In the USA do people still run around with a confederate flag?

[tm37]

Originally posted by: AlienCraft

Originally posted by: byosys
Sometimes I wonder why the north fought to keep the south in the union to begin with....


(I kid, I kid)

Because the cotton, corn, rice, cattle, horses and hogs that were grown and raised down there fed and clothed them.

And because there were alot more people in the the north they could vote to raise taxes on those items to raise revenue for all kinds of unconstitutional publics works projects!

 

[imported_sling]

Originally posted by: kogase

Originally posted by: Excelsior

Originally posted by: YoshiSato
Them traitors who wave the confederate flag should be shot for what they are.

TRAITORS!. You LOST THE WAR, GET OVER IT.









BTW do you know the nazi flag has been outlawed in Germany.

For good reason. The Germans are not proud of their past.

However, you must understand there is a difference between trying to take over the free world and in the process systematically killing millions of people and the south pre-1865.

I'll admit there was a small difference, the only thing the South didn't do was kill them, they did everything else the Nazis did to the Jews though, that's for sure.

So did the north. It's not like the civil war broke out in the US because the nothern states woke up one morning and though "You know, this slavery thing is F'd up!" Nope that didn't even come CLOSE to happening. The north wasn't any better to their slaves.

Abe Lincoln in 1862: "My paramount object in this struggle is to save the Union, and it is not either to save or destroy slavery."


EDIT: Abe wasn't around in 1962 I don't think.

 

[classy]

Originally posted by: Mail5398
I put one on my car so it would be like the General Lee.

:thumbsup:

General Lee still rules 🙂

 

[potato28]

The Duke's do... 😀😛

 

[ribbon13]

Originally posted by: GalvanizedYankee
http://logicalthinker.tripod.com/blackwall1.html

...GalvanizedYankee

Careful of repeating things that spout bullshit on page 3

 

[thehstrybean]

I live in the south. Yes, they do. Not everyone does, though...

 

[Linflas]

Originally posted by: FoBoT
if this thread is still active on monday i am going to buy a confederate flag and put it in my car window

Ok lets resume the discussion so FoBoT can get his sticker and put it in his car window. 😀 There are still people living around here that fly it on a flagpole along with the US flag.

 

[Schadenfroh]

How to stop people from carrying around Confederate flags:

http://forums.anandtech.com/messageview...atid=38&threadid=1855442&enterthread=y

 

[FoBoT]

butthead

i'll stop at the truckstop on the way home tonight, i guarantee i can pickup a confederate flag bumpersticker there


😛

 

[Linflas]

Originally posted by: FoBoT
butthead

i'll stop at the truckstop on the way home tonight, i guarantee i can pickup a confederate flag bumpersticker there


😛

Ahh but can you get one of the ones with the grizzled guy in a CSA uniform carrying the flag with "Hell no I won't forget!" on it?

 

[SP33Demon]

Originally posted by: audi111688
the confederate flag is a symbol of states rights. sure, it has become a kind of stereotypical ignorant, redneck, racist thing because of what is portrayed of people who live in "the south". and sure, most of the people who fly it may very well be ignorant, racist, rednecks...but that gives no right to call it anti-american, or that it needs to be banned. the people who fly this "anti-american" flag are some of the most patriotic men and women you will find in this country. i think that maybe it is just a pride thing since the people down here are so looked down upon.

and about it being racist. i have seen the confederate flag in the black community more than in the white community where i live (central louisiana). this seconds my opinion of it being just a pride thing. there is a lil john video in which he has the confederate flag many times. rap cd's have the confederate flag on the cover.

the war wasnt about slavery, it was about the southern states wanting to leave the union because other states did not agree with the things they were doing. yeah, slavery has to be one of the most in-humane things around, but these states wanted that, and if they wanted to leave the union, they should have been able to.

so the flag itself stands for nothing more than rights, pride, and heritage. say what you want about the people that fly it, but dont make extreme claims such as that its anti-american, or that it should be banned.

Nice post for your first. I agree, the flag stands for Southern pride/heritage/rights. It has nothing to do with slavery or racism, uneducated people have promoted this stereotype.

 

[ScrapSilicon]

Originally posted by: tm37

Originally posted by: AlienCraft

Originally posted by: byosys
Sometimes I wonder why the north fought to keep the south in the union to begin with....


(I kid, I kid)

Because the cotton, corn, rice, cattle, horses and hogs that were grown and raised down there fed and clothed them.

And because there were alot more people in the the north they could vote to raise taxes on those items to raise revenue for all kinds of unconstitutional publics works projects!

I think they were looking towards the future where everyone up north heads south when they retire..😀 Canucks being an exception of course 😛

 

[skace]

What is southern pride? Proud to be American but only from the southern half? Proud to be a little lower than another state? Ever heard of northern pride?

There is still a problem there, but people can choose to ignore it.

As far as state flags go. WTF is going on here: http://www.50states.com/flag/mdflag.htm

 

[Abel007]

Southern pride is how we treat each other, how friendly we are, how our food tastes, how our tea has sugar, eating at the Waffle House @ 3 AM, how we hold onto values such as family, religion, etc..(not saying other parts of the country don't do this as well, just we do it a different way I think)

I fail to see the problem in any of the above. If you've never really lived in the South I wouldn't expect you to understand, and I don't mean visit for a week or two. Living in the South is the greatest! I've lived in several parts of the country and nothing can compare...

