In the U.S.Army.What is the best things to go into?

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burnedout

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Do not enlist to be a cook.

You work crazy hours, and on weekends/holidays when everybody else is off.

Here are my picks. I served 20 years, so I should know:

If you are one of the following types:

Adventure/athletic/want to get in shape: 11B Infantryman. Get the Airborne option. If you really want to be hardcore, volunteer for Ranger and SF. There is nothing like it. I went to all kinds of schools back in the day. Recondo, Airborne, Air Assault, Sniper, Anti-Armor, JOTC. Espirit de corp and teamwork is the theme here. You learn lot's of intangibles that prepare you to take civilian life by the b@lls and kick it in the ass.

Adventurous, but would rather ride than walk: Either 19K (Armor Crewman), 11M (Bradley Fighting Vehicle Crewman) or 19D(Cavalry Scout). Tanks and mech infantry. The firepower is enormous. Great comaraderie, teamwork.

Technical and want a good civilian job when finished with the service: Intelligence, Linguist, Electronic Maintenance and Calibration. Lot's of companies recruit these guys. Even in a depressed job market.

Many jobs have bonus programs. Go to the website and check it out. www.goarmy.com. PM me if you want the straight scoop. Talk to as many vets as you can.

 

Helpless

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>IMHO-worse job, paper pusher...why pick a job you could do anywhere? *just my opinion*<


I, too, used to think like that; but after 10-years in the Army, I now think the opposite...not much of a demand in the marketplace for people who drive tanks, spot for mortars, etc, etc...I jumped out of airplanes and fixed tactical radios, so I guess I could always go into the electronics field, but many MOS's don't have a civilian equivalent...so while you may have fun, should you decide to get out, you lack any sort or marketable skill.


I have no complaints about the military, but boy did I see it change?the benefits are going out the window, less money on education/tuition assistance?they are lowering the standards to get more recruits?the ?do more with less? premise sucks?the ?kinder, gentler Army? is not what the armed forces should be focusing on, in my opinion.
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TRUMPHENT

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If you intend to be a career soldier, then its the infantry. You will never get to be Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff coming from any other branch. If you are going to be short term, then go for a technical specialty like communications. The Army has way cool satellite stuff.
 

glenn1

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This one's for Warcleric, my former Ranger bud...

Ranger vs Special Forces Organizations

The Chief of Staff of the Army asked his Sergeant Major, who was both Ranger and Special Forces qualified, which organization he would recommend to form a new anti-terrorist unit.

The Sergeant Major responded to the General's question with this parable: If there were a hijacked US Airways 747 being held by terrorists along with its passengers and crew and an anti-terrorist unit formed either by the Rangers or the Special Forces was given a Rescue/Recovery Mission; what would you expect to happen?

Ranger Option

Forces/Equipment Committed: If the Rangers went in, they would send a Ranger company of 120 men with standard army issue equipment.

Mission Preparation: The Ranger Company First Sergeant would conduct a Hair Cut and boots inspection.

Infiltration Technique: They would insist on double timing, in company formation, wearing their combat equipment, and singing Jody cadence all the way to the site of the hijacked aircraft.

Actions in the Objective Area: Once they arrived, the Ranger company would establish their ORP, put out security elements, conduct a leaders recon, reapply their face cammo, and conduct final preparations for Actions on the OBJ.

Results of Operation: The Rescue/Recovery Operation would be completed within one hour; all of the terrorists and most of the passengers would have been killed, the Rangers would have sustained light casualties and the DELTA 747 probably would be worthless to anyone except a scrap dealer.

Special Forces Option

Forces/Equipment Committed: If Special Forces went in, they would send only a 12 man team (all SF units are divisible by 12 for some arcane historical reason) however, due to the exotic nature of their equipment the SF Team would cost the same amount to deploy as the Ranger Company.

Mission Preparation: The SF Team Sergeant would request relaxed grooming standards for the team.

Infiltration Technique: The team would insist on separate travel orders with Max Per Diem, and each would get to the site of the hijacking by his own means. At least one third of the team would insist on jumping in.

Actions in the Objective Area: Once they arrived , the SF Team would cache their military uniforms, establish a Team Room, use their illegal Team Fund to stock the unauthorized Team Room Bar, check out the situation by talking to the locals, and have a Team Meeting to discuss the merits of the terrorists' cause.

Results of Operation: The Rescue/Recovery Operation would take two weeks to complete and by that time all of the terrorists would have been killed, (and would have left signed confessions); most of the passengers would be ruined psychologically for the remainder of their lives; and all of the women passengers would be pregnant. The DELTA 747 would be essentially unharmed, the team would have taken no casualties but would have used up, lost or stolen all the &quot;high speed&quot; equipment issued to them.


 

jemcam

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I served 14 years in Artillery units. My advice as an Enlisted man, and as an Officer? (I was both, enlisted originally, then went to OCS to become an Officer) If you go into any type of combat arms unit, (Artillery, Armor, Infantry, Engineer, Air Defense, etc.) you'll spending lots of time in the field. If you like that, great, but it sucks when you're married w/kids. You just don't get to see much of them.

I always thought the Medics had a sweet job. They really didn't have to do much except be there in case someone got hurt, give shots occasionally, and give classes occasionally. The ambulances had AC, so when we were in the field, they were the only ones that got a comfortable night's sleep. Everyone else had to sleep on the ground or in tents. Yes, even me as the Commander slept in the back of a hot mosquito infested Humvee.

If you're not interested in going to the field a lot, check out the Air Force or Navy. You can be a Medic there, (plus the Army school in FT. Hood, TX has lots of chicks in the school. I don't have to tell you that it's poon city when you're in AIT.) The Air Force has the best quarters, food, and even morale I think. Their PT (Physical Fitness) standards are much lower. If you want to get in shape, go to the Army. If you don't, go Navy or Air Force.

*EDIT* BTW, it's an excellent civilian career choice as a paramedic/EMT. Lot of guys with this MOS do it after the service. Also, look at the National Guard, they offer the exact same training in the exact classrooms and locations. Only you get to go home when your training is done. Don't look at the Reserves, they don't get as much money (unit level) so their equipment and training sucks. Also, no combat arms Reserve units, at least none that I heard of.
 

Helpless

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&quot;If you're not interested in going to the field a lot, check out the Air Force or Navy&quot;


I would rather do 6-months in the &quot;box,&quot; than 6-months out to sea with my name on my a$$ :) ...and you are not joking about PT and Fort Hood...I used to carry $2 in my socks, as we used to run so far, half the unit would &quot;fall out&quot; by the time we rounded the 2AD tower...I would run around the formation, all hardcore like, and when I hit the back of the company, would round the corner and go grab a cab :)
 

burnedout

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You can be a Medic there, (plus the Army school in FT. Hood, TX has lots of chicks in the school.

jemcam, you've been out too long. ;) It's at Fort Sam Houston in San Antonio, TX.

And yes, it's a good MOS to get into. Anything medical is normally a good option also.

 

jemcam

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I stand corrected. I knew the Medical Corp was in TX. I later remembered that Ft. Hood is home of the Air Defense Artillery. I am correct on that one, right?

My home base was Ft. Sill, OK. Home of the King of Battle, the mighty artillery!