Incorrect phrases you often hear

[kalrith]

"Fustratred" and "flustrated" really irk me.

Edit: "Can't hardly" is another one.

 

[seemingly random]

This is more of localized idiom but in the south, people say:

• hose pipe

instead of

• garden hose

 

[seemingly random]

jesus fucking christ!

What does the above mean? I say it as an extreme exclamatory. I've heard religious folks say it also - seems like it would be derogatory somehow.

 

[mrSHEiK124]

Originally posted by: DisgruntledVirus

Originally posted by: Chaotic42

Eh, it wasn't totally destroyed. All but destroyed implies that there is a little left. Partially destroyed would be a better term for New Orleans. Waveland, Mississippi were all but destroyed.

<---Katrina "Ground Zero" resident

Fixed.

Waveland, Mississippi refers to the CITY of Waveland in the STATE of Mississippi, thus it's still singular! For all intensive purposes, it should be written WAS all but destroyed, just like the OP. God, you really could care less about your grammar!

Originally posted by: Scarpozzi
"It's a mute point." - I heard my supervisor say this in about 5 meetings....I realized it would never end, so I pulled him aside and schooled him. "MOOT"

I'm very guilty of just yelling "MOOT" at friends of mine when they say mute point. People don't fucking realize that when you try and use new words the wrong way, you sound stupid!

Originally posted by: seemingly random
jesus fucking christ!

What does the above mean? I say it as an extreme exclamatory. I've heard religious folks say it also - seems like it would be derogatory somehow.

Holy fucking shit. Oh my fucking god. Fuck is a very versatile word; I saw something online that was either a flash ani or a mass e-mail that listed about 20 different ways to use it. It was lolz.

 

[91TTZ]

Originally posted by: Turin39789

grammar is malleable and defined by common usage.

But that's a really slippery argument. Someone can talk like Pootie Tang and claim that they don't have incorrect grammar, they're just being progressive.

 

[hanoverphist]

Originally posted by: Chiropteran

Originally posted by: Excelsior
Absolutely. To break it down for those who disagree:

We say "this week" and "next week". Everyone agrees on what these mean.

The end of this week = this weekend.

The end of next week = next weekend.

How anyone can argue with that is madness.

I understand what people mean when they say that, but it still doesn't make any sense.

"This weekend" is inappropriate and makes no logical sense unless it is said during the actual weekend.

I mean, what if I was eating lunch at Chipotle talking to a friend and I said "This computer is the one I'm going to rebuild.", or, "This TV is the one I'm going to buy.", while we are eating lunch, he would think I was out of my mind. "This week's end" would make logical sense and everyone would still understand what you are saying, unfortunately it's not spoken that way.

"This weekend" is the only example I can think of where you refer to something that isn't here without defining it as "this".

"Next weekend" means the *next* weekend. For example, if I was talking to a friend and daid I would buy him lunch "next lunch" it would be normal for him to assume I meant the next time we had lunch, the next day. But when people say "next weekend" they don't mean the next weekend, they mean the weekend AFTER the next weekend.


So. I fully understand how the terms are used commonly, however it doesn't change the fact that they are completely illogical and they do not follow common sense or normal grammar rules. I will never use either term myself.


Actually, even saying "this week's end" doesn't make much sense. What we call a weekend is actually half of the end of two different weeks. It is half of the last end of this week (Saturday), plus half of the beginning end of next week (Sunday). So "this week's end" or "next week's end" wouldn't make sense either, because what is commonly considered the weekend is really the ends of two different weeks.

unless you think of it as "the next weekend", which would make it the closest weekend to right now (or "this weekend", like i would say). my ex wife and i argued about that a lot at first. she meant this weekend when she said next weekend, but she was thinking in terms of the next weekend to arrive.


im just sayin.

 

[hanoverphist]

Originally posted by: Aikouka

Originally posted by: Chiropteran
that is how all new words are added. it is a real word.

Still doesn't mean that irregardless is a worthwhile word as it literally means the same as regardless. In this day where people are lazy enough to shorten "you" to 'u', I'm amazed that they'd want to type two more characters.

regardless is regard and less. irregardless is ir, regard and less. ir is like saying not, less is like saying without. does it make it mean not without regard? id say they truly dont mean the same, even if enough idiots got it added to the dictionary.

 

[JujuFish]

Originally posted by: Chiropteran

Originally posted by: JujuFish
You compare apples to oranges to somehow support your nonsensical argument and then praise yourself for your non sequitur conclusion and supposed elitism. Congratulations on sounding like a douche.

Wake up on the wrong side of bed this morning? I don't see how it is apples to oranges.

Saying "this weekend" when it's not the weekend is the exact same as saying "this [anything]" when the anything isn't here and obvious. The only difference is that saying "this weekend" is in common usage so people know what you are talking about, even though it's completely illogical.

You don't see how it's apples to oranges because you're trying to force your illogical argument to make sense. Your examples of "this [anything]" because you wouldn't say "next [anything] in its place. That makes it an apples to oranges comparison.


Do you even know the definition of "this"? Here, let me show you:

2: being the nearer at hand or more immediately under observation or discussion

So, you see, it is both idiomatically and grammatically correct to say "this weekend" when referring to the upcoming weekend. Now, let's look at the definition for next:

1 : in the time, place, or order nearest or immediately succeeding <next we drove home> <the next closest school>

As you can see here, it's again correct to use "next" when referring to the weekend after the upcoming weekend. You wouldn't say "next closest school" when referring to the closest one, now would you?

Get off your imaginary high horse.

 

[ConstipatedVigilante]

Sneak peak has always annoyed the fuck out of me. I really could care less.

