have on a modern system.

 

[ithehappy]

Great news guys. The freshly installed OS is performing just like before, fast boot time and all that. Now I just need to know two more things, first, I bought 3000 MHz RAM modules, and this board can't have any more than 2133 MHz without OCing, so I am selecting the XMP profile to have the RAMs run at 3000 MHz but this message is confusing, should I click on No here, or Yes? I just want the RAMs to be OCed, nothing else, so should I choose No?

 

[VirtualLarry]

"All Core Enhancement" / "Multi-Core Enhancement", is a form of auto-overclocking that is often enabled by modern motherboards when enabling XMP support. It changes the Turbo feature of the processor, and re-programs it, so that the highest turbo bin is achievable with all cores operating. It will generate more heat that way, and draw more power, but of course, it should also be faster.

 

[ithehappy]

"All Core Enhancement" / "Multi-Core Enhancement", is a form of auto-overclocking that is often enabled by modern motherboards when enabling XMP support. It changes the Turbo feature of the processor, and re-programs it, so that the highest turbo bin is achievable with all cores operating. It will generate more heat that way, and draw more power, but of course, it should also be faster.

Thanks, understood. So what if I click on No?

 

[nerp]

Without an SSD, you are hobbling your system like you can't even understand. Imagine getting a Porsche 911 Turbo and disconnecting all but 2 of the 6 cylinders. Then imagine taking the turbo and packing it with insulation so the tube is the diamater of a straw. That is what running a HD is like compared to an SSD. All your new hardware is basically standing around tapping its foot waiting for your slow hard drives to catch up. Get an SSD now.

Reinstall windows in UEFI mode, not legacy. That's another big problem right there.

Do those things and your system will run so much better.

 

[ithehappy]

Thanks. I'm not even sure what all these are UEFI, Legacy and all that! But is it right that to be able to install Windows in UEFI mode, my hard drive needs to be formatted in GPT mode? Instead of MBR? If so then kindly tell me how to format the drive in GPT mode, I'm sure an app is needed, so which one?

 

[JackMDS]

https://www.partitionwizard.com/free-partition-manager.html

It have a capacity to convert MBR to GPT

 

[nerp]

Thanks. I'm not even sure what all these are UEFI, Legacy and all that! But is it right that to be able to install Windows in UEFI mode, my hard drive needs to be formatted in GPT mode? Instead of MBR? If so then kindly tell me how to format the drive in GPT mode, I'm sure an app is needed, so which one?

I recommend backing up all your data, boot the windows 10 installation and simply delete all the partitions away so the drive is totally unformatted. Then just create new partitions. If it's a system drive, just highlight the unformatted, unpartitioned drive, and click next when the install process wants to know which drive to use. If your BIOS is in UEFI mode, you really don't have to worry about anything when you're starting fresh.

 

[Braxos]

Remove all other hdd from the system prior new installation of windows. Google how to download Windows 10 choose the Microsoft site and dl the usb/DVD creation tool. Pick a usb, Rest will do the software and explain everything.
Boot to bios and choose
UEFI (NAME OF) USB
to boot from.
When it starts up and you can see the only ssd/hdd you have left connected. Pick every partition and delete it, on the ssd/hdd then create a partition confirm the next box after that it will create 3 small partition and the rest of the ssd/hdd space, pick that and choose next.
End of story.

 

[ithehappy]

Yeah thanks, did it yesterday. Basically I had to format the drive in GPT mode, as it was in MBR, UEFI wasn't able to flash Windows on it. Also I will be getting an SSD (again), and use it. But the only reason I was waiting because I thought the price of 1 TBs will come down next year or something, but just gonna get a 512 GB now.