InBev purchases Anheuser-Bush

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freegeeks

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Originally posted by: vi edit
Originally posted by: freegeeks
all your base are belong to us b*tches :D

<- Belgian

All my taste buds are belong to your monks!

on a serious note, there will be cost cutting, the Inbev management is composed by the Brazilians of Ambev. They are notorious for cost cutting practices. We even had strikes in Belgian breweries because of the former Ambev management
 

imported_Lothar

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Originally posted by: freegeeks
Originally posted by: vi edit
Originally posted by: freegeeks
all your base are belong to us b*tches :D

<- Belgian

All my taste buds are belong to your monks!

on a serious note, there will be cost cutting, the Inbev management is composed by the Brazilians of Ambev. They are notorious for cost cutting practices. We even had strikes in Belgian breweries because of the former Ambev management

And your point is?

Personally, I don't see a problem with management cutting costs as long as it increases shareholder value.
Every single business that is publicly traded does this.
 

imported_Lothar

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Originally posted by: AntiFreze
Originally posted by: preslove
Originally posted by: spidey07
Originally posted by: Gooberlx2
From what I remember hearing on NPR, there were not any layoffs or Brewery closures planned as a result of this deal.

There never is. That's always the story - "this is for the best of both companies. We'll realize cost syndergies!"

That translates to - canning lots of people. That's how any takeover goes.

Inbev doesn't own a single fucking brewery in the United States. They have no reason to close any. In fact, they are more than likely going to start brewing their european brands here, and *gasp* might even have to expand the plants.

hmmm, that may be true, but InBev is actually famous for cutting costs. Lot's of local pubs in belgium decide not to sell anything of inbev. If you join Inbev, they decide which beer you may sell and which not and they take all the margins.

So they won't slow down production, but could lay off people if their efficiency analysts see that the production could be kept up with less people to pay.

And what business doesn't do that? :confused:
 

imported_Lothar

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Originally posted by: vi edit
Originally posted by: spidey07
Originally posted by: allisolm
Interesting to note the beers that Anheuser-Busch ALREADY imports and distributes:

Bass, Becks, Hoegaarden,Stella Artois, Kirin, Tiger, Grolsch, Lowenbrau, and others.

That's fine. The question is where to keep the profit.

We need to keep the profits IN AMERICA. Even with those being imported the profit stayed with an American company.

So I'm never going to buy bud again and unfortunately will have to strike all those beers (they look like a lot of inbev brands anyway) off the list as well. Sam Adams it is.

This thinking always kind of annoyed me. There's still thousands of US employees getting paid to make it and deliver it. There's still tens of thousands of bars, restaurants, and grocery stores, ect that make money off of selling it. And people in the US can still enjoy it. I guess I'd rather see it that way than say...having Ford still be "based" in America but have all manufacturing done in Mexico or elsewhere. I don't really care about the profits so much as the jobs that it produces. I couldn't give two shits about some middle management sitting in an office collecting $250,00k + stock options and a CEO making 10+ million and a golden parachute to jump with.

:thumbsup:

I simply never understand people here.
"I don't shop at Wal-Mart because of their business practices" when they're completely oblivious to the fact that every business does the exact same thing.

Globalization is here to stay.
Either put up, or shut up. Either compete or declare bankruptcy and get bought out.

I don't give a crap where a product is made. I don't care about the people working there or the jobs it produces.
If I like a product, I will buy it. Plain and simple, no strings attached.
If it's cheap(offers good value) compared to their competitors and tastes the same, I will buy it.

Telling me to be patriotic and only buy "American"(quoted because they're not truly American as people proclaim them to be*) made products is idiocy if I can get a better product on the market.

*Example: Ford
 

rbV5

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The last great american brewery is gone

Good riddance, there's plenty of great local brewers right here that produce beer you can actually enjoy drinking ;)
 

miketheidiot

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Originally posted by: Josh
Originally posted by: her209
Originally posted by: spidey07
Keep the profit at home, do not buy these products any more.
Did Anheuser-Bush buy "American" ingredients and use "American" labor to make their products?

