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lukatmyshu

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Engineering .... what EXACTLY are we talking about.
If it's something like EE/CS then it has to be

CalTech
MIT
Berkeley/Stanford

I have no idea what it is for Civil Engineering, or Bio-Engineering or Chemical-Engineering.
I do know that the CS program at UC Berkeley was just rated #2 in the nation (not bad for a public university)
 
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Originally posted by: elanarchist
Cornell has the finest College of Engineering in the Ivy League.
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Cornell's also the easiest Ivy to get into and isnt all that good. I'm not bashing it because I didn't get in or nething, I chose Duke over it.
 
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Originally posted by: iispeedyii
school sux :p

its hard to say which one is the best, unless you attended a bunch of the engineering schools.
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exactly! but by popular opinion, outside of mit/ctech/berk/stanf, none of the other schools mentioned in here are that good
 
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Originally posted by: Carbonyl
Calpoly San Luis Obispo;)

Price/performance leader if you can get in.

They are #1 in areospace and are just as heavily recriuted as CalTech
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Hard to get into? Ok, I had pretty average grades in hs IMHO. Lots of APs tho. I applied to SLO and Pomona; Got into both. I ended up going to Cal Poly Pomona tho since I like LA. Anyway, don't leave Harvey-Mudd off of your list.
 
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If affordable is part of the equation for calculating "best", then certainly the University of Alaska, Fairbanks should be considered for engineering.

Beyond that, I think I've actually heard of the Colorado School of Mines which means it's probably has some prestige because I've never made a habit of noting which engineering schools are considered prestigious.
 
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ed21x

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Originally posted by: lukatmyshu
Engineering .... what EXACTLY are we talking about.
If it's something like EE/CS then it has to be

CalTech
MIT
Berkeley/Stanford

I have no idea what it is for Civil Engineering, or Bio-Engineering or Chemical-Engineering.
I do know that the CS program at UC Berkeley was just rated #2 in the nation (not bad for a public university)
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I still have no idea how the heck Caltech became first on your list. The Official rankings go: MIT, Stanford, Berkeley, Caltech from USnews. Among other things, most major developments and stuff you hear from the media are from MIT and Berkeley. The fact that Caltech had such a tiny student population and pretty sad living environment/location really put off alot of the students that got accepted there, but chose not to go in the end- or at least for me and one of my friends.

<- Berkeley EECS :)
 
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gopunk

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Originally posted by: Maetryx
If affordable is part of the equation for calculating "best", then certainly the University of Alaska, Fairbanks should be considered for engineering.

Beyond that, I think I've actually heard of the Colorado School of Mines which means it's probably has some prestige because I've never made a habit of noting which engineering schools are considered prestigious.
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i dunno university of washington is pretty cheap and it has good engineering.

as for the above post, i totally agree. MIT is number one... hands down. there's just a lot of haters out there because that's like the only school they got rejected from.
 
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Lifer
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Originally posted by: ed21x
Originally posted by: lukatmyshu
Engineering .... what EXACTLY are we talking about.
If it's something like EE/CS then it has to be

CalTech
MIT
Berkeley/Stanford

I have no idea what it is for Civil Engineering, or Bio-Engineering or Chemical-Engineering.
I do know that the CS program at UC Berkeley was just rated #2 in the nation (not bad for a public university)
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I still have no idea how the heck Caltech became first on your list. The Official rankings go: MIT, Stanford, Berkeley, Caltech from USnews. Among other things, most major developments and stuff you hear from the media are from MIT and Berkeley. The fact that Caltech had such a tiny student population and pretty sad living environment/location really put off alot of the students that got accepted there, but chose not to go in the end- or at least for me and one of my friends.

<- Berkeley EECS :)
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Dude, what's wrong with CalTech's location. Pasadena is a great place to live. Granted, the dorms kinda suck from what my friends tell me (they visited but ended up elsewhere, MIT & Berkeley) but the people I know who did go there loved it. Its a hell of a lot better then Pomona where I goto school. Course, I live 3 miles from the beach so what do I care:)
 
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Woody06

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MIT is actually quite affordable if your family doesnt make a whole lot. They cover anything over expected family contribution + 5600 with scholarships, and the 5600 they work out with student work and loans.
 
Zebo

Zebo

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Originally posted by: NutBucket
Originally posted by: Carbonyl
Calpoly San Luis Obispo;)

Price/performance leader if you can get in.

They are #1 in areospace and are just as heavily recriuted as CalTech
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Hard to get into? Ok, I had pretty average grades in hs IMHO. Lots of APs tho. I ended up going to Cal Poly Pomona tho since I like LA. Anyway, don't leave Harvey-Mudd off of your list.
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Totally different school. First off you have to declare major when applying unlike your school no playing around decideing what you want to be surfing though as undeclarded.. Second we get waaaay more applicants. We had over 1200 for the CS program and accepted 90 recentlly. In Materials Science we had 700 apps and accepted 50. I don't know the other programs but I can gurantee they are very competitve. Thrirdly we are the most heavily recruited calstate school right there with caltech and berkely for only $800 per quarter now I think.

Look at the USnews and world report rankings and compare CPSLO vs. CPP

 
NutBucket

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Lifer
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Originally posted by: Carbonyl
Originally posted by: NutBucket
Originally posted by: Carbonyl
Calpoly San Luis Obispo;)

Price/performance leader if you can get in.

They are #1 in areospace and are just as heavily recriuted as CalTech
Click to expand...

