incredible or evo?

[gsaldivar]

even without 4G is still the killer phone to get. 4G is just icing on the cake.

Right.

But I don't much like the idea of committing to two years of 4G surcharges if I only get a taste of icing every now and then. The rest of the time... it's just plain old 3G cake.

 

[zerocool84]

Right.

But I don't much like the idea of committing to two years of 4G surcharges if I only get a taste of icing every now and then. The rest of the time... it's just plain old 3G cake.

4G surcharges??? There's nothing confirmed that 4G is going to cost extra yet just tons and tons of speculation.

 

[CTrain]

Right.

But I don't much like the idea of committing to two years of 4G surcharges if I only get a taste of icing every now and then. The rest of the time... it's just plain old 3G cake.

Who said you are getting 4g surcharges ??
You're jumping to conclusion.
Wait for the official annoucement.

 

[gsaldivar]

Sprint already has different pricing for "unlimited" data speeds, its called Vision (1xRTT) and Power Vision (EVDO). It's going to be the same thing they are doing with their existing customers today - if you want an advanced device, then you will need a "compatible" plan to go with it. You won't be able to upgrade to the EVO on any of the previous plans that are out there, nor will you be able to sign a cheaper plan with an older device and "upgrade" to the EVO at the same rates. Whether or not the charge is broken out into a line item isn't really the issue. Trust me, you'll be paying extra for it.

 

[tonie]

Sprint already has different pricing for "unlimited" data speeds, its called Vision (1xRTT) and Power Vision (EVDO). It's going to be the same thing they are doing with their existing customers today - if you want an advanced device, then you will need a "compatible" plan to go with it. You won't be able to upgrade to the EVO on any of the previous plans that are out there, nor will you be able to sign a cheaper plan with an older device and "upgrade" to the EVO at the same rates. Whether or not the charge is broken out into a line item isn't really the issue. Trust me, you'll be paying extra for it.

Where did you get this from?

 

[zerocool84]

Sprint already has different pricing for "unlimited" data speeds, its called Vision (1xRTT) and Power Vision (EVDO). It's going to be the same thing they are doing with their existing customers today - if you want an advanced device, then you will need a "compatible" plan to go with it. You won't be able to upgrade to the EVO on any of the previous plans that are out there, nor will you be able to sign a cheaper plan with an older device and "upgrade" to the EVO at the same rates. Whether or not the charge is broken out into a line item isn't really the issue. Trust me, you'll be paying extra for it.

???

All Sprint has is Everything Data plans, Everything Messaging plans, and Talk. Where are you getting this stuff from?

 

[gsaldivar]

All Sprint has is Everything Data plans, Everything Messaging plans, and Talk. Where are you getting this stuff from?

Long personal experience with Sprint.

 

[AstroManLuca]

Long personal experience with Sprint.

When was the last time you read up on their plans? None of their current plans make any distinction between 2G and 3G data. Maybe grandfathered plans.

 

[jaydee]

How on earth could they charge extra on a plan for the EVO because it has 4G... considering that most of the US has no access to 4G? If you live outside of a 4G area, you're going to have to pay more?

This just doesn't make sense, I don't see this happening.

 

[zerocool84]

How on earth could they charge extra on a plan for the EVO because it has 4G... considering that most of the US has no access to 4G? If you live outside of a 4G area, you're going to have to pay more?

This just doesn't make sense, I don't see this happening.

lol well it did

 

[Naeeldar]

I challenge your assessment that VZWs network is better. They seem to be very on par with each other, in fact I have a trucker friend who gets Sprint service out in the boonies long outside of VZW coverage. (His company uses VZW and he has a Sprint phone that he tethers to get WoW and has had to use his personal cell on more than one occasion to call home base.

I'd seriously consider the EVO if I lived in an area with 4g coverage if not there is no point. <B>Also Sprint has a rough track record when it comes to billing or customer support.</B>

I'll say this Sprint has improved dramatically in this area over the last 1.5-2 years. It's surprising because 6 months before that time frame it would take hours to get through to a customer service rep.

That said I can't justify VZ's cost for the same coverage Sprint has in the Philadelphia area. Plus 4g is here.

 

[blackangst1]

Sprint already has different pricing for "unlimited" data speeds, its called Vision (1xRTT) and Power Vision (EVDO). It's going to be the same thing they are doing with their existing customers today - if you want an advanced device, then you will need a "compatible" plan to go with it. You won't be able to upgrade to the EVO on any of the previous plans that are out there, nor will you be able to sign a cheaper plan with an older device and "upgrade" to the EVO at the same rates. Whether or not the charge is broken out into a line item isn't really the issue. Trust me, you'll be paying extra for it.

What the hell? I understand youre a long time Sprint customer, but come on. Vision vs Power Vision doesnt exist anymore. Its simplified in the everything plans.

And it does appear, if youve been reading the other thread, there WILL be a $10 surcharge for data (4G) whether you are in a 4G data area or not.

BUT!

Its not rolled out yet, so that may change. Even with the $10 charge, its cheaper than Verizon for the (not so) Incredible. I'll copy from another thread about this. IMHO, EVO over the Incredible is a no brainer.

3.7 inch Amoled vs 4.3 LCD. There are advantages and disadvantages to amoled, but for sunlight viewing the lcd wins. And of course the bigger screen.

740MB ROM vs 1GB. No brainer.

8GB internal memory vs 0. Incredible wins this, but with SD cards, is it really a big deal?