 

[KnickNut3]

Not sure if they've been mentioned, but:

1) When people use "whom" to try to sound smart when it's not an object (although whom is the formal version of the word)

2) When people use "myself" in a non-reflexive context "you can hand the paper in to Joe or myself." UGH!

 

[Chiropteran]

Originally posted by: JujuFish

Originally posted by: Chiropteran

Originally posted by: JujuFish
You compare apples to oranges to somehow support your nonsensical argument and then praise yourself for your non sequitur conclusion and supposed elitism. Congratulations on sounding like a douche.

Wake up on the wrong side of bed this morning? I don't see how it is apples to oranges.

Saying "this weekend" when it's not the weekend is the exact same as saying "this [anything]" when the anything isn't here and obvious. The only difference is that saying "this weekend" is in common usage so people know what you are talking about, even though it's completely illogical.

You don't see how it's apples to oranges because you're trying to force your illogical argument to make sense. Your examples of "this [anything]" because you wouldn't say "next [anything] in its place. That makes it an apples to oranges comparison.

reposting because you obviously didn't read it:

"Next rebuild I'm going to give Vista a try."

Am I talking about the next time I rebuild my computer, or am I talking about the time *after* the next time I rebuild my computer?

So why does "next weekend" follow different rules?


----


"This rebuild I'm going to give Vista a try."

"Oh, so you are rebuilding your PC now?"

"No, I mean this coming rebuild... uh when I decide to rebuild my computer next time.."

"So you mean your next rebuild"

"Yes"

Originally posted by: JujuFish
Do you even know the definition of "this"? Here, let me show you:

2: being the nearer at hand or more immediately under observation or discussion

So, you see, it is both idiomatically and grammatically correct to say "this weekend" when referring to the upcoming weekend. Now, let's look at the definition for next:

1 : in the time, place, or order nearest or immediately succeeding <next we drove home> <the next closest school>

As you can see here, it's again correct to use "next" when referring to the weekend after the upcoming weekend. You wouldn't say "next closest school" when referring to the closest one, now would you?

You are adding words to make your case, that is called a straw-man argument.

Of course I wouldn't say "next closest school" when referring to the closest one, I would say the "next school". Just like you don't say "next closest weekend", you say "next weekend". Except that common usage dictates that "next weekend" means the weekend after the next weekend.

 

[seemingly random]

Originally posted by: ConstipatedVigilante
Sneak peak has always annoyed the fuck out of me. I really could care less.

"sneak peek" was created by marketing people to generate excitement about an upcoming event. Between gov't and marketing mangling, it's surprising there is any standard at all.

 

[Chiropteran]

Would you like any condom mints on your hotdog?

 

[chuckywang]

worldwind instead of whirlwind

per say instead of per se

 

[JujuFish]

Originally posted by: Chiropteran

Originally posted by: JujuFish

Originally posted by: Chiropteran

Originally posted by: JujuFish
You compare apples to oranges to somehow support your nonsensical argument and then praise yourself for your non sequitur conclusion and supposed elitism. Congratulations on sounding like a douche.

Wake up on the wrong side of bed this morning? I don't see how it is apples to oranges.

Saying "this weekend" when it's not the weekend is the exact same as saying "this [anything]" when the anything isn't here and obvious. The only difference is that saying "this weekend" is in common usage so people know what you are talking about, even though it's completely illogical.

You don't see how it's apples to oranges because you're trying to force your illogical argument to make sense. Your examples of "this [anything]" because you wouldn't say "next [anything] in its place. That makes it an apples to oranges comparison.

reposting because you obviously didn't read it:

"Next rebuild I'm going to give Vista a try."

Am I talking about the next time I rebuild my computer, or am I talking about the time *after* the next time I rebuild my computer?

So why does "next weekend" follow different rules?


----


"This rebuild I'm going to give Vista a try."

"Oh, so you are rebuilding your PC now?"

"No, I mean this coming rebuild... uh when I decide to rebuild my computer next time.."

"So you mean your next rebuild"

"Yes"

Okay, so now you're using a verb as a noun, after complaining about not using, according to you, grammatically incorrect phrases. Well done.

Originally posted by: JujuFish
Do you even know the definition of "this"? Here, let me show you:

2: being the nearer at hand or more immediately under observation or discussion

So, you see, it is both idiomatically and grammatically correct to say "this weekend" when referring to the upcoming weekend. Now, let's look at the definition for next:

1 : in the time, place, or order nearest or immediately succeeding <next we drove home> <the next closest school>

As you can see here, it's again correct to use "next" when referring to the weekend after the upcoming weekend. You wouldn't say "next closest school" when referring to the closest one, now would you?

You are adding words to make your case, that is called a straw-man argument.

Of course I wouldn't say "next closest school" when referring to the closest one, I would say the "next school". Just like you don't say "next closest weekend", you say "next weekend". Except that common usage dictates that "next weekend" means the weekend after the next weekend.

[/quote]
I take it you didn't read the definitions at all, because you wouldn't even have to ask this question if you did. "In the time, place, or order nearest or immediately succeeding". Obviously next weekend is the weekend immediately succeeding this weekend. Reading comprehension, anyone?

 

[allies]

Originally posted by: ExPFC Wintergreen
People thinking "cliche" is an adjective: "That expression is so cliche."

And: "That didn't phase me."

Cliche

 

[Chiropteran]

wreckless driving

 

[Chiropteran]

Originally posted by: JujuFish
Okay, so now you're using a verb as a noun, after complaining about not using, according to you, grammatically incorrect phrases. Well done.

Please be more specific. Maybe I've lost my mind and I actually did use a verb as a noun. You show me.

 

[jonks]

low and behold