Hard to get into? Ok, I had pretty average grades in hs IMHO. Lots of APs tho. I ended up going to Cal Poly Pomona tho since I like LA. Anyway, don't leave Harvey-Mudd off of your list.
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Totally different school. First off you have to declare major when applying unlike your school no playing around decideing what you want to be surfing though as undeclarded.. Second we get waaaay more applicants. We had over 1200 for the CS program and accepted 90 recentlly. In Materials Science we had 700 apps and accepted 50. I don't know the other programs but I can gurantee they are very competitve. Thrirdly we are the most heavily recruited calstate school right there with caltech and berkely for only $800 per quarter now I think.

Look at the USnews and world report rankings and compare CPSLO vs. CPP
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You misread, I got into both. The only two schools I even applied to. I applied to both schools as EE.
 
Zebo

Zebo

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Originally posted by: NutBucket
Originally posted by: Carbonyl
Originally posted by: NutBucket
Originally posted by: Carbonyl
Calpoly San Luis Obispo;)

Price/performance leader if you can get in.

They are #1 in areospace and are just as heavily recriuted as CalTech
Click to expand...

Hard to get into? Ok, I had pretty average grades in hs IMHO. Lots of APs tho. I ended up going to Cal Poly Pomona tho since I like LA. Anyway, don't leave Harvey-Mudd off of your list.
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Totally different school. First off you have to declare major when applying unlike your school no playing around decideing what you want to be surfing though as undeclarded.. Second we get waaaay more applicants. We had over 1200 for the CS program and accepted 90 recentlly. In Materials Science we had 700 apps and accepted 50. I don't know the other programs but I can gurantee they are very competitve. Thrirdly we are the most heavily recruited calstate school right there with caltech and berkely for only $800 per quarter now I think.

Look at the USnews and world report rankings and compare CPSLO vs. CPP
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You misread, I got into both. The only two schools I even applied to. I applied to both schools as EE.
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I did'nt misread you were unclear.

BTW- EE is the easiest engineering to get into but the hardest to get out of at any school.:)
 
NutBucket

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I had no idea EE was the easiest to get into. Whatever, I like it:)

EDIT: Gonna go change that post to make it clear.
 
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SUBxWRX

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BioEngineering =========> UCSD........Correct if I'm wrong, UCSD has the best bioE grad program and one of the best undergrad programs.
 
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KenGr

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This is real tough to be objective on because there are some many criteria that could be used.

Based on Cutting Edge Engineering work normalized to school size:

1. MIT
2. Cal Poly
3. Stanford

Based on overall effect on the Engineering profession:

1. MIT
2. University of Illinois
3. Stanford

Other schools that very significant: Michigan, Purdue

For schools that are not private the Big 10 wins hands down. There isn't a bad school there and 5 or 6 of the Engineering schools rank in the top 20.

Sadly, Georgia Tech is the only school in the southeast I would even put in the top 20. It doesn't make my top 10.

I'm not sure where you Berkely guys are coming from. If it wasn't for the association with Livermore Labs, it wouldn't be on the map.
 
ed21x

ed21x

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Originally posted by: KenGr
This is real tough to be objective on because there are some many criteria that could be used.

Based on Cutting Edge Engineering work normalized to school size:

1. MIT
2. Cal Poly
3. Stanford

Based on overall effect on the Engineering profession:

1. MIT
2. University of Illinois
3. Stanford

Other schools that very significant: Michigan, Purdue

For schools that are not private the Big 10 wins hands down. There isn't a bad school there and 5 or 6 of the Engineering schools rank in the top 20.

Sadly, Georgia Tech is the only school in the southeast I would even put in the top 20. It doesn't make my top 10.

I'm not sure where you Berkely guys are coming from. If it wasn't for the association with Livermore Labs, it wouldn't be on the map.
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A school is best judged by the quality of their student body:
Berkeley EECS acceptance rate: 10%
Stanford: ~10%
University of Illinois Urbana Champaign: 60%
Cal Poly- SLO: ~20%

and as I have mentioned before, usnews continues to put MIT, Stanford, and Berkeley as the top three schools in the nation. And yes, we do send alot of our undergrad research and grad interns to the labs at Livermore where its pretty much 50/50 funded by Berkeley and the government- but do you really think that is the only reason why berkeley is so good?
 
Zebo

Zebo

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Originally posted by: ed21x
Originally posted by: KenGr
This is real tough to be objective on because there are some many criteria that could be used.

Based on Cutting Edge Engineering work normalized to school size:

1. MIT
2. Cal Poly
3. Stanford

Based on overall effect on the Engineering profession:

1. MIT
2. University of Illinois
3. Stanford

Other schools that very significant: Michigan, Purdue

For schools that are not private the Big 10 wins hands down. There isn't a bad school there and 5 or 6 of the Engineering schools rank in the top 20.

Sadly, Georgia Tech is the only school in the southeast I would even put in the top 20. It doesn't make my top 10.

I'm not sure where you Berkely guys are coming from. If it wasn't for the association with Livermore Labs, it wouldn't be on the map.
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A school is best judged by the quality of their student body:
Berkeley EECS acceptance rate: 10%
Stanford: ~10%
University of Illinois Urbana Champaign: 60%
Cal Poly- SLO: ~20%

and as I have mentioned before, usnews continues to put MIT, Stanford, and Berkeley as the top three schools in the nation. And yes, we do send alot of our undergrad research and grad interns to the labs at Livermore where its pretty much 50/50 funded by Berkeley and the government- but do you really think that is the only reason why berkeley is so good?
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You know it's sad CPSLO is excluded from the overall ranking since they only grant up to a masters. All these others are scored with each other because they are PhD granting. Oh well I like your method too.

As my old Calc II prof used to say "the teachers who fail the most students are the best ones" or something like that. He was from India and took no crap from lazy americans:)
 
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