Single 8MP camera vs 8MP AND 1.3 front facing. No brainer.

Video recording resolution: 800x480 vs 1280x720 (true high def). No brainer.

TV out: microUSB vs HDMI. No brainer.

Battery: 1300mAh vs 1500mAh. No brainer.

EVO *is* a bit bigger though.

Pricing? Sprint, even with the add ons and no discounts given, is still cheaper.

Bottom line? Incredible is, well, not so incredible anymore. I mean, its a nice phone, but....

 

[gsaldivar]

No brainer... No brainer... No brainer... No brainer... Incredible is, well, not so incredible anymore.

Who is saying that EVO isn't a better phone than the Incredible?

It's pretty obvious that you're sold on Sprint. But if you pause to catch your breath for a moment, you might realize that not everyone is buying based on specs here.

If you live and work in a 4G area, $240 extra for 4G might not be a bad deal. But many of us don't. I don't know about everyone else, but I much like the idea of paying for something I don't - or can't use.

 

[foghorn67]

Who is saying that EVO isn't a better phone than the Incredible?

It's pretty obvious that you're sold on Sprint. But if you pause to catch your breath for a moment, you might realize that not everyone is buying based on specs here.

If you live and work in a 4G area, $240 extra for 4G might not be a bad deal. But many of us don't. I don't know about everyone else, but I much like the idea of paying for something I don't - or can't use.

Honestly, where are you getting your prices? Are you making stuff up as you go along?
http://www.androidcentral.com/how-do-you-feel-about-evo-4g-pricing

 

[zerocool84]

Honestly, where are you getting your prices? Are you making stuff up as you go along?
http://www.androidcentral.com/how-do-you-feel-about-evo-4g-pricing

Yes you are paying $240 extra for it over the course of 2 years which is what he means. Still cheaper than pretty much every other carrier.

 

[gsaldivar]

Honestly, where are you getting your prices? Are you making stuff up as you go along?
http://www.androidcentral.com/how-do-you-feel-about-evo-4g-pricing

It's called math:

$10 surcharge x 24-month contract = $240.00

 

[randomlinh]

How on earth could they charge extra on a plan for the EVO because it has 4G... considering that most of the US has no access to 4G? If you live outside of a 4G area, you're going to have to pay more?

This just doesn't make sense, I don't see this happening.

lol well it did

Technically, Sprint is charging more because it's an advanced phone that will invoke people to use much more data than any other smartphone....... ... .. .

But yes, they've gotta subsidize their 4G rollout somehow, heh. It has me hesitant on getting the phone because 4G hasn't hit DC yet (and even still, I live just outside of DC, seems like it will be "core" DC that gets it).

 

[foghorn67]

It's called math:

$10 surcharge x 24-month contract = $240.00

Whoops. I thought you were inferring that was annual charge of $240. Not sure how I reached that conclusion.
Weird.

 

[Naeeldar]

Technically, Sprint is charging more because it's an advanced phone that will invoke people to use much more data than any other smartphone....... ... .. .

But yes, they've gotta subsidize their 4G rollout somehow, heh. It has me hesitant on getting the phone because 4G hasn't hit DC yet (and even still, I live just outside of DC, seems like it will be "core" DC that gets it).

I live outside of Philadelphia (about 30 minutes) and we get 4g out here. I think you'll be pleased with the results once they put it in DC.

As to the surcharge of 10 a month. This is basically going to be the way to bump up data plan costs to cover high usage users without making it obvious. Simple marketing technique.

 

[randomlinh]

I live outside of Philadelphia (about 30 minutes) and we get 4g out here. I think you'll be pleased with the results once they put it in DC.

As to the surcharge of 10 a month. This is basically going to be the way to bump up data plan costs to cover high usage users without making it obvious. Simple marketing technique.

I have no doubt 4G will be awesome. but every other city had be listed normally, while DC got the tag of "core" or whatever, it wasn't very reassuring.

As for the surcharge, if they want to play that game, they shouldn't force everyone to pay if they won't use it. I have sprint's 3G now. I know what I do, and I use about 1GB-1.5GB/mo. it ain't going to change if I get an EVO. Signal is still not good enough for streaming when I need it, like on the Metro. Not to mention video/audio I'd load myself or stream over wifi at home.

But as it's been said, sprint can sorta get away with it because overall, still cheaper than verizon or att, for most ppl.

 

[jaydee]

lol well it did

son of a gun... not cool.

 

[Naeeldar]

I have no doubt 4G will be awesome. but every other city had be listed normally, while DC got the tag of "core" or whatever, it wasn't very reassuring.

As for the surcharge, if they want to play that game, they shouldn't force everyone to pay if they won't use it. I have sprint's 3G now. I know what I do, and I use about 1GB-1.5GB/mo. it ain't going to change if I get an EVO. Signal is still not good enough for streaming when I need it, like on the Metro. Not to mention video/audio I'd load myself or stream over wifi at home.

But as it's been said, sprint can sorta get away with it because overall, still cheaper than verizon or att, for most ppl.

I think you'll find Verizon/ATT will introduce similiar charges over the next year or so. None of the networks really were prepared for the data usage we see.

 

[Phobic9]

I like my Incredible but I'm thinking about sending it back and using my Droid until I check out this EVO deal. I'm really curious about their 3G speeds/coverage since I use Google Nav as my primary GPS now.

Does Sprint finally allow non-contract accounts? I'd much prefer to go month-to-month instead of being locked in for 2 years given my cellphone purchasing habits.