Not sure but they sure as hell have a huuuuge fucking plant in Newark, NJ right by the airport and headquarters in St. Louis so they sure as hell have quite a few "American" laborers.

Now on to more important discussion - will Bud Light be cheaper?

probably not, but stella and other inbev beers likely will do to better distribution.
 

miketheidiot

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Originally posted by: spidey07
Originally posted by: allisolm
Interesting to note the beers that Anheuser-Busch ALREADY imports and distributes:

Bass, Becks, Hoegaarden,Stella Artois, Kirin, Tiger, Grolsch, Lowenbrau, and others.

That's fine. The question is where to keep the profit.

We need to keep the profits IN AMERICA. Even with those being imported the profit stayed with an American company.

So I'm never going to buy bud again and unfortunately will have to strike all those beers (they look like a lot of inbev brands anyway) off the list as well. Sam Adams it is.

you are stupid. You realize that where a company is based really isn't indicative of who owns it and receives the profit, right? The distribution of national ownership will probably change little, since both were massive international companies in the first place.
 

miketheidiot

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Originally posted by: AntiFreze
Originally posted by: preslove
Originally posted by: spidey07
Originally posted by: Gooberlx2
From what I remember hearing on NPR, there were not any layoffs or Brewery closures planned as a result of this deal.

There never is. That's always the story - "this is for the best of both companies. We'll realize cost syndergies!"

That translates to - canning lots of people. That's how any takeover goes.

Inbev doesn't own a single fucking brewery in the United States. They have no reason to close any. In fact, they are more than likely going to start brewing their european brands here, and *gasp* might even have to expand the plants.

hmmm, that may be true, but InBev is actually famous for cutting costs. Lot's of local pubs in belgium decide not to sell anything of inbev. If you join Inbev, they decide which beer you may sell and which not and they take all the margins.

So they won't slow down production, but could lay off people if their efficiency analysts see that the production could be kept up with less people to pay.

i think most businesses already try to do that.
 

spidey07

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Originally posted by: miketheidiot
Originally posted by: spidey07
Originally posted by: allisolm
Interesting to note the beers that Anheuser-Busch ALREADY imports and distributes:

Bass, Becks, Hoegaarden,Stella Artois, Kirin, Tiger, Grolsch, Lowenbrau, and others.

That's fine. The question is where to keep the profit.

We need to keep the profits IN AMERICA. Even with those being imported the profit stayed with an American company.

So I'm never going to buy bud again and unfortunately will have to strike all those beers (they look like a lot of inbev brands anyway) off the list as well. Sam Adams it is.

you are stupid. You realize that where a company is based really isn't indicative of who owns it and receives the profit, right? The distribution of national ownership will probably change little, since both were massive international companies in the first place.

I'm not stupid. I worked for a wine/spirit company for 7 years and know that consolidation is happening on a large scale in the beverage alcohol industry and has been for a while. I watched diageo gobble up producers and more conglomeration.

Call me stupid, I'm never ever buying AB or any inbev owned products again.
 

sjwaste

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Originally posted by: spidey07
Keep the profit at home, do not buy these products any more.

Sorry dude, but I'm going to need a 40 of Hurricane at some point...

I guess I could switch to Colt 45?
 

Joemonkey

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Originally posted by: spidey07
Originally posted by: miketheidiot
Originally posted by: spidey07
Originally posted by: allisolm
Interesting to note the beers that Anheuser-Busch ALREADY imports and distributes:

Bass, Becks, Hoegaarden,Stella Artois, Kirin, Tiger, Grolsch, Lowenbrau, and others.

That's fine. The question is where to keep the profit.

We need to keep the profits IN AMERICA. Even with those being imported the profit stayed with an American company.