 

[skace]

Originally posted by: Abel007
Southern pride is how we treat each other, how friendly we are, how our food tastes, how our tea has sugar, eating at the Waffle House @ 3 AM, how we hold onto values such as family, religion, etc..(not saying other parts of the country don't do this as well, just we do it a different way I think)

In other words, ways to specifically segregate or differentiate yourselves from the North.

 

[SP33Demon]

Originally posted by: skace
What is southern pride? Proud to be American but only from the southern half? Proud to be a little lower than another state? Ever heard of northern pride?

There is still a problem there, but people can choose to ignore it.

As far as state flags go. WTF is going on here: http://www.50states.com/flag/mdflag.htm

Yeah it's pretty ugly. Some banks down here use it as a logo, hell you even seen it flying at Raven/Oriole games!

Southern pride is the way of the South. Which hasn't changed all that much since the Civil War (mannerisms, language, food, etc). There's nothing wrong with that, just like someone saying they're proud to be a "Yankee".

 

[Linflas]

Originally posted by: SP33Demon

Originally posted by: skace
What is southern pride? Proud to be American but only from the southern half? Proud to be a little lower than another state? Ever heard of northern pride?

There is still a problem there, but people can choose to ignore it.

As far as state flags go. WTF is going on here: http://www.50states.com/flag/mdflag.htm

Yeah it's pretty ugly. Some banks down here use it as a logo, hell you even seen it flying at Raven/Oriole games!

Southern pride is the way of the South. Which hasn't changed all that much since the Civil War (mannerisms, language, food, etc). There's nothing wrong with that, just like someone saying they're proud to be a "Yankee".

As much as I dislike the Peoples Republic of Maryland I think their flag is pretty cool. It is instantly recognizable to anyone from this area.

 

[Abel007]

Originally posted by: skace

Originally posted by: Abel007
Southern pride is how we treat each other, how friendly we are, how our food tastes, how our tea has sugar, eating at the Waffle House @ 3 AM, how we hold onto values such as family, religion, etc..(not saying other parts of the country don't do this as well, just we do it a different way I think)

In other words, ways to specifically segregate or differentiate yourselves from the North.

Has nothing to do with segregation. There are many areas of the country that have different ways of doing things such as cooking, greetings, etc...

 

[Schadenfroh]

Originally posted by: skace

Originally posted by: Abel007
Southern pride is how we treat each other, how friendly we are, how our food tastes, how our tea has sugar, eating at the Waffle House @ 3 AM, how we hold onto values such as family, religion, etc..(not saying other parts of the country don't do this as well, just we do it a different way I think)

In other words, ways to specifically segregate or differentiate yourselves from the North.

Like how some northern writers classify "southern whites" into a different category than "whites" when comparing them to minority statistics in the US?

I have seen this in textbooks.

 

[Babbles]

Originally posted by: skace

Originally posted by: Abel007
Southern pride is how we treat each other, how friendly we are, how our food tastes, how our tea has sugar, eating at the Waffle House @ 3 AM, how we hold onto values such as family, religion, etc..(not saying other parts of the country don't do this as well, just we do it a different way I think)

In other words, ways to specifically segregate or differentiate yourselves from the North.

😕

People are differentiated all over the country, hell even within one state there are certain things that may be done differently than other portions of this state. This isn't necessarily a bad thing; it's called diversity.
Unless, heaven forbid, you want everybody to act the same.

 

[skace]

Originally posted by: Schadenfroh
Like how some northern writers classify "southern whites" into a different category than "whites" when comparing them to minority statistics in the US?

I have seen this in textbooks.

So do 2 wrongs make a right? And I havn't seen this, but I'm not going to argue that.

Originally posted by: Abel007
Has nothing to do with segregation. There are many areas of the country that have different ways of doing things such as cooking, greetings, etc...

Well I can tell you it has nothing to do with north and south either. People greet and cook all sorts of different ways everywhere. 2 southern states will not necessarily cook the same or even any different than a northern state. Hell, 2 neighbors won't necessarily cook something the same way.

 

[ballmode]

People who had them on their cars were let go from work, although they were given warning. They griped but at the same time they acted like it was a freedom of expression. The company said that the expression is not in relation to what the company wants that the flag brings the message upon. Flag was taken down and worker was able to keep job.

 

[skace]

Originally posted by: Babbles
😕

People are differentiated all over the country, hell even within one state there are certain things that may be done differently than other portions of this state. This isn't necessarily a bad thing; it's called diversity.
Unless, heaven forbid, you want everybody to act the same.

That was my point, people are different everywhere. So why the boundary between north and south? Why the southern pride excuse?

 

[kalrith]

There were some people at my college (in Missouri) who hung the confederate flag in their room. One of the guys was from Texas (I have nothing against Texas BTW), and he said that if Texas seceded from the union it would be the 7th greatest nation in the world. That's the kind of people who wave the confederate flag (or at least that's all that I've met).

 

[tm37]

Originally posted by: skace

Originally posted by: Babbles
😕

People are differentiated all over the country, hell even within one state there are certain things that may be done differently than other portions of this state. This isn't necessarily a bad thing; it's called diversity.
Unless, heaven forbid, you want everybody to act the same.

That was my point, people are different everywhere. So why the boundary between north and south? Why the southern pride excuse?

Excuse for what.
Are you are opposed to flags in General?

I am A verteran should I be allowed to fly my MIA-KIA flag or My Navy flag.

I think for many the Reble flag and "southern pride" is a freedom thing where you, not the government, decide how to run your life. Many people (myself included) believe that the Federal government has become far too involved in our lives and the southern states rebeled because of it (although they lost)