So I'm never going to buy bud again and unfortunately will have to strike all those beers (they look like a lot of inbev brands anyway) off the list as well. Sam Adams it is.

you are stupid. You realize that where a company is based really isn't indicative of who owns it and receives the profit, right? The distribution of national ownership will probably change little, since both were massive international companies in the first place.

I'm not stupid. I worked for a wine/spirit company for 7 years and know that consolidation is happening on a large scale in the beverage alcohol industry and has been for a while. I watched diageo gobble up producers and more conglomeration.

Call me stupid, I'm never ever buying AB or any inbev owned products again.

hate to back up a backwoods hick from KY, but he's got a point. Profit of a company does not mean workers or jobs in that area
 

imported_Lothar

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This Bud Might Not Be for Them

ST. LOUIS -- Jordan Moore took the news that his beloved Budweiser could soon fall into foreign hands very personally: He decided he would scrap his plan to get the logo of the King of Beers tattooed on his right rib cage.

"I'll tell you one thing," said the 21-year-old concrete worker during his lunch break at The Brick of St. Louis bar, in the shadow of this city's storied Anheuser-Busch Cos. brewery, "if Budweiser is made by a different country, I don't drink Budweiser anymore. I'll go back to Wild Turkey."
(Wild Turkey, a Kentucky bourbon, is owned by French drinks giant Pernod Ricard SA.)

As news spread that Anheuser has entered friendly talks to possibly be acquired by InBev NV, of Belgium, a dark mood spread from the bars around the brewery to Missouri's congressional delegation to the St. Louis mayor's office and out to the rice farms in Missouri's boot-heel region.

At Johnny's Restaurant & Bar, where Anheuser-Busch products are the only ones sold and the patio is decorated with red AB umbrellas, painting contractor Randy Freese looked into his Bud glass and explained why this was a desolate day. "I don't like it at all," he said. "Anheuser-Busch does so much for this city. With InBev, that's going to go by the wayside."

InBev has said it is mindful of Anheuser's heritage and its major role in the St. Louis community. It has pledged to make Budweiser the flagship brand of the combined company, make St. Louis the company's North American headquarters and retain key executives from Anheuser. InBev Chief Executive Carlos Brito has met with government officials from Missouri in an effort to allay their concerns.

"Four-dollar gasoline is only slightly less popular than InBev in Missouri," said U.S. Sen. Christopher "Kit" Bond (R., Mo.) in an interview. He suggests a merger could mean too much beer-industry consolidation and that the Department of Justice antitrust division might challenge a deal on such grounds. But the antitrust division hasn't been particularly aggressive about mergers in the Bush administration, and InBev has a tiny U.S. presence, so this seems unlikely.

At the St. Louis mayor's office, mayoral chief of staff Jeff Rainford estimates there are 6,000 St. Louis-area workers at Anheuser. "We're not anticipating they will all lose their job," he said, "but clearly they will cut back." Still, he said, St. Louis's economy has become diversified and would take only a short-term hit.

Rice farmers who supply crops for Anheuser beer are worried, too. "We're concerned that decisions that were being made in St. Louis now will be made in Brussels," says Blake Hurst, vice president of Missouri's State Farm Bureau.

"I'm stunned. I'm in a state of shock," said historian Maureen Ogle, author of "Ambitious Brew," a history of the beer industry. In her view, family ownership is crucial to the hard-edged competitive spirit that will ensure the success of a brewing business. "This will effectively destroy Anheuser-Busch," she said. "When you remove the family, it just becomes another corporate brewer."'

She expects that if a deal emerges, budget slashers at InBev will cut corners and that "the beautiful prestigious headquarters in St. Louis will bear no resemblance to itself in a few years." She even expects the Bud recipe to get watered down for cost-cutting purposes, though some craft-brew drinkers insist it already was watered down a long time ago.

Back at Johnny's, the 56-year-old Mr. Freese has been a loyal Bud drinker since he was 21. So will he switch from Bud if the Belgian company buys the American brewer? Fat chance.

"I'm a Bud man, plain and simple," he said. "I don't like any other beer."


Johnny's manager Rudy Piskulick wistfully recalled Anheuser's charitable and neighborly deeds, such as helping fund the symphony, the fireworks celebration, Mardi Gras events and neighborhood movie nights. "Most everybody is bummed out," he said. "Unless they have a lot of stock."

http://online.wsj.com/article/...tml?mod=googlenews_wsj
 

KeithTalent

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Originally posted by: Lothar
"I'll tell you one thing," said the 21-year-old concrete worker during his lunch break at The Brick of St. Louis bar, in the shadow of this city's storied Anheuser-Busch Cos. brewery, "if Budweiser is made by a different country, I don't drink Budweiser anymore. I'll go back to Wild Turkey."[/b] (Wild Turkey, a Kentucky bourbon, is owned by French drinks giant Pernod Ricard SA.)

LMAO

People really need to get used to the fact that it's a global economy now and the majority of these larger companies, no matter what it is they are peddling, are either owned, partially-owned, or are at least doing some of their production in other countries. It's just the way business works now.

KT
 

imported_Lothar

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Originally posted by: KeithTalent
Originally posted by: Lothar
"I'll tell you one thing," said the 21-year-old concrete worker during his lunch break at The Brick of St. Louis bar, in the shadow of this city's storied Anheuser-Busch Cos. brewery, "if Budweiser is made by a different country, I don't drink Budweiser anymore. I'll go back to Wild Turkey."[/b] (Wild Turkey, a Kentucky bourbon, is owned by French drinks giant Pernod Ricard SA.)

LMAO

People really need to get used to the fact that it's a global economy now and the majority of these larger companies, no matter what it is they are peddling, are either owned, partially-owned, or are at least doing some of their production in other countries. It's just the way business works now.

KT

That guy sounds like spidey07 to me. :laugh:
I wonder if spidey07 plans to remove the tattoo from his rib cage yet or has he scrapped his plans to get one?
 

spidey07

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Originally posted by: Lothar
Originally posted by: KeithTalent
Originally posted by: Lothar
"I'll tell you one thing," said the 21-year-old concrete worker during his lunch break at The Brick of St. Louis bar, in the shadow of this city's storied Anheuser-Busch Cos. brewery, "if Budweiser is made by a different country, I don't drink Budweiser anymore. I'll go back to Wild Turkey."[/b] (Wild Turkey, a Kentucky bourbon, is owned by French drinks giant Pernod Ricard SA.)

LMAO

People really need to get used to the fact that it's a global economy now and the majority of these larger companies, no matter what it is they are peddling, are either owned, partially-owned, or are at least doing some of their production in other countries. It's just the way business works now.

KT

That guy sounds like spidey07 to me. :laugh:
I wonder if spidey07 plans to remove the tattoo from his rib cage yet or has he scrapped his plans to get one?

I'm doing my part in the economical war. What are you doing to support this great nation?
 

imported_Lothar

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Originally posted by: spidey07
Originally posted by: Lothar
Originally posted by: KeithTalent
Originally posted by: Lothar
"I'll tell you one thing," said the 21-year-old concrete worker during his lunch break at The Brick of St. Louis bar, in the shadow of this city's storied Anheuser-Busch Cos. brewery, "if Budweiser is made by a different country, I don't drink Budweiser anymore. I'll go back to Wild Turkey."[/b] (Wild Turkey, a Kentucky bourbon, is owned by French drinks giant Pernod Ricard SA.)

LMAO

People really need to get used to the fact that it's a global economy now and the majority of these larger companies, no matter what it is they are peddling, are either owned, partially-owned, or are at least doing some of their production in other countries. It's just the way business works now.

KT

That guy sounds like spidey07 to me. :laugh:
I wonder if spidey07 plans to remove the tattoo from his rib cage yet or has he scrapped his plans to get one?

I'm doing my part in the economical war. What are you doing to support this great nation?
Paying